moonshine420
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Yo BBC i thiink u need to go read up and do some research, maybe right down what Conciliator said for future reference because he clearly knos what he is talking about...
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
HCG thereapy decreased Teste Size
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LISTEN UP YOU FUCKING IDIOT....!! I am not sure what SHITHOLE you crawled out of, but ya might want to listen up. You are borderline following in AS-REPs steps. Hell for that matter, you sound like a parrot of a parrot. Hello again AS Rep.... Anyway, where as Concilliator may be putting out some info that presents in a more technical manner, he is also heavily pushing some philosophies that I happen to strongly disagree with. Read between my lines when you got a hair between your legs some day, Now the information I was attempting to convey may have been a bit ill prepared, the data is/was based on actual researdh of fact, just only glimmering is the rear of my mind. Excuse me, some of actually have go to wark and dont sit around playing with our computers all day. The BOTTOM LINE is that I was presenting a very different take on the pricipal of PCT or AKA Kill yourself even faster. If you read up you will find out just how bed these SERMS are for your body and PROSTATE for that matter. For that matter, Some of these same guys (especially the ones that believe in PCT) actually do DNP. Now if you research that one, it does not take a rocket scientist to find out that this stuff is essentially RAT POISON!! Seriously!! So, take you info with a grain of salt, and consider exactly who you are talking to before you take advice. this is a sounding board, NOT YOUR FREAKING DOCS OFFICE!!!, Idiots..It is funny the hippocritical world we live in. Close to Roman times and close to burning out.... I do not believe in this new concept of "PCT". You know, I have not even read William Llewellyn's book yet, but i'll bet that somewhere in there between the lines it reads "Suck it up hippocritical pussy, and just go year round like you do anyway!!!!!". I guarantee you, 70mgs of test a week is a lot healthier than a fucking Run of Nolva. AND What these fuckers around here WONT TELL YOU, is that they are NEVER off, because once you have juiced a couple of years past the age of 30, YOU WILL NEVER BE ON LINE AGAIN. You think that sounds like a poor idea. Try looking at it like this. Past the age of 30, you can either "live" of die. Before the age of thirty, it is questionable as to whether or not you are a moron, or a complete moron for juicing, outside some testing results low. NOW EAT ME BITCHES......! DAYAMMMM!!
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Further (while i'm Ranting)... Did Concilliator tell you will put on 5-10 pounds of water the first week regardless. THIS IS NOT A GAIN... You will loose this weight the first few weeks off. So plan on it, and dont come back around here reporting that you lost 10lbs, and it happened cause you didn't pct correctly. BETTER YET Did Concilliator forget to mention the fact the steroid use BUILDS ABSOLUTELY NO NEW MUSCLE. You are only temporarily changing to potency and ability of a set of muscles already in place. AND just like the body has a weight "set point" as frequently discussed in dieting these days, that also happens to apply to muscle groups. So you can achieve long term size increases from YEARS of working out. BUT YEARS to train your body to hold it there. Further, ever see some of those ex atheletes that used their legs alot. Did you ever notice that they can be some of the BIGGEST FAT ASSESS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! THIS IS because they trained their bodies to hold certain amounts fo weight there. It just so happens that muscle is only 1/3 the size of fat, so you better keep on pumpin!! Before you are some washed up idiot too. PUMPHEAD!!
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I'm not "pushing philosophies" BBC3. I'm describing realities. If Nolva is the more purely anti-estrogenic SERM at the HPTA, then it's going to restore natural testosterone production better than Clomid, regardless of the situation. Your "philosophy" of cutting calories, dieting, and reducing the weights you're lifting, all when you start PCT, is a terrible idea.
Information that you can't reference, "just only glimmering in the rear of your mind," is completely worthless. You'd be better off saying nothing than claiming there are references for something and failing to provide them. Personally, I think your data is/was based on your imagination, or what some bro told you. I don't think there's any actual research out there showing anything like what you claim. Please, prove me wrong with a link to Pubmed.
If you read up? WHERE? We already asked you for references. I spent some time reading up and found that they actually prescribe nolva to those who have prostate cancer. If you want to contend that SERMS are terrible for you and your prostate, then back it up with a reference. If you can't do that, then don't waste people's time with unsubstantiated claims that Nolva is the devil.
DNP is not used as rat poison. Seriously. Taking DNP in therapeutic doses is nothing like taking rat poison. It is true that DNP is classified as a "metabolic poison," because of the way it interferes with energy production, but that's precisely the effect people take it for. As toxicologists say, "the dose makes the poison."
I think it's pretty clear that you're an uneducated fool. You do not believe in the concept of PCT? What... do you think estrogenic negative-feedback at the hypothalamus is make-believe? SERMS undoubetedly aid in recovery. They've clearly been shown to enhance exogenous testosterone output . hCG also clearly aids in recovery, and prevents the kind of shut down that you think inevitably leads to all 30+ men being "off line" for life. You painted yourself as ignorant, confused, and illogical.
I think you just dug yourself to the bottom of the hole. Steroids don't build muscle? That's exactly what they do. Androgens bind to androgen receptors, the comlpex moves to the nucleus, and the hormone response element then activates transcription of genes that leads to the synthesis of actin and myosin, the two major contractile proteins in muscle. Anabolic steroids unequivocally lead to an increase in muscle mass. You've got to be kidding if you think they only "temporarily change the potency and ability of the muscle," whatever the hell that's supposed to mean, lol. Geez.
It is YOU who now needs to get a grip on yourself now... STEROIDS DO NOT CREATE NEW MUSCLES.. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and by the way, In case you have not heard a f'n thing I have said, I dont believe in PCT... Idiot.
Guys, please take a long look at his avatar. Just because he stole a picture of Arnold,,, no where near makes him arnold. Looks can be deceiving. Or are we not learning that lesson here YET????
FYI I did not say that DNP is "used as" rat poison. I said it IS. Very slight variance of moleculer structure, or portion thereof... Believe what you want, go ahead and shoot your self in the foot to create NOTHING IN THE END. IT is clear that Conciliator hears ONLY WHAT HE WANTS TO Hear....
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Further, A test of CONTEXT will always reviel underlying essence..
