HCG with HRT?

[solo47]

This has been discussed before, but I thought I'd bring it up once again to see if anything has changed. Regular HCG is a very good idea on cycle, and it's best taken during the cycle to make "recovery" easier. Others are fine with doing megadoses post-cycle before beginning actual PCT.

My questions are these:

1. Do many of you older guys who are now on HRT find using HCG helpful, or is it unnecessary?
2. When you go on a blast (a "cycle") beyond the HRT, do you then find HCG helpful, or is it still unnecessary?

All opinions welcome but experienced or knowledgeable thoughts especially welcome.

Solo

 

[TheBeat]

It's unnecessary to run hcg, but that being said- I do personally find a feeling of wellbeing while on it- might be the small estrogen increase, the hcg itself or the larger hanging balls lol. I've ran it all year and for 6-8 weeks periods and find I prefer to come off for awhile and hit it up again if I start feeling "suppressed" (sex drive lowered, mood, balls hugging tight, etc). This year I'm planning on 8 weeks on, 5 weeks off. I find 700-1200 IU per week ideal with the standard 250iu twice a week not being enough (a study showed 250iu eod bringing to 83% of normal production of testosterone and 500iu eod bringing to 133% if irc if it matters for how/why we run it)

 

[Big_paul]

If testicular atrophy is a concern use it.

 

[Burrr]

It's supposed to help with other stuff too, like lipids, libido and elections.

I use 250 iu a week yeat round

 

[bigrobbie]

Any

This has been discussed before, but I thought I'd bring it up once again to see if anything has changed. Regular HCG is a very good idea on cycle, and it's best taken during the cycle to make "recovery" easier. Others are fine with doing megadoses post-cycle before beginning actual PCT.

My questions are these:

1. Do many of you older guys who are now on HRT find using HCG helpful, or is it unnecessary?
2. When you go on a blast (a "cycle") beyond the HRT, do you then find HCG helpful, or is it still unnecessary?

All opinions welcome but experienced or knowledgeable thoughts especially welcome.

Solo

Any exogenous testosterone administration suppresses LH. IMO, hcg, when administered properly is important. Many disagree.

 

[jJjburton]

It's supposed to help with other stuff too, like lipids, libido and elections.

I use 250 iu a week yeat round

Weird if it helps with elections...THEN WHAT HAPPENED!!!!

 

[solo47]

Elections need some help, no doubt.

In my case, I no longer have any LH or FSH to speak of, so no worries about suppressing them. I used to run 500 iu 2x EW or sometimes more. I liked the "feeling" too. But the stuff is expensive, so I was considering skipping it for a blast, or at least for five weeks.

Solo

 

[Burrr]

The ovitrelle is spendy, but plain old Chinese hcg is pretty cheap

 

[ddp7]

This has been discussed before, but I thought I'd bring it up once again to see if anything has changed. Regular HCG is a very good idea on cycle, and it's best taken during the cycle to make "recovery" easier. Others are fine with doing megadoses post-cycle before beginning actual PCT.

My questions are these:

1. Do many of you older guys who are now on HRT find using HCG helpful, or is it unnecessary?
2. When you go on a blast (a "cycle") beyond the HRT, do you then find HCG helpful, or is it still unnecessary?

All opinions welcome but experienced or knowledgeable thoughts especially welcome.

Solo

Hey Solo you are one of my Meso idols,nice to see/read ya again brother

 

[solo47]

Hey Solo you are one of my Meso idols,nice to see/read ya again brother

Thanks, ddp7. Don't see many guys from a few years ago around (except for Dr. Jim, of course). Nice to see you're still committed.

Solo

 

[bigrobbie]

Hey Solo, how are you these days anyway? I sent you a PM by the way...

 

[ddp7]

Thanks, ddp7. Don't see many guys from a few years ago around (except for Dr. Jim, of course). Nice to see you're still committed.

Solo

Cool, I sent you a PM too,is about exemestane,just theoretical doubts,you are tha man,Thanks!

 

[grey]

My doc writes HCG scripts if the patients are concerned with atrophy. Beyond that he doesn't feel it has much additional therapeutic value for this use case.

 

[Sworder]

My questions are these:

1. Do many of you older guys who are now on HRT find using HCG helpful, or is it unnecessary?
2. When you go on a blast (a "cycle") beyond the HRT, do you then find HCG helpful, or is it still unnecessary?

All opinions welcome but experienced or knowledgeable thoughts especially welcome.

Solo

Sup Solo! Glad to see you posting.

I do runs of hCG every now and then(once a year maybe) to plump the guys up if they look sad. Sad is a subjective word so interpret it as you wish.
Other than that I wouldn't see a use for hCG.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Any

Any exogenous testosterone administration suppresses LH. IMO, hcg, when administered properly is important. Many disagree.

Ive always wondered about this...since starting TRT 5 yrs ago , Im no longer making LH & FSH . Whats the price for this ? Is this connected with head hair ? Curious .

 

[Oregongearhead]

Sup Solo! Glad to see you posting.

I do runs of hCG every now and then(once a year maybe) to plump the guys up if they look sad. Sad is a subjective word so interpret it as you wish.
Other than that I wouldn't see a use for hCG.

Same here @solo47 , good to see you around here again Meso vet.....~Ogh

 

[Theworm]

I'm going to start. Read up a lot about it and seems to help mood and cholesterol

Stims the testes to convert cholesterol into pregnenolone

Read somewhere there are LH receptors in the brain and hcg acts like LH and stimulates those receptors and create a sense of well being

 

[Theworm]

Just trying to find a dose that doesn't require an AI

 

[grey]

I'm going to start. Read up a lot about it and seems to help mood and cholesterol

Stims the testes to convert cholesterol into pregnenolone

Read somewhere there are LH receptors in the brain and hcg acts like LH and stimulates those receptors and create a sense of well being

Seen the mood thing reported anecdotally many times, it definitely does not have this effect on me.

 

[grey]

Just trying to find a dose that doesn't require an AI

That is going to vary by individual and may well come out to be too low a dose for many people.