HCG with HRT?

[ddp7]

Sup Solo! Glad to see you posting.

I do runs of hCG every now and then(once a year maybe) to plump the guys up if they look sad. Sad is a subjective word so interpret it as you wish.
Other than that I wouldn't see a use for hCG.

sorry for the off,well im not a older guy but Do you feel the hcg mind feeling? the psychological feeling,i mean? Do you feel great with that feeling?Curious,thanks.

 

[solo47]

Hey Solo, how are you these days anyway? I sent you a PM by the way...

I'm old, but not obsolete (as a famous robot once said)! Still haven't given up the ship. Good to see you haven't either, bigrobbie.

Solo

 

[ddp7]

Haha c´mon Solo answer my star wars questions lol ( thanks)

 

[solo47]

Sup Solo! Glad to see you posting.

I do runs of hCG every now and then(once a year maybe) to plump the guys up if they look sad. Sad is a subjective word so interpret it as you wish.
Other than that I wouldn't see a use for hCG.

Hey, Sworder. Wise posts from you in the past. It's tempting to run HCG because it does seem to be a (somewhat unpredictable) libido lift.

Solo

 

[solo47]

Ive always wondered about this...since starting TRT 5 yrs ago , Im no longer making LH & FSH . Whats the price for this ? Is this connected with head hair ? Curious .

The price for this may be that you're stuck on TRT for the indefinite future. HCG mimics the effect of LH & FSH, so maybe that's why I like it. Got a full head of hair still, though!

Solo

 

[ddp7]

 

[solo47]

Just trying to find a dose that doesn't require an AI

I find it is a slight mood lift (and libido enhancer) at higher doses. Anything up to and over 500 iu/wk probably requires an aromatase inhibitor because HCG will increase estro.

Solo

 

[solo47]

Seen the mood thing reported anecdotally many times, it definitely does not have this effect on me.

I certainly noticed "the mood thing" when I ran an old school regimen of 1000 iu/day for 10 days (after running none during cycle). Felt I was always on the verge of orgasm, which is necessarily a bad thing.

Solo

 

[ddp7]

I find it is a slight mood lift (and libido enhancer) at higher doses. Anything up to and over 500 iu/wk probably requires an aromatase inhibitor because HCG will increase estro.

Solo

what do you think about the dr crisler advice,a maximum of 250 ui ?

but my use is with anavar, a bill roberts idea ( check the Meso article)

 

[ddp7]

*250 ui per injection/day

 

[solo47]

I'm going to check my messages right now!!

 

[solo47]

what do you think about the dr crisler advice,a maximum of 250 ui ?

but my use is with anavar, a bill roberts idea ( check the Meso article)

That's sensible, I guess, if a) you're running HCG during cycle, and b) you still have your own FSH & LH production line going. Otherwise, I'd say push it on up there.

Solo

 

[Sworder]

sorry for the off,well im not a older guy but Do you feel the hcg mind feeling? the psychological feeling,i mean? Do you feel great with that feeling?Curious,thanks.

No, I don't feel much of a difference with hCG itself. I usually keep my e2 low so possibly the mood-lift could be a secondary effect to hCG from e2.

 

[solo47]

*250 ui per injection/day

Ooo, per day? That's high. I like it!

Solo

 

[ddp7]

No, I don't feel much of a difference with hCG itself. I usually keep my e2 low so possibly the mood-lift could be a secondary effect to hCG from e2.

Are trying to tell me that you dont use hCG alone? or what? I use HCG with exemestane,maybe could be a mistake.

 

[ddp7]

Ooo, per day? That's high. I like it!

Solo

Thanks,i forgive you idol

 

[Theworm]

The price for this may be that you're stuck on TRT for the indefinite future. HCG mimics the effect of LH & FSH, so maybe that's why I like it. Got a full head of hair still, though!

Solo

What's ur trt regimen?

 

[Juicey239]

This has been discussed before, but I thought I'd bring it up once again to see if anything has changed. Regular HCG is a very good idea on cycle, and it's best taken during the cycle to make "recovery" easier. Others are fine with doing megadoses post-cycle before beginning actual PCT.

My questions are these:

1. Do many of you older guys who are now on HRT find using HCG helpful, or is it unnecessary?
2. When you go on a blast (a "cycle") beyond the HRT, do you then find HCG helpful, or is it still unnecessary?

All opinions welcome but experienced or knowledgeable thoughts especially welcome.

Solo

Read many posts from you long before I joined Meso. Nice to see you posting.

Thought you stopped juicing, or lifting, or dead. Lol

Nice to meet you bro

 

[Old]

It's unnecessary to run hcg, but that being said- I do personally find a feeling of wellbeing while on it- might be the small estrogen increase, the hcg itself or the larger hanging balls lol. I've ran it all year and for 6-8 weeks periods and find I prefer to come off for awhile and hit it up again if I start feeling "suppressed" (sex drive lowered, mood, balls hugging tight, etc). This year I'm planning on 8 weeks on, 5 weeks off. I find 700-1200 IU per week ideal with the standard 250iu twice a week not being enough (a study showed 250iu eod bringing to 83% of normal production of testosterone and 500iu eod bringing to 133% if irc if it matters for how/why we run it)

Do you happen to have a link to that study?
Thanks

 

[ddp7]

I'm going to check my messages right now!!

That's sensible, I guess, if a) you're running HCG during cycle, and b) you still have your own FSH & LH production line going. Otherwise, I'd say push it on up there.

Solo

Thanks Solo,got it.