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Heath or Greene?

As of right now I have to give it to Kai we'll see if he can keep it up.

Kai needed to show some fight that humble stuff is great, but Phil capitalizes on it with his arrogant self entitled attitude he just eats that up every year. It's about time Kai got in Phil's head. I guess Kai hanging out with CT Fletcher has made him tap into showing that fighter.

Regardless of who wins I will say this year has been the most entertain Mr O I've watched.

As weird as Kai's persona might be I'd rather hang out with him than Phil who seems like a spoiled self entitled kid that never worked for anything. Just my .02
 
dper726 said:
I gotta give it to you @brutus79 , this pose alone from last night pre judging kai is beating out phil. Kai has improved his conditioning drastically from last year. Which I don't even know how he won second with it last year. But this year he seems to be on point.

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from these photos I'm still going with Heath. Heath arms and legs are more shredded than Kai. neither ones mid section is showing abs. either the pic was caught mid flex or they are starting to hold water. Heath has better conditioning than Kai. to much politics in BB. the times these guys should get beat they don't and when they should win they don't. WTF!
 
HuckingFuge said:
from these photos I'm still going with Heath. Heath arms and legs are more shredded than Kai. neither ones mid section is showing abs. either the pic was caught mid flex or they are starting to hold water. Heath has better conditioning than Kai. to much politics in BB. the times these guys should get beat they don't and when they should win they don't. WTF!
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My thought is you can always tell if guys are at their peak and in shape is by looking at their lower back and abs. I think both Kai and Heath were off a bit, Heath being a hair better. Now if look at the photos of Shawn Rhoden, his lower back and abs are grainy, thin skinned. He is lacking in some mass compared to those guys and lower lats but he look good, but not close enough to take it from Heath.

Kai's theatrics on stage during comparisons probably did not help his bid.
 
heady muscle said:
My thought is you can always tell if guys are at their peak and in shape is by looking at their lower back and abs. I think both Kai and Heath were off a bit, Heath being a hair better. Now if look at the photos of Shawn Rhoden, his lower back and abs are grainy, thin skinned. He is lacking in some mass compared to those guys and lower lats but he look good, but not close enough to take it from Heath.

Kai's theatrics on stage during comparisons probably did not help his bid.
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true, I've only seen the photos posted here. I just watched the press conference of Heath and Kai. Kai just fucking rambles about stupid shit. Heath spanked both George Ferra and Kai's ass in mental wit. I think the next Mr. O will be this guy. I can't think of his name atm. he just needs to improve his back and he will beat Heath. IMHO


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HuckingFuge said:
true, I've only seen the photos posted here. I just watched the press conference of Heath and Kai. Kai just fucking rambles about stupid shit. Heath spanked both George Ferra and Kai's ass in mental wit. I think the next Mr. O will be this guy. I can't think of his name atm. he just needs to improve his back and he will beat Heath. IMHO


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That guy is a beast! all photos here: http://contest.bodybuilding.com/results/28752
 
HuckingFuge said:
true, I've only seen the photos posted here. I just watched the press conference of Heath and Kai. Kai just fucking rambles about stupid shit. Heath spanked both George Ferra and Kai's ass in mental wit. I think the next Mr. O will be this guy. I can't think of his name atm. he just needs to improve his back and he will beat Heath. IMHO


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That's Big Ramy :)

The thing I like about Ramy is that he has a pretty loyal following / fan base on the net, because every year there are always guys who say Ramy is gonna wipe the floor with everyone, he's gonna come in first etc) The guy has ridiculous size for sure, but I don't think he is anywhere near top 5 at the moment....although its definitely possible, he is still very young. But he is still a little bit away from being a top 5 competitor, and I think he has quite a bit more to go in his development.

I don't think anyone is taking this down anytime soon:

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Anyone else notice how much freakier Phil heath's forearms are compared to everyone else? The guy has some of the best forearm genetics I have ever seen, I know it doesn't sound like something that really matters, but it really makes his upper arms seem that much more impressive as well... I don't think Kai comes close to Phil in this area, as insignificant as it may be.

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HuckingFuge said:
I been watching the pose downs and Kai will never be Mr. O with that gut and being a damn baby all the time.
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Politics are playing a role here as well,but even physique wise I don't see Kai being able to make the same improvements that Phil is able to make. Phil Heath is still very young and it seems every top level competitor comes to a point where there really isn't any moving forward, and a lot of time their development has a tendency to go backwards...I think that is where Kai is, whereas Phil Heath still has plenty of time and room to make improvements.
 
weighted chinup said:
Politics are playing a role here as well,but even physique wise I don't see Kai being able to make the same improvements that Phil is able to make. Phil Heath is still very young and it seems every top level competitor comes to a point where there really isn't any moving forward, and a lot of time their development has a tendency to go backwards...I think that is where Kai is, whereas Phil Heath still has plenty of time and room to make improvements.
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yes, too much politics. Ronnie, Cutler, and Haney. should of lost several times.
 
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