Hello we are HGHPRO

Yes i dont mind at all but it is ultimately not my call in the end since this factory produces many things and the items produced are of a sensitive nature i can see why the powers that be more than me are cautious about letting the exact location or name of factory be discovered . Basically what the big boss says is that we have certain things in place for a reason which is why we have made the videos we have and why we can bring someone to tour if that person is a good client etc.

So if he shoots down the pictures that may be an option of letting a staff member come in for a tour and they can report back

You have all the excuses. Why don't you go over to AB where you source as well and answer some questions. GH factory lol. You know damn well nobody is going to fly to China supposedly and tour your nonexistent GH factory. If someone did take you up on your offer, then you would come up with another bullshit excuse so they couldn't come tour it. I believe there is a source that popped in over there at AB saying you owe him some stuff for a long while now, and your communication has been nonexistent for the most part. Maybe you should clear that up too.
 
How fast has his t/a been on domestic orders lately at the rig working can’t really read a lot sorry guys not being lazy just busy as hell
 
Keep that argument at AB, those questions are a weird fishing expedition

Those questions were clearly explained by Navy, a highly respected mod at AB. Its a simple and easy way, with no security risk, for HGHpro to establish credibility and prove his claim of factory ownership. On top of that, HGHpro himself requested for a way to prove those ownership claims and he, himself agreed to answer the questions without any suggestion that it would pose any problems for him.

Rpbb, I am sorry that you think credibility is not an important criteria by which to vet a new source, with no prior history, who appears in many ways to resemble a previous scammer who constantly returns under new handles. While credibility may not be a concern to you and your superior wisdom; most veterans that have been around for a long time, have enough experience to know that credibility is a HUGE issue when determining whether someone is going to scam.

You seem to think that if a source is sending out quality product and people are receiving then that is all that matters. You fail to understand that most scammers initially send out good product to fool inexperienced people, such as yourself, so they can sucker you in and scam you shortly down he road.

Please look at the big picture and take your personal feelings towards me out of the equation. If you truly care about the community, as opposed to selfish motives; this should be an easy task.
 
Those questions were clearly explained by Navy, a highly respected mod at AB. Its a simple and easy way, with no security risk, for HGHpro to establish credibility and prove his claim of factory ownership. On top of that, HGHpro himself requested for a way to prove those ownership claims and he, himself agreed to answer the questions without any suggestion that it would pose any problems for him.

Rpbb, I am sorry that you think credibility is not an important criteria by which to vet a new source, with no prior history, who appears in many ways to resemble a previous scammer who constantly returns under new handles. While credibility may not be a concern to you and your superior wisdom; most veterans that have been around for a long time, have enough experience to know that credibility is a HUGE issue when determining whether someone is going to scam.

You seem to think that if a source is sending out quality product and people are receiving then that is all that matters. You fail to understand that most scammers initially send out good product to fool inexperienced people, such as yourself, so they can sucker you in and scam you shortly down he road.

Please look at the big picture and take your personal feelings towards me out of the equation. If you truly care about the community, as opposed to selfish motives; this should be an easy task.
get tp to post all that stuff, and I'll agree. Hope you're feeling better
 
Those questions were clearly explained by Navy, a highly respected mod at AB. Its a simple and easy way, with no security risk, for HGHpro to establish credibility and prove his claim of factory ownership. On top of that, HGHpro himself requested for a way to prove those ownership claims and he, himself agreed to answer the questions without any suggestion that it would pose any problems for him.

Rpbb, I am sorry that you think credibility is not an important criteria by which to vet a new source, with no prior history, who appears in many ways to resemble a previous scammer who constantly returns under new handles. While credibility may not be a concern to you and your superior wisdom; most veterans that have been around for a long time, have enough experience to know that credibility is a HUGE issue when determining whether someone is going to scam.

You seem to think that if a source is sending out quality product and people are receiving then that is all that matters. You fail to understand that most scammers initially send out good product to fool inexperienced people, such as yourself, so they can sucker you in and scam you shortly down he road.

Please look at the big picture and take your personal feelings towards me out of the equation. If you truly care about the community, as opposed to selfish motives; this should be an easy task.

While I agree with you in the sense that:

"scammers initially send out good product to fool inexperienced people, such as yourself, so they can sucker you in and scam you shortly down he road."

That makes it exceedingly hard to differentiate a good source in the beginning from a bad, reasons being they would both be behaving similarly in sending out good products.

Once the "honeymoon" phase is over that is when it gets real. As of now besides him potentially "acting" like a previous scammer (and I have read the entire thread on AB) there seems to be nothing concrete pointing to the fact that he is

MG/Pacman/Kalatu/Horizon etc...

I will have Serum test in 4 days and 10-14 days after that IGF. He had no way of linking my user name to my email and knowing what kit I am going to use and get testing on.

If people besides myself continue with IGF testing, and HPLC testing continues as well periodically month to month then it makes it exceedingly hard to pull a scam off. Due to my past experiences, and others have mentioned it as well, big sales make me weary and suspicious of an exit scam but so far he had an intro sale and one other sale with no one reporting not ultimately receiving their product.

As of now the only "issues" I see are:
1. Not enough communication
2. Disappears on weekends
3. Domestic shipping issues

Those while can be nerve-wracking aren't scamming issues so much as customer service. @hghpro is new to this and offers a lot of potential as a game changing player in the domestic hGH game. If he fixes those issues, and I believe for the most part he has, then I see no reason why a scam would be more profitable than him continuing his services.

As of now does anyone have an outstanding issue that hasn't been resolved or addressed by this source?
 
get tp to post all that stuff, and I'll agree. Hope you're feeling better

You mentioned this earlier and keep missing the point that TP NEVER claimed to own a GH factory. Had he made claims such as these, then the same requests would be made of him. Had HGHpro simply said that he was a reseller, and not this load of obvious bullshit that he was once a majority owner of a GH factory, then those requests never would have been made. These requests have nothing to do with product quality or capability of providing product; instead they simply go towards credibility. Do you not think credibility is an important criteria?
 
That makes it exceedingly hard to differentiate a good source in the beginning from a bad, reasons being they would both be behaving similarly in sending out good products.

Exactly, this is why credibility is key and is a way that those with experience have used to differentiate a good source from a bad in the beginning.

People keep saying I am an expert on GH. While I appreciate the compliment, I do not claim to be an expert; I just know people and have access to information(and about 25 years of experience using). However, I do claim to be an expert at catching scammers and know what to look for. Credibility is one of the top issues if not the top.
 
Exactly, this is why credibility is key and is a way that those with experience have used to differentiate a good source from a bad in the beginning.

People keep saying I am an expert on GH. While I appreciate the compliment, I do not claim to be an expert; I just know people and have access to information(and about 25 years of experience using). However, I do claim to be an expert at catching scammers and know what to look for. Credibility is one of the top issues if not the top.
I just dont get it. He could be telling the truth or maybe not. Its completely irrelevant to the products. I have no doubt in my mind that EVERY source makes shit up from time to time. They have to to protect themselves. If you think that proving he was a part owner of an hgh factory automatically proves that he wont exit scam then ur retarded. Anybody could pull an exit scam at any time regardless of what they've proven. If packs keep landing and tests keep coming back good that's all I care about. One day maybe I'll get scammed but I NEVER buy anything from someone I met on a forum without expecting to lose it. Just my opinion have a nice day
 
True, but there need to be multiple test by multiple people. We don't have that we have one test that was from one of the first kits sold. Absolutely nothing has been done since then, igf, hplc none of it.

I agree 100%, i can't believe im the only one that has done any sort of testing on this source. I dont expect everyone to send vials for testing like i did, but i thought for sure we would have SEVERAL IGF-1 blood tests by now as several members said they were gonna get tested. Im waiting on another order and might get another sample tested. I would like to know if quality and purity is still where it was with the new kits as it was with his original kits.
 
Exactly, this is why credibility is key and is a way that those with experience have used to differentiate a good source from a bad in the beginning.

People keep saying I am an expert on GH. While I appreciate the compliment, I do not claim to be an expert; I just know people and have access to information(and about 25 years of experience using). However, I do claim to be an expert at catching scammers and know what to look for. Credibility is one of the top issues if not the top.

Yes, and the only way to prove credibility of product (not character) is consistency. The #1 guy in the game has over a decade of customer feedback and is still around. Ideally he can be another one, realistically and percentage wise it is hard to be a lasting player in the game.

I agree 100%, i can't believe im the only one that has done any sort of testing on this source. I dont expect everyone to send vials for testing like i did, but i thought for sure we would have SEVERAL IGF-1 blood tests by now as several members said they were gonna get tested. Im waiting on another order and might get another sample tested. I would like to know if quality and purity is still where it was with the new kits as it was with his original kits.

Serum the 2nd and IGF 2 weeks later. I'm a bit OCD and won't be starting gh until the 1st. Makes planning my cycle on paper easier and more aesthetically pleasing.

I may have missed it but wasn't @Rockclimber going to get it before me?
 
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