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Why 12 hours? So he can come up with some bullshit excuse? He sure is quick to respond on the board here until things aren’t going well, or there are complaints, then he takes forever to respond. Gee, I wonder why?

Because he said "today" that's how much "day" was left.

He hasn't posted on AB in awhile, whatever "excuse" you think he needs to make up surely doesn't need any more time. What is a few hours going to do?

Says the clown whos been a member for 3 months and has almost 2k posts

Strong post #6, coupled with bad math. Attacking members of the community you are looking out for, right? Honestly you popped out of your almost decade hibernation after joining to contribute what exactly?

You guys don't give a rats ass about harm reduction.
 
Because he said "today" that's how much "day" was left.

He hasn't posted on AB in awhile, whatever "excuse" you think he needs to make up surely doesn't need any more time. What is a few hours going to do?



Strong post #6, attacking members of the community you are looking out for, right?

You guys don't give a rats ass about harm reduction.

What exactly is harm reduction? Does listening to a veteran of around 20 years of experience exposing scammers with an impeccable record on many boards in the community. You won't find anybody outside of the Dr. Jim clique here that has anything negative to say about me on any board out there as I am a straight shooter. And I was famous on the boards for exposing scammers long before knowing much about GH. I don't mean to sound cocky, but I know what to look for and can smell a scammer a mile away. You want to let board politics and personal feelings get in the way of common sense and listening to people that actually know better; then go ahead and ignore our warnings. I don't wish anyone to get scammed, but I can guarantee 100% that it will happen in this case. HGHpro is going to be laughing all the way to the bank and you will wonder where you went wrong. Open your eyes, the signs are everywhere!!!
 
What exactly is harm reduction? Does listening to a veteran of around 20 years of experience exposing scammers with an impeccable record on many boards in the community. You won't find anybody outside of the Dr. Jim clique here that has anything negative to say about me on any board out there as I am a straight shooter. And I was famous on the boards for exposing scammers long before knowing much about GH. I don't mean to sound cocky, but I know what to look for and can smell a scammer a mile away. You want to let board politics and personal feelings get in the way of common sense and listening to people that actually know better; then go ahead and ignore our warnings. I don't wish anyone to get scammed, but I can guarantee 100% that it will happen in this case. HGHpro is going to be laughing all the way to the bank and you will wonder where you went wrong. Open your eyes, the signs are everywhere!!!

My eyes are open. This has nothing to do with board politics or my personal feelings.

However it DOES seem like YOUR feelings regarding @hghpro being a scammer is causing this issue.

You are a veteran, I am listening, but I have yet to see anything concrete or factual besides your "gut" feeling.

Harm reduction would be facts. All I've seen so far is a bunch of unfounded conspiracy theories that he may or may not be a previous scammer based on the feelings of other old members on a different forum.

In the mean time packs are landing, testing is good, and he has not disappeared with anyone's money. You guys say initially legit products will arrive, and I've said before so long as that is happening there is no difference between him and a good source. If you've been in the game for ~20 years then you would know any source even the best ones can go south at any time.

So just stay vigilante, don't make large orders, and everyone communicate and discuss delays and everything on here and not through email.
 
So you’ve been standing guard on the lookout for our (Meso) community for the last 8 years and NOW you have your opportunity to act as a steward?

Your story sounds like made up bullshit. You have a persona agenda here, let’s be clear.
Nice try he did post up links to come over here.
 
My eyes are open. This has nothing to do with board politics or my personal feelings.

However it DOES seem like YOUR feelings regarding @hghpro being a scammer is causing this issue.

You are a veteran, I am listening, but I have yet to see anything concrete or factual besides your "gut" feeling.

Harm reduction would be facts. All I've seen so far is a bunch of unfounded conspiracy theories that he may or may not be a previous scammer based on the feelings of other old members on a different forum.

In the mean time packs are landing, testing is good, and he has not disappeared with anyone's money. You guys say initially legit products will arrive, and I've said before so long as that is happening there is no difference between him and a good source. If you've been in the game for ~20 years then you would know any source even the best ones can go south at any time.

So just stay vigilante, don't make large orders, and everyone communicate and discuss delays and everything on here and not through email.

I usually go with my gut because my instincts are correct most of the time. But lets take that out of the equation. Lets look at the facts.

You have a source who claims to be new but has said things that demonstrate that he is lying. Why would he lie about his past?

He has made claims such as GH factory ownership that are clearly lies and has offered zero proof to back those up. In addition he has lied about numerous things; he has a new excuse for something pretty much everyday.

He walked back his GMP claims when he was called out on them and showed that he has no knowledge of GMP; which a factory owner should.

In addition, he happens to have the exact same handle that a known scammer told someone he trusted that he was going to come back as. He also has the same methodology and way of doing business as this scammer and the delays and excuses that he is experiencing, I already predicted before they started.

In addition, I have caught this scammer under previous handles before and he reacted the same way he is now. There were veterans that were getting free product and stood up for him and made excuses for him like you are doing here(not implying you are getting free product).

Just stating the facts. You can ignore the facts and ignore history(which always repeats itself). You seem to have a lot of sensible members that are skeptical and have voiced their concerns about the way this guy conducts his business. Its baffling why people are ignoring them simply because they received and like the product. This thread is full of complaints about communication, lack of receiving in a timely manner, and even quality of the products(i.e. red welts). I'm not sure what you are looking for. I think he could come out and tell you that he is going to scam you shortly and you would hurry up and place an order.
 
I usually go with my gut because my instincts are correct most of the time. But lets take that out of the equation. Lets look at the facts.

You have a source who claims to be new but has said things that demonstrate that he is lying. Why would he lie about his past?

He has made claims such as GH factory ownership that are clearly lies and has offered zero proof to back those up. In addition he has lied about numerous things; he has a new excuse for something pretty much everyday.

He walked back his GMP claims when he was called out on them and showed that he has no knowledge of GMP; which a factory owner should.

In addition, he happens to have the exact same handle that a known scammer told someone he trusted that he was going to come back as. He also has the same methodology and way of doing business as this scammer and the delays and excuses that he is experiencing, I already predicted before they started.

In addition, I have caught this scammer under previous handles before and he reacted the same way he is now. There were veterans that were getting free product and stood up for him and made excuses for him like you are doing here(not implying you are getting free product).

Just stating the facts. You can ignore the facts and ignore history(which always repeats itself). You seem to have a lot of sensible members that are skeptical and have voiced their concerns about the way this guy conducts his business. Its baffling why people are ignoring them simply because they received and like the product. This thread is full of complaints about communication, lack of receiving in a timely manner, and even quality of the products(i.e. red welts). I'm not sure what you are looking for. I think he could come out and tell you that he is going to scam you shortly and you would hurry up and place an order.

His communication isn't the best, domestic shipping issues, and one member with red welts.

Those are issues backed up by proof, that's what's the most concerning to me. But worrying about being scammed somewhere down the line, I have that worry with every source no matter what. That's why I keep my orders under $500. I'd rather pay the shipping cost multiple times than lose g's at a time.

If you noticed I said
So just stay vigilante, don't make large orders, and everyone communicate and discuss delays and everything on here and not through email.

But if we start ruling out sources based off gut feelings I wouldn't be ordering from anyone.

EDIT: I'm in no way saying you are wrong, I'm just hoping for something more concrete than speculation.
 
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I usually go with my gut because my instincts are correct most of the time. But lets take that out of the equation. Lets look at the facts.

You have a source who claims to be new but has said things that demonstrate that he is lying. Why would he lie about his past?

He has made claims such as GH factory ownership that are clearly lies and has offered zero proof to back those up. In addition he has lied about numerous things; he has a new excuse for something pretty much everyday.

He walked back his GMP claims when he was called out on them and showed that he has no knowledge of GMP; which a factory owner should.

In addition, he happens to have the exact same handle that a known scammer told someone he trusted that he was going to come back as. He also has the same methodology and way of doing business as this scammer and the delays and excuses that he is experiencing, I already predicted before they started.

In addition, I have caught this scammer under previous handles before and he reacted the same way he is now. There were veterans that were getting free product and stood up for him and made excuses for him like you are doing here(not implying you are getting free product).

Just stating the facts. You can ignore the facts and ignore history(which always repeats itself). You seem to have a lot of sensible members that are skeptical and have voiced their concerns about the way this guy conducts his business. Its baffling why people are ignoring them simply because they received and like the product. This thread is full of complaints about communication, lack of receiving in a timely manner, and even quality of the products(i.e. red welts). I'm not sure what you are looking for. I think he could come out and tell you that he is going to scam you shortly and you would hurry up and place an order.
Geez, as I've said before, do you get paid by the word, because you seem to think That if you type enough words, your argument will become valid. Like i told you years ago, that's bullshit. We are very good at vetting and policing sources on our own here, and we don't use things like gut feelings, or anecdotal evidence. You guys can abuse any source all you want at any paid source board you ant, but try sticking to facts here. Because all I've see from you and your AB buddies is the same bullshit I used to see from you and your shill army at pro muscle. Go away.
 
Geez, as I've said before, do you get paid by the word, because you seem to think That if you type enough words, your argument will become valid. Like i told you years ago, that's bullshit. We are very good at vetting and policing sources on our own here, and we don't use things like gut feelings, or anecdotal evidence. You guys can abuse any source all you want at any paid source board you ant, but try sticking to facts here. Because all I've see from you and your AB buddies is the same bullshit I used to see from you and your shill army at pro muscle. Go away.

You state, "We are very good at vetting and policing sources on our own here". Thats kind of an elitist statement there. I didn't realize this was YOUR board. You have this selfish and snobbish attitude that doesn't lend to knowledge sharing and one of being a community working together. I've read your posts before and most of them are you playing tough guy and belittling people. Your lack of knowledge is glaring in your posts. You should sit back and listen with your ears more.

Its funny, you have claimed in the past that paid source boards are all protective of their sources and bad comments get deleted. Now your saying the opposite and that we can abuse a source at a "source" board. You can't have it both ways. You change your argument to suit your needs.

And lastly you tell me to stick to the facts and then call me and my "buddies" shills. Perhaps you can post some facts to prove that I am a shill. I have been asking you for years to state just ONE instance where I have ever received payment for items for supporting a source. Just one time, and I promise, I will bow down and apologize to you. I'm sure you will come up with absolutely nothing as you always do and instead will make up more labels to call me and dismiss my statements without any factual response.
 
I really wish I had money for bloods.... I'm running that 3-4iu/day mark and my hands/arms just go numb all the time on and off.
Never had this ever before.... But never ran gh before either.
I just lowered my dosage from 4 ius (split dosing) to 2 ius am upon waking up and finally I’m sleeping all night.. took 2 days to get it .. but finally.. I think I ramped up to fast in the beginning..
 
You state, "We are very good at vetting and policing sources on our own here". Thats kind of an elitist statement there. I didn't realize this was YOUR board. You have this selfish and snobbish attitude that doesn't lend to knowledge sharing and one of being a community working together. I've read your posts before and most of them are you playing tough guy and belittling people. Your lack of knowledge is glaring in your posts. You should sit back and listen with your ears more.

Its funny, you have claimed in the past that paid source boards are all protective of their sources and bad comments get deleted. Now your saying the opposite and that we can abuse a source at a "source" board. You can't have it both ways. You change your argument to suit your needs.

And lastly you tell me to stick to the facts and then call me and my "buddies" shills. Perhaps you can post some facts to prove that I am a shill. I have been asking you for years to state just ONE instance where I have ever received payment for items for supporting a source. Just one time, and I promise, I will bow down and apologize to you. I'm sure you will come up with absolutely nothing as you always do and instead will make up more labels to call me and dismiss my statements without any factual response.
Like I said, you write these long drivel filled posts that say and mean nothing, if you got evidence that this source is a scammer, be glad to hear. Otherwise, go away
 
Like I said, you write these long drivel filled posts that say and mean nothing, if you got evidence that this source is a scammer, be glad to hear. Otherwise, go away

The fact that you got nothing out of that post speaks volumes. And why would you tell someone to go away; I thought it was an uncensored board. If you don't like my opinion, then you are welcome to debate it. But you can't control who posts and what they post; that is called censorship. You really are confused about what you stand for.
 
Geez, as I've said before, do you get paid by the word, because you seem to think That if you type enough words, your argument will become valid. Like i told you years ago, that's bullshit. We are very good at vetting and policing sources on our own here, and we don't use things like gut feelings, or anecdotal evidence. You guys can abuse any source all you want at any paid source board you ant, but try sticking to facts here. Because all I've see from you and your AB buddies is the same bullshit I used to see from you and your shill army at pro muscle. Go away.
What are you a 12 yr old girl???
 
@hghpro whatever happened to your rep? Still waiting on approval?o_O and I have to say your communication leaves little to be desired with you taking off still for days at a time. We keep telling you to fix this but you seem content to just go radio silence. Not smart to ignore the board for days when you're still relatively new here.
Im not sure what you mean and yes it is still waiting on approval the user name is hghprorep im going to pm millard about it today. And as for communication 90% of emails get returned in less than 24 hrs and most within hours i dont see why it is an issue for us to not be on the board for a day or so here and there as long as everyone gets what they paid for or am i looking at it wrong
 
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