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[taco33150]

What's crazy is my dad drinks more than me.... takes only 2.5iu and forgets to take it half the time, he goes in and scores an almost 240 I think. Fucking sucks. On 5iu he would be over 400 probably, ridiculous.

How long do I wait to do blood work on it??
I’m gonna do 5ius right before.. 30 min ?

 

[Logan44551]

How long do I wait to do blood work on it??
I’m gonna do 5ius right before.. 30 min ?

For igf-1 you just need to be on for at least 2 weeks. Doesn't matter beyond that, for the serum test you do 10 iu in delt 4 hours or less before blood draw

 

[Roco Bama]

297 is by far the highest igf score I have had, I am either a terrible responder or the "am I an alcoholic" thread means I have ruined my livers ability to convert gh to igf-1.
Just for fun I would like to stop drinking for say 3 months and then retest. The gh is working great for me though, fat loss is phenomenal, glad I ordered it bulk, it's the best underground gh I have ever used.

I'll call my moms lab nurse up today and see if she will fax me the results so I can edit my info out and then post it here. Normally I dont but someone a page or 2 back asked for it.

the fact that your body doesn't convert exogenous HGH properly to IGF doesn't make you a bad responder since you're getting the expected results from HGH.

 

[Roco Bama]

What's crazy is my dad drinks more than me.... takes only 2.5iu and forgets to take it half the time, he goes in and scores an almost 240 I think. Fucking sucks. On 5iu he would be over 400 probably, ridiculous.

Is your father back on taking HGH ? If I remember correctly, your mother had him to stop taking it

 

[muscles275]

And English, *you're, both times.

He should have came over, yes, communication, or lack of is one of the biggest issues. Domestic shipping has had issues too. Some vials not having vacuum seals are an issue. A member getting welts is an issue.

But these all keep getting glossed over because a bunch of people that aren't contributing members keep spouting this,

"He is eventually going to scam you all" - nonsense.

So unless you got some source crystal ball and clairvoyant tendencies, it would be in the best interest of everyone who really cares about harm reduction to put aside this back and forth speculation and let these issues be dealt with accordingly.

Like I said, not even saying you guys are wrong. But it's turning into the boy who cried wolf and the real issues aren't being addressed.

So YOUR the post count police and also the grammar guy??

Relax little guy as your Napoleon complex is getting the best of your rookie ass

 

[Rockclimber]

Is your father back on taking HGH ? If I remember correctly, your mother had him to stop taking it

Yeah his blood creatinine levels got too high and she blamed it on the growth hormone. He's back on 2.5iu per day and she is on 2iu a day. His blood creatinine levels are fine now so hes continuing use. At 240 igf she wants him to lower his dose to 2iu because she believes for his age 240 is supraphysiological. She's correct but I laughed and told her that was the whole point. We want his dose to be slightly above the physiological range, I want him to be in the higher 200 so his body can heal from his daily workouts and so he can lose fat quicker. As an endocrinologist she believes that everything needs to be in the physiological dose range she doesn't understand the supraphysiological benefits because she says the possible side effects can outweigh the possible benefits. She's coming on board slowly though to the whole growth hormone supplementation

 

[Rockclimber]

Here is my igf report. I had to edit out damn near half the page they put so much information on these things.
Again I'm 37. 6'2" 228 pounds this am at 15% bf. Taking 5iu mon-fri taking weekends off. All 5iu in the am. Might split 2.5 and 2.5 and retest. Or just stop drinking LITs and join AA.

 

[picholas]

So YOUR the post count police and also the grammar guy??

Relax little guy as your Napoleon complex is getting the best of your rookie ass

Still *you're

I'm quite calm, but you went from nothing in 9 years, to attacking this source baselessly, to attacking me?

Not sure what you think you are accomplishing here besides looking foolish.

@hghpro needs to:

• PM Milliard his rep handle to expedite him joining, this lack of communication this early on is a problem. You need close to 24/7 presence right now.
• Address the no vacuum seal on some kits.
  
• Address the one member who is getting red welts.
• Post on AB, take care of whatever needs to be done there, whether it be leaving or resolving the issue. It has been spilling over onto Meso and making the more important above issues get burred under the bullshit.

@hghpro

Please address all these points. And answer your PMs.

 

[Roco Bama]

Yeah his blood creatinine levels got too high and she blamed it on the growth hormone. He's back on 2.5iu per day and she is on 2iu a day. His blood creatinine levels are fine now so hes continuing use. At 240 igf she wants him to lower his dose to 2iu because she believes for his age 240 is supraphysiological. She's correct but I laughed and told her that was the whole point. We want his dose to be slightly above the physiological range, I want him to be in the higher 200 so his body can heal from his daily workouts and so he can lose fat quicker. As an endocrinologist she believes that everything needs to be in the physiological dose range she doesn't understand the supraphysiological benefits because she says the possible side effects can outweigh the possible benefits. She's coming on board slowly though to the whole growth hormone supplementation

Older people above 60 are prone to cancer and higher IGF levels are known to trigger cancer. So your mom is right on that part. your father can still get good benefits from taking 2iu daily. Maybe your father can consider upping his TRT dose to also put his test level at the higher end of range. That can help him recover better from workouts

 

[Steve84]

It's like $55-65 bucks. You can afford to run 3-4iu gh/day, and I assume running a decent amount of gear, but not to get a blood test that you can be done at home?

Always assumptions moron...I'm in Canada
You can't just always get a Dr to request a test like that blindly.
You need a private Dr. The test can be 100-200 + Cost of the Dr wants to assign.
So 200-300 Approximately is where I sit.
I can go fucking blast 10iu's a day instead literally.
Better just to pay for Analytical testing.

@3ml What are you paying for this test?

 

[3ml]

Always assumptions moron...I'm in Canada
You can't just always get a Dr to request a test like that blindly.
You need a private Dr. The test can be 100-200 + Cost of the Dr wants to assign.
So 200-300 Approximately is where I sit.
I can go fucking blast 10iu's a day instead literally.
Better just to pay for Analytical testing.

@3ml What are you paying for this test?

I go through a naturopath to request bloods
All in costs me about $160

 

[Steve84]

Exactly, you have no clue who I am shilling for, for the simple reason that I am not a shill. Its your goto argument to discount everything I say without having to have a discussion. You simply label me a shill and you can ignore anything HGHpro does at AB because his lying is obviously justified. You are so fucking clueless its pathetic.

And you know absolutely nothing about the testing program at PM. The only tests you approve of are those done by Dr. Jim that were proven to be wrong. Now you tell me who has the agenda?

Go back to AB
Who fucking cares about his pictures...That's an AB problem not a meso problem.

You are on Meso so stop bringing your shit into this thread unless it is actually useful.
If he doesn't do something like provide pics on AB, Go bitch in AB.

 

[Steve84]

I go through a naturopath to request bloods
All in costs me about $160

67 for the test for me
110 Followup with a dumb fucking dr for the result

So i'm sitting 200

 

[taco33150]

For igf-1 you just need to be on for at least 2 weeks. Doesn't matter beyond that, for the serum test you do 10 iu in delt 4 hours or less before blood draw

I’ve been on since July.. but I just backed down to 2 ius a day..
I’m just getting igf done along with the female panel from private labs site

 

[muscle96ss]

Go back to AB
Who fucking cares about his pictures...That's an AB problem not a meso problem.

You are on Meso so stop bringing your shit into this thread unless it is actually useful.
If he doesn't do something like provide pics on AB, Go bitch in AB.

No need to act like an idiot tough guy on the internet. First of all, any problem that the source has is a problem, not just an AB problem. Are you that fucking stupid that you think he is going to treat you guys differently than he treats others on other boards? Secondly, I have been a member here much longer than you have; so don't give me this shit about what I can and cant post on meso. If you want to censor me then go join a censored board. Its funny, you guys are all about free speech and its an uncensored board. The only problem is "uncensored" seems to mean that anybody can post anything they want but only if you agree with it. If you don't agree with it then you tell them to go away and expect them to shut up.

 

[Fitwelder]

No need to act like an idiot tough guy on the internet. First of all, any problem that the source has is a problem, not just an AB problem. Are you that fucking stupid that you think he is going to treat you guys differently than he treats others on other boards? Secondly, I have been a member here much longer than you have; so don't give me this shit about what I can and cant post on meso. If you want to censor me then go join a censored board. Its funny, you guys are all about free speech and its an uncensored board. The only problem is "uncensored" seems to mean that anybody can post anything they want but only if you agree with it. If you don't agree with it then you tell them to go away and expect them to shut up.

Were just sick of hearing about your problems at ab. I think most of the members here are more concerned about receiving product and receiving a good product. I understand what you're saying about being accountable for what you say. His mistake is trying to be too open. No other source provides this info you're asking for because its completely irrelevant at the end of the day. Now because hghpro decided to tell his background story, whether it's TRUE or not, he fucked himself over. Me... I only care about good products arriving on time. Even if this guy provides every thing you guys are asking for, I'm still gonna be skeptical because anybody could scam anybody at any given time. In this game you should be ready to get ripped off cos it could happen to anyone at anytime.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Well guess who you can blame for all this? @hghpro if he would just sign in to ab I'm sure no one would have to track him down on other forums.

 

[muscle96ss]

Were just sick of hearing about your problems at ab. I think most of the members here are more concerned about receiving product and receiving a good product. I understand what you're saying about being accountable for what you say. His mistake is trying to be too open. No other source provides this info you're asking for because its completely irrelevant at the end of the day. Now because hghpro decided to tell his background story, whether it's TRUE or not, he fucked himself over. Me... I only care about good products arriving on time. Even if this guy provides every thing you guys are asking for, I'm still gonna be skeptical because anybody could scam anybody at any given time. In this game you should be ready to get ripped off cos it could happen to anyone at anytime.

I get what you are saying. But two important points; firstly, he brought this on himself. He agreed to the terms over at AB to prove his claims and then disappeared, like a coward, and hid over here. Its been 2 weeks and he has yet to even show up and offer some lame excuse. And the mod designed the request so that it would not risk safety or security and could easily be done in a timely manner if his claims were true. HGHpro even stalled everybody yesterday when he said he was returning to AB by the end of the day. Yet he lied as usual and has no intention of going back because he knows we are onto his game and he doesn't have the balls to answer for his actions and claims.

Secondly, you guys keep talking about the products as if that is the only thing of concern. I have been in this game for around 2 decades and exposed a shitload of scammers; just ask Mugsy(most probably don't even know who that is, lol). So I know what to look for and credibility is the KEY criteria. I also know patterns and I know who this HGHpro guy is. You don't seem to be concerned that he has a past that he is hiding from you. Why would he hide it?

You know, its funny, you guys used to be skeptical as shit of new sources and there have been a ton of scammers coming and going through here. But now all the sudden, because rpbb has some personal agenda against me, you have lost all sense of reason and are sticking up for a known scammer.

 

[muscles275]

Still *you're

I'm quite calm, but you went from nothing in 9 years, to attacking this source baselessly, to attacking me?

Not sure what you think you are accomplishing here besides looking foolish.



@hghpro

Please address all these points. And answer your PMs.

Buddy the YOUR was clearly sarcasm but went right over YOUR head....

Anyway lets agree to disagree as I believe we both have the same goal which is to protect the "community" which includes both our home boards.

I like your bullet points for GH and very curious where he is??? Did his cat have 50 kittens whom he is currently breast feeding??

Also why didnt he go back over to AB yesterday as he stated???

 

[muscles275]

Go back to AB
Who fucking cares about his pictures...That's an AB problem not a meso problem.

You are on Meso so stop bringing your shit into this thread unless it is actually useful.
If he doesn't do something like provide pics on AB, Go bitch in AB.

How are you so close minded that you dont realize its a "COMMUNITY" problem and we are 1 in the same