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[hghpro]

So aside from the videos you posted, do you have any more proof of this hgh factory? I think that's what a lot of the guys are hung up on. The fact you said you owned shares or whatever the case maybe.

I have more video took some yesterday of the freeze drying process what would you suggest.

 

[hghpro]

@hghpro

I've been on the fence about giving you guys a try for awhile, but I'll be honest this circus doesn't look good for you right now.

It's basically show us how good you are, don't tell us. Nothing is going to help you more than no issues + time.

Blood and lab work will certainly expedite that but the very nature of this game calls for heavy scrutiny. This game isn't legal and all the risk is on the buyer. Will what we ordered arrive, will it be what it is advertised as, and if not what are our options from that point.

You aren't a legal operating entity that can be held to some high standard, if shit gets hard you can always just disappear and resurface under a different lab name. The "harassment" and pressure should be constant, so that no source ever gets comfortable, that's how sources exit and vanish with thousands of dollars leaving members with no option but to eat the loss.

If you can't handle this business venture without getting overly emotional and being able to deal with being called a liar, a scammer, a thief, a con-artist, etc... then this isn't for you.

I 100% agree with you on the heavy scrutiny but not harassment of course every source should be scrutinized on products customer service etc it serves a purpose but constant namecalling and nonsense serves no purpose that i can see do you think it is incorrect to look at it like that

 

[muscle96ss]

Cool your jets, and calm down. If your replies keep looking like this, you're mgoingbtonhave a big problem here. I was calling out muscle,because he has a history of coming over here and stirring shit up any time anything costs him money over at pro muscle. He's a complete and total fraud. As far As Mr suit is concerned, stay as far away from him as you can. You don't have to take this advice, don't give a shit if you do

As usual you are clueless. Maybe you should talk to mands before spewing your bullshit. You have no idea anything about me or about the situation. If you truly care about people getting scammed then either stay out of it or do some research before you make yourself look bad. You, of all people, should be smart enough to see through this guy's shit. I did not come here until my name was brought into this on this board. Trust me, you don't have to worry; I don't have time to spend on the boards and have no plans on being active anytime in the near future except when in circumstances where biting my tongue doesn't work.

 

[NorthMich]

I came to this forum recently after looking at others. This is the forum you want an audience with, as you’ve stated yourself.

My outside objective perspective leads me to this advice - I would stop replying to, and even acknowledging any bickering. Be like a computer. Let someone call you a fuckwad. Address it clinically if you have to.

I’m very interested in your company. I like the lab shots and video, as I came from a lab like that years ago. I want to read about your products, the test results, opinions on customer service.

The rest is not worth you replying to and degrading an otherwise excellent thread.

 

[picholas]

I 100% agree with you on the heavy scrutiny but not harassment of course every source should be scrutinized on products customer service etc it serves a purpose but constant namecalling and nonsense serves no purpose that i can see do you think it is incorrect to look at it like that

It might not serve you -- the source any purpose, but it serves the potential buyers a service. If it makes people constantly think twice about ordering from you which in turn doesn't allow you to get comfortable.

The harassment and name calling is part of the scrutinizing process, and how the source handles being harassed is a reflection of how that source will act when the inevitable problems do arise.

 

[hghpro]

I came to this forum recently after looking at others. This is the forum you want an audience with, as you’ve stated yourself.

My outside objective perspective leads me to this advice - I would stop replying to, and even acknowledging any bickering. Be like a computer. Let someone call you a fuckwad. Address it clinically if you have to.

I’m very interested in your company. I like the lab shots and video, as I came from a lab like that years ago. I want to read about your products, the test results, opinions on customer service.

The rest is not worth you replying to and degrading an otherwise excellent thread.

I appreciate your advice thank you

 

[rpbb]

As usual you are clueless. Maybe you should talk to mands before spewing your bullshit. You have no idea anything about me or about the situation. If you truly care about people getting scammed then either stay out of it or do some research before you make yourself look bad. You, of all people, should be smart enough to see through this guy's shit. I did not come here until my name was brought into this on this board. Trust me, you don't have to worry; I don't have time to spend on the boards and have no plans on being active anytime in the near future except when in circumstances where biting my tongue doesn't work.

Gtfo, we can handle our business here just fine, without the shills from pm sticking their nose in it

 

[hghpro]

It might not serve you -- the source any purpose, but it serves the potential buyers a service. If it makes people constantly think twice about ordering from you which in turn doesn't allow you to get comfortable.

The harassment and name calling is part of the scrutinizing process, and how the source handles being harassed is a reflection of how that source will act when the inevitable problems do arise.

I appreciate your perspective even though i disagree with it because i dont see name calling constructive in any way nor would it stop a shitty source from being shitty or turning shitty I guess i could see one way it might be productive and that is if a source was truly only planning on staying a short time or pulling an exit scam as they say it might speed it up and save some people from ordering after source turned bad but that isnt us and i know it makes no difference that i say that we will have to prove it and if that is what it takes so be it we will be around to see the ones who doubted us be wrong and that is satisfaction enough to put up with it like i said even though i disagree i respect your opinion

 

[Trena100]

I don’t believe if he was a scammer he would be going out of his way and helping other members including myself that got scammed by another source, he went out of his way and helped me out for no charge, I would not expect anyone to do that for me, and it sure doesn’t seem like something a scammer would do.

 

[muscle96ss]

Gtfo, we can handle our business here just fine, without the shills from pm sticking their nose in it

You make absolutely no sense; this has nothing to do with PM and I have not even been active on PM for well over a year. Like I said; you are going to make yourself look foolish. If you truly give a shit about your community then don't let your personal feelings cloud your judgement.

 

[rpbb]

You make absolutely no sense; this has nothing to do with PM and I have not even been active on PM for well over a year. Like I said; you are going to make yourself look foolish. If you truly give a shit about your community then don't let your personal feelings cloud your judgement.

Gtfo and go shill somewhere else, every time you come to this board, all you bring is shit

 

[muscle96ss]

I don’t believe if he was a scammer he would be going out of his way and helping other members including myself that got scammed by another source, he went out of his way and helped me out for no charge, I would not expect anyone to do that for me, and it sure doesn’t seem like something a scammer would do.

Its exactly what a smart con artist would do and what he has done before under different scammer handles. I am not some newbie and have seen literally hundreds of scams over the decades. Its all about suckering you in and making you believe; then he's got you.

 

[picholas]

@hghpro You don't have to agree with me, but you're the source not a buyer. I am telling you this is how the majority if not all of the potential clientele you are trying to reach feel. By having you constantly on edge things like delayed shipping times, over selling stock, lack of communication, etc... won't get swept under the rug.

It helps in the sense that if you did ever try to pull an exit scam, the least amount of people would be effected due to total transparency.

@Trena100 RnR was shipping people bonus goodies and helping people out before he scammed everyone. No source is giving away free gear out of the kindness of their hearts. It's a marketing strategy knowing that you will talk about it and boost confidence and trust in the source. Give away $200 in goods to get $2000 more in sales. It's basically seduction.

 

[muscle96ss]

Gtfo and go shill somewhere else, every time you come to this board, all you bring is shit

You are the one bringing shit, not me. You have not brought and facts, insight, or anything positive to the thread. You are simply standing up for a source based on nothing but a personal vendetta you have with have. Why don't you take your personal feelings out of the equation and look at things objectively?

 

[hghpro]

@hghpro You don't have to agree with me, but you're the source not a buyer. I am telling you this is how the majority if not all of the potential clientele you are trying to reach feel. By having you constantly on edge things like delayed shipping times, over selling stock, lack of communication, etc... won't get swept under the rug.

It helps in the sense that if you did ever try to pull an exit scam, the least amount of people would be effected due to total transparency.

@Trena100 RnR was shipping people bonus goodies and helping people out before he scammed everyone. No source is giving away free gear out of the kindness of their hearts. It's a marketing strategy knowing that you will talk about it and boost confidence and trust in the source. Give away $200 in goods to get $2000 more in sales. It's basically seduction.

I am not saying you shouldnt look at it like that but its not always the case not everyone is out to get people and screw them over again i know it will have to be proven but not everyone is the bad guy Also there were not any delayed shipping times only delayed couriers just to be clear everyone who got stuck waiting a few more days to a weeks or so extra was given tracking within 72hrs once it leaves us we can not control it however when we learn of a problem we can take steps to fix it like we did by changing shipping and the problem was solved.Just clarifying what happened not arguing with you and hope you don t take it that way

 

[picholas]

Not at all, honestly if you just keep your cool and I see some good IGF scores soon I'll bite the bullet myself and place an order. But I am just saying, just be agreeable and willing to receive criticism both constructive and abusive. Make changes and adjustments as needed. Also if you have to engage members, always take the moral high ground. No planes! LOL

 

[rpbb]

You are the one bringing shit, not me. You have not brought and facts, insight, or anything positive to the thread. You are simply standing up for a source based on nothing but a personal vendetta you have with have. Why don't you take your personal feelings out of the equation and look at things objectively?

Yeah, just like the facts and insight you brought to Dr j and mands testing thread. You exposed yourself in that thread as a shill for pm, and will never be forgiven for that. Now crawl back to your paid source board at pm shill

 

[rpbb]

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You are the one bringing shit, not me. You have not brought and facts, insight, or anything positive to the thread. You are simply standing up for a source based on nothing but a personal vendetta you have with have. Why don't you take your personal feelings out of the equation and look at things objectively?

Btw, not standing up for this source, telling you we can handle our business over here just fine with pm shills like you sticking your nose into it

 

[hghpro]

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Btw, not standing up for this source, telling you we can handle our business over here just fine with pm shills like you sticking your nose into it

Shows what I know I thought he was from anabolic board

 

[hghpro]

Not at all, honestly if you just keep your cool and I see some good IGF scores soon I'll bite the bullet myself and place an order. But I am just saying, just be agreeable and willing to receive criticism both constructive and abusive. Make changes and adjustments as needed. Also if you have to engage members, always take the moral high ground. No planes! LOL

Understood thanks for the advice like I said we are new around here and it might take us a minute to figure out how u guys operate but we will always do our best to do right by you guys