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I changed my mind, if you want to suck up to muscle, that's your busines, keep me out of it
I don't need to suck up to anyone. I don't know the guy from a hole in the wall. However I do know Ben. Ben says he knows muscle so I take his word for it for now. I mean he does have a point when they request pictures of something you own you should be able to provide it then, right?
There are points to both sides that I can understand. I'm really 50/50 right now since I can't confirm info on either side but both make valid points. Right now I'm 51/49 on all this being true only because, even if it's just a hunch it takes a lot for members to jump boards to warn others. Unless there's a hidden agenda which I don't think there is.
So unless you know something I don't I think we'd all appreciate it if you'd stop disrespecting me along with other members like I mentioned before.
Not to be a dick to you and fall in the group with the rest of everyone else, who continuously fights with you but could you actually do what you said you would and sit back and let it be vetted.
And no I won't "ignore" you because that's sweating problems under the table. I'd rather make you a teammate then an enemy.
 
I don't need to suck up to anyone. I don't know the guy from a hole in the wall. However I do know Ben. Ben says he knows muscle so I take his word for it for now. I mean he does have a point when they request pictures of something you own you should be able to provide it then, right?
There are points to both sides that I can understand. I'm really 50/50 right now since I can't confirm info on either side but both make valid points. Right now I'm 51/49 on all this being true only because, even if it's just a hunch it takes a lot for members to jump boards to warn others. Unless there's a hidden agenda which I don't think there is.
So unless you know something I don't I think we'd all appreciate it if you'd stop disrespecting me along with other members like I mentioned before.
Not to be a dick to you and fall in the group with the rest of everyone else, who continuously fights with you but could you actually do what you said you would and sit back and let it be vetted.
And no I won't "ignore" you because that's sweating problems under the table. I'd rather make you a teammate then an enemy.
My only point is that the members here vet this source. Muscle has an agenda and is not to be trusted
 
You wanna talk about accusations. What about the one you just made? Bring proof that Muscle or Ben have and agenda.
I don't have to, I go by the behavior hes shown at this board and pro muscle for the last several years. I'll never trust him after the stuff he pulled in the mands and Dr j testing thread. Not to mention the joke of a testing program he ran at pro muscle. Like i said, if you want to man crush of the shill, go ahead.
 
My only point is that the members here vet this source. Muscle has an agenda and is not to be trusted

And what exactly is my agenda? It's funny, anytime anybody says anything positive about a source; they are automatically considered a shill for that source. You have accused me of being a shill for a ton of sources thus far; thats what you do. Instead of actually having a discussion and examining the details and facts; you label someone a shill and discount everything that person says. So, whatever I say, you simply label me a shill and that think that automatically means you don't have deal with the facts and details of whats being discussed. Its the pussy way out of any debate. Why don't you try posting facts instead of acting like a little chicken shit bitch who can't support a single thing he writes. Maybe that works in your little world, but when it comes to science you need to back up everything you say.
 
And what exactly is my agenda? It's funny, anytime anybody says anything positive about a source; they are automatically considered a shill for that source. You have accused me of being a shill for a ton of sources thus far; thats what you do. Instead of actually having a discussion and examining the details and facts; you label someone a shill and discount everything that person says. So, whatever I say, you simply label me a shill and that think that automatically means you don't have deal with the facts and details of whats being discussed. Its the pussy way out of any debate. Why don't you try posting facts instead of acting like a little chicken shit bitch who can't support a single thing he writes. Maybe that works in your little world, but when it comes to science you need to back up everything you say.
Here we go again, you've made your arguments, we'll take it from here
 
It would be impossible to bait and switch jins and most other things we carry sir the first member that received the gig would be up I for one would be fine if every Damn kit was tested I know that won't happen but I see nothing wrong in being confident in our products now our kits I'm sure it could be done but why anyone who ventures into this business is far better off providing good products at a fair price over a long period vs selling shitty products for a short period of time and the reason we want the testing is to prove our products to the members we don't need proof we test them all the time and I'm sure this is another thing I'm just not acustom to get but I don't understand why we had members saying it was a good thing we wanted testing but now all of the sudden its a bad thing. I thought this board was all about testing sponsors products

If you are so confident about your products then let them speak for themselves.

Why don't you stop harassing members posting at them nonstop to post TD's.

Dropping names of accounts who placed orders who may not want others to know is pretty fucked up as well. I can't remember if that happened, but I think someone mentioned you did that.
 
I definitely am waiting on how this plays out. I have always found @muscle96ss to be credible. I know what most of the guys here have gone through with him and understand their positions, the backing of jano in the whole @mands issue comes to mind. And I've seen a lot of arguments over the grey tops and what not.

Time will tell. If @hghpro really wanted to he could squash the whole debate by providing the proof requested. Imagine that, if you could stand up to @biggerben69 and @muscle96ss vetting, it would be as good as an endorsement on their part. At least in my eyes.

But I'm not a true meso member, at least not like a lot of the vets here. I consider ab my home board. I have been gravitating towards meso lately due to the site format(its just much more advanced compared to ab), and a lot of the guys here are stand up guys. Not to mention the sources I use are here.
 
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Biggerben and muscle are right.

It never even occurred to me this could be a bait and switch.
I disagree, I think it's more made up bullshit, and even if it is true, they wouldn't have a clue. There's no evidence of that in any of their posts, just a lot of long winded bullshit. It was the same tactic muscle used years ago, when attacking drj in his testing thread. Let the vetting process continue
 
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