HELP HGH GYNO

[RicoSuave12]

Hey guys I am desperate for some help right now

So I started some hgh a few months ago and I was getting great results no problem, then a few weeks ago I I took a break bc of traveling and gained some body fat since then over the holidays. I am really eager to get back on and was gonna do my first cycle of test in a few months with the hgh.

The problem now is I noticed both my nipples were super puffy and I think I can feel some lumps. But I have felt zero itching/burning no tenderness at all. I mean I have to really dig to find the lumps and I think I have always had them? Like a small soapy like gland right under the middle of each nip.


I have some aromisan, letro, nolva and clomid at the house that I was saving for my first cycle here in a little while but I want to know if I should put off the cycle and use some of it to clear up the gyno. Only thing is if it hgh induced gyno I have no idea how I should combat it. Will fighting the estrogen even help??


I hope I'm not being paranoid and I wonder if it's just body fat. I was doing a pretty dirty bulk and I have put on a lot of weight. And since the holidays have not been in the gym as much and definitely added plain fat.

I want to get this shit figured out and cycle some test here in a few months. I plan on doing a much needed cut until then and maybe that will help clear some of the fat up. Should I take some letro or aromasin while I'm cutting??

Do any of you guys remember your nips being just really puffy when you were a fat ass? This is the fattest I have ever been and I'm wondering if I am just being paranoid.

I'll upload a pick so y'all can see what I'm talking about.


Thanks guys so much for any responses.

 

[RicoSuave12]

Here's some more shots, this feels gay as fuck lol but I am desperate for some opinions and some help. The thing that makes me think it's not just fat and somethings wrong is that my left one is a little worse than the right

 

[ickyrica]

Would you mind taking some pics while you pinch them? It's a scientific thing...

 

[mands]

I love when the trolls come in. Go on a diet and quit all PED’s.

Bloodwork? I’ll answer that... Nope!

mands

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Here's some more shots, this feels gay as fuck lol but I am desperate for some opinions and some help. The thing that makes me think it's not just fat and somethings wrong is that my left one is a little worse than the right

Ok...what im also going to need you to do is this.

Get a tall mirror preferably a whole body mirror. Take off your pants. Tuck your pp in between your legs. Make sure it splits both nuts clean down the middle for aesthetic purposes. Turn around in provided mirror. Bend over like your looking to pick some thing up. Now snap a pic for me. Show that labia off boy. Dirty asshole n all. Gimme some thing i can use!!!

 

[Ironlyfe80]

Your hgh is probably hcg

 

[DragoT]

Even if the substance is HCG (which is easy to check with $5.00 test strips from local store), how would it cause gyno? Estrogen grows breast tissue, HCG have nothing to do with it. Remember women on anavar (DHT derivative) - first thing to be gone are the babies. DHT is Estrogen antagonist...

@RicoSuave12 Go get blood work, man. Tomorrow!

 

[Ironlyfe80]

A simple Google search can explain to you how hcg can cause estrogen issues, especially with over use, as in thinking it's hgh.

 

[DragoT]

I did not said HCG administered as HGH protocol (5,000 IU reconstituted with 1ml BAC resulting of 500IU per alleged 1IU HGH) will not cause issue overall.

My statement was "HCG itself does not grows breast tissue". The "side effects" do.

Serum estradiol after single dose hCG administration correlates with Leydig cell reserve in hypogonadal men: reassessment of the hCG stimulation test. - PubMed - NCBI

"The hCG stimulation test with assessment of serum testosterone (T) is used for evaluation of testicular function. This retrospective study was undertaken to estimate the diagnostic value of stimulated estradiol (E2) levels in the assessment of Leydig cell function. Serum T and E2 before and after repeated daily hCG injections in 23 adult men with clinically suspected or established primary hypogonadism were studied. After hCG administration serum T increased gradually with peak levels after 72 hours (delta84%, p=0.003). In contrast, serum E2 concentrations reached their maximal levels 24 hours after the first injection (delta168%, p=0.001). Serum T and E2 responses were more attenuated in men with LH > or =17 IU/L as compared to men with lower LH levels. Peak E2 levels after 24 hours correlated significantly with peak T levels after 3 days. We conclude that the increase in serum E2 levels 24 hours after a single hCG injection is an useful additional measure of Leydig cell function. Assessment of E2 increments would render the test procedure more practical, less time-consuming and more cost-effective than assessing peak T levels after 72 hours."

This is why whatever OP is doing must be stopped immediately and blood must be drawn ASAP to access the situation.

I have an with the original statement, thou. There are two weeks of "holidays" around Christmas. There is no way fro two weeks to "gained some body fat since then over the holidays." And... to grow bitch tits over 14 days.

Something else is going on.

 

[RicoSuave12]

Your hgh is probably hcg

The hgh is good it's from PD, I was just concerned that maybe it was interacting with progesterone receptors because I've read that it is possible I just don't know if I should take anything for that.


Thank you guys for all the srs responses and I realize I really need to get bloods done before I go and take anything else. I'm gonna go when I get a chance here in the next few days.

But for future reference, say that I have slight gyno that's not getting better or worse as long as my blood work numbers are normal, will taking letro or something help shrink it up?? Bc I have only heard of it helping guys while on cycle, is there anything to take for progesterone receptors so that I can safely run hgh?


And @DragoT when I say my eating went to shit it's was since around thanksgiving through a few days ago so it's been a little over a month.

 

[DragoT]

Look, lets say you are 200LB. 2% fat increase would be 4lb of white fat. This is physiologically impossible for this short period of time. It is hard for me to believe what you show on the picture is a result of one month dirty diet.

I'd say this is been going on for a long time and you're tap dancing (no offense) around the issue now hoping to find a way to fix it instead of looking for root cause.

 

[RicoSuave12]

Look, lets say you are 200LB. 2% fat increase would be 4lb of white fat. This is physiologically impossible for this short period of time. It is hard for me to believe what you show on the picture is a result of one month dirty diet.

I'd say this is been going on for a long time and you're tap dancing (no offense) around the issue now hoping to find a way to fix it instead of looking for root cause.

Yeah man I got you I was just making sure I wasn't being paranoid over nothing. I think I might have a little bit of puberty gyno that I just never noticed before. I've been on hgh for around 3 months so far and I just now noticed it. I'm not saying that it is the cause it could be a combination of a few different things. Thanks man

 

[mands]

I'd say this is been going on for a long time and you're tap dancing (no offense) around the issue now hoping to find a way to fix it instead of looking for root cause.

Bingo bango bongo!!!

mands

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Look, lets say you are 200LB. 2% fat increase would be 4lb of white fat. This is physiologically impossible for this short period of time. It is hard for me to believe what you show on the picture is a result of one month dirty diet.

I'd say this is been going on for a long time and you're tap dancing (no offense) around the issue now hoping to find a way to fix it instead of looking for root cause.

There is so much wrong with this im not sure where to begin. But for the record, if youre 200lbs and and it's ALL fat, then yes, 2% would equal 4lbs of fat...and youre definitely not human..

 

[DragoT]

Hmm... say a person is 200lb, and Body Fat is 20%. This equals 160lb lean mass and 40lb fat (white and visceral). If 30 days later said person (still) weight 200lb, but BF is now 22%, this means lean mass is now 156lb, whereas BF is 44lb.

If the new weight was 204lb, but BF still 20%, lean mass would be 163.2lb, and BF - 40.8lb and so on.

It is a crude example and I used it just make a point this is not the case - simply not possible for this time frame.

This logic is sampled from the way FitBit represents it's scale measurements. Here is an example I found on Internet.



I would love to hear where did I go wrong.

 

[mands]

Hmm... say a person is 200lb, and Body Fat is 20%. This equals 160lb lean mass and 40lb fat (white and visceral). If 30 days later said person (still) weight 200lb, but BF is now 22%, this means lean mass is now 156lb, whereas BF is 44lb.

If the new weight was 204lb, but BF still 20%, lean mass would be 163.2lb, and BF - 40.8lb and so on.

It is a crude example and I used it just make a point this is not the case - simply not possible for this time frame.

This logic is sampled from the way FitBit represents it's scale measurements. Here is an example I found on Internet.

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I would love to hear where did I go wrong.

I grasped what you were getting out but the way you worded the sentence(also left out details)it looked strange.

mands

 

[DragoT]

Sorry, English is my 4th language. Still learning.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Your original comment is void of any reference to body fat percentage of the 200lb man - but rather 2% multiplied by 2 = 4%. Perhaps that was what confused me.

 

[bob hughes]

Hgh can definitely cause, or aggravate pre-existing, gyno in certain individuals. I don't think serms or AI would have any effect on it if this is in fact the cause. In the little research I've done on it, I think stopping the GH would be the only or best option. But as mentioned you need to have complete labs done, otherwise you just taking a shot in the dark and if it was me I wouldn't be fucking around with gyno

 

[RicoSuave12]

So hey this is probably a dumb question but I should just get a male hormone blood panel done right? Or should I get a female? I have seen on here were you should get female test done because it shows more things but since I am just trying to make sure my shit is normal for a male then I should be good to do male huh? Thanks peeps