Help me choose, Hygenepharma Blacktop Hygetropin, or Grey Tops from the Provider?

[demonxp]

I want to stay clear of regular generics, preferring to buy real Hygetropin or Rips. MB had a source for Hyges but the mill is closed. He seems like a really honest guy who will listen and help his customers to the best of his abilities. He gave me two sources Homer and the Provider. Homer is supposed to have good rips and kefei, but it's hard to get a response from him, it looks like he's as backed up as our Astro. The Provider came back with a response fast, the answer isn't what I wanted to hear. No rips for a couple months until he gets a new shipment. He does have Generic Grey Tops? Has anyone used his greys and can confirm their quality?

I do have one more source that nobody has any useful information about. Dr Anabolics blacktopHygetropin from Hygenepharma he has a pretty good promo going on 100iu Hygetropin for $194 if I buy 5 kits. Anyone can confirm the quality of this new Hygetropin?

Also wanted to note, I would have preferred to buy from MB, his Kefei brand are real, but he only accepts one payment source. The one I don't use anymore since they are collaboration with DHS. But he has helped me alot getting two legit sources. Big props for helping me.

 

[tileguy123]

Man no matter what you do after losing 1k you should be buying one kit max at this point. turning to other members isnt really gunna be the answer. .

sure you want reassurance. put another 1000 on black. spin that wheel

 

[demonxp]

Well I was thinking of buying at least 200 iu upfront. If its legit get more since shipping takes so long to arrive you need a extra month supply.

 

[demonxp]

As much as I want the Genotropin from Pfizer at $200 per 36iu. I'm not financially able to afford that luxury yet. Maybe after I get recruited for Pro Wrestling I may treat myself to pharma and a new truck.

 

[alphastrength50]

there is.no.hyges being made now rest are fakes

 

[demonxp]

So Hygenepharma is fake? I read it's even more potent then Hyges from Hygetropin.com.cn.

PPP sold the old Hygetropin from Hygetropin.com.cn for 360.00 per 200iu

He's selling his new Blacktop Hygetropin for $270 for 100iu

 

[romaleos]

Being that pharma is about three times more effective than generics, meaning you need to take 10iu of generics to get the same effect as 4iu of pharma. Then that would put geno in the same price range as generic. 36iu x 3 effectiveness rating = 108iu.

 

[demonxp]

Being that pharma is about three times more effective than generics, meaning you need to take 10iu of generics to get the same effect as 4iu of pharma. Then that would put geno in the same price range as generic. 36iu x 3 effectiveness rating = 108iu.

Hold up, now that's saying all Generic are created equal. If that's the case Astros Generic Genotropin wouldn't test as well as Pfizer, it would be 1/3 as potent. And those Hyges that tested high 30's like 37,38,39, even a 40 floating around well that's the same as the shit Napsgear.org is peddling around?

 

[ironwill1951]

hygees and rips are generic , they are a waste of money if you cant afford pharma then skip it until you can . you can get seros for around $700 for 126 iu thats a much better buy than buying generic and injecting it for 3 or 4 months waiting for it to kick in and it never does,...

 

[romaleos]

Correct demonxp, all generics are not equal especially the new stuff that Astro and Karl are advertising. But the jury is still out on those which why they are not included in my generalization.

And as for the high serum tests from other stuff, honestly that is beyond me. Do not take my word for it but from all the research I have done, legit pharma serums come back in the low to mid twenties and all the anecdotal evidence proves that pharma is king.

Now the high serum results from those generics could be guys blasting 20iu for their tests or what most of them are taking is actually 192aa GH which is not intended for human consumption. So you may get high serums but it is clinically ineffective in the human body. But what do I know, I am in the same boat as you. Just another bro trying to use common sense and what little intelligence the Creator gave me.

 

[ironwill1951]

here is the thing demonxp the chinese are really a clever bunch they can successfully fake just about anything, designer hand bags clothing rolex watches ect ect they can certainly make fake gh without spending millions on a real lab... i have bought generic in the past but it is absolutely nothing like good old usa pharm grade.

 

[hotdog23]

192aa was an FDA approved drug for GH deficient children for years. Was equally effective as recombinant GH. Antibodies to the 192aa were often present but rarely decreased effectiveness. In extremely rare cases an autoimmune condition can develop.

Anything testing in 30's to 40's is overdosed. Period. Pharma tests in mid 20's consistently, because it is consistently 10iu/vial. 191aa is 191aa - US pharma is more consistent, reliable, "cleaner", safer

OP anecdotally the grey tops are fire. Your gonna be waiting awhile for your pack tho. The new taitropin with anti-counterfeit code is hot right now. Testing well.

 

[romaleos]

Thanks for the knowledge hotdog.

 

[demonxp]

All the generics I listed are 191 generics, 192 have 20 minutes of life... their the original HGH formula. it don't exist anymore.

191 is the most common used formula by jyntropin, anosomene, hygetropin, etc...

and have 8h to 12h of life...

all of sources listed above have hundreds of reviews across 3 or 4 boards. Steroidology, SF, SA, here, Evolutionary, Professional Muscle, a UK board etc. I've spent so many hours over the last 4 weeks doing research and after getting ass raped by DHS from Prolabwork.com. I did even more thorough searches joining multiple boards and rummaging thru their crap. What I look for is tests from reputable members on each board, and multiple, hundreds of posts meaning reliability, also small snafus that occur how it was handled by the sources. Now I know here is where the cross roads meet. Many of Vets here have over 10 years experience. People that have seen these guys come up and maybe stumble or straight up able to moderate their forum section to make themselves look good. I'm looking to steer clear of those and get the best bang for my buck. Especially now after loosing $1200.00

 

[demonxp]

Thanks hotdog, the provider said his grey tops were better then his blues, and he's dumping them because his next batch will come with anti counterfeit codes that will work, which will probably bump up the price a bit.

 

[demonxp]

Honest opinion I hope we help each other out more and dry up the businesses of bad sources selling bunk rhgh. We should all work hard and make sure only the few handful sources that sell quality generics get all the business. Even if that means we have to wait a little longer because of demand increase. We need to dry those pimples off the face of existence.

 

[demonxp]

here is the thing demonxp the chinese are really a clever bunch they can successfully fake just about anything, designer hand bags clothing rolex watches ect ect they can certainly make fake gh without spending millions on a real lab... i have bought generic in the past but it is absolutely nothing like good old usa pharm grade.

May I ask where did you buy your generics from? Where they listed from any of the above references? I know for sure only 1 of the above referenced hghpower intentionally sold counterfeit Riptropin, he even acknowledged that they were counterfeit, it still tested decent high teens but not mid twenties.
Only thing I read for sure about Pharma brand is less side effects and some especially the real Genotropin have tested in the 40's. I've never seen this myself just hear say. Repeating what I read. I hear Astro saying if its in the 40's it's 20iu not 10. But alot of Hyges are coming back with 37, 38, 39, 40 and 41 readings that I actually got to see the reports on some forums listed above. If they are overdosing Hyges, where the hell do I jump on that train?

 

[hotdog23]

Yes I wanted to go with him but wasn't prepared to wait. **i think ** he has same supplier as HK and those are the same grey tops. IMO- though I don't kno much about it - larger packages will receive more attention in customs... So if ur trying to load up. US domestic is way to go. Good luck bro

 

[demonxp]

Yes I wanted to go with him but wasn't prepared to wait. **i think ** he has same supplier as HK and those are the same grey tops. IMO- though I don't kno much about it - larger packages will receive more attention in customs... So if ur trying to load up. US domestic is way to go. Good luck bro

Usually when I order bulk from a source, they package my order separately and one will arrive one week, another will arrive a week afterwards. I hope HK, and or The Provider will do that

 

[ironwill1951]

yes i have ordered from those sources and they sucked , do you really believe that some hole in the wall lab in china makes better gh that test higher than a multi billion dollar lab like phizer or serono ?