Help With Labs?

[brutus79]

thanks brutus here is what i got:

What were your pre cycle levels? my e2 was in the low 20's running adex .5 e3d. test levels were in the 800's on 150mg cyp ew.

i have been on this cycle for 6 weeks now. dosing has been consistent - Pinned Monday and Friday. as far as AI, ive been running adex EOD, so some days AI fell on the same day as when i pinned.

my last pin before my tests were 13 hours apart @ 500MG. I can follow up on my bloods 2 or so weeks later. my sex drive is in the crapper and feeling very lethargic. i'm 37 years old and have run 6 cycles over the past few years.

I am no doctor but I would

A. Drop the anadrol. It always makes me feel sick (first time running it? If not is it first time running tbol?)

(have you checked your bp?)

B. Take the ai daily for the next ten days and go back to eod 1mg

C. Drop test to 750 a week ( gains will not be noticeably affected from 5000+ vs 6000+)

Report back where you are after a couple weeks. Daily administration of ai for a bit will knock down e2. Check blood pressure as soon as you can to see if bp is contributing to some of your ill feelings.

 

[brutus79]

What Is your experiences and side effects previously running these orals if any?

When I feel like shit during a cycle I know, for me, it isn't test. I fucking love test. The culprit is something I added to make the cycle "better". At the end of the day I would drop everything I never ran in the past and If I felt it completely necessary to run something I would reintroduce it when I felt great again at a lower dose.

 

[brutus79]

What Is your experiences and side effects previously running these orals if any?

When I feel like shit during a cycle I know, for me, it isn't test. I fucking love test. The culprit is something I added to make the cycle "better". At the end of the day I would drop everything I never ran in the past and If I felt it completely necessary to run something I would reintroduce it when I felt great again at a lower dose.

The obvious exception to my "it isn't the testosterone" theory is if I am running test higher than I ever have or if I am having blood pressure issues... hence dropping the test dose and taking bp asap suggestions.

 

[p-lethal]

ive ran tbol in the past with no problems but first time with adrol and this is the highest ive run test as well. im betting it is my BP so i'll take that first thing in the morning.

 

[p-lethal]

BP this morning was 130 / 90

 

[brutus79]

Not terrible... bordeline. Drop the drol, pulse the aI ed like I recommended and see if you are ready to rape hookers again. Anadrol made me feel like shit.

 

[p-lethal]

got it thx bro

 

[dmt31]

you could try using proviron instead of the anadrol. it should help limit the amount of test that is turning into e2 and for sure help your libido. I'm looking forward to running provi with my trt to see it if is as great as everyone says.

 

[brutus79]

you could try using proviron instead of the anadrol. it should help limit the amount of test that is turning into e2 and for sure help your libido. I'm looking forward to running provi with my trt to see it if is as great as everyone says.

Proviron instead of anadrol? What the fuck does one have to do with the other? While it may help with libido it certainly has none of the anabolic properties of anadrol and you are grossly overstating it's ai properties... you were dick riding proviron in that bullshit valkyrie thread and I am not entirely sure you are not just another handle of his. This guy has real estrogen issues- proviron is not a cure for high e2 (maybe in the 80's and 90's it was... little late to that party).

 

[dmt31]

No, I'm not trying to compare the 2 drugs, sorry if it came across like that. If he's dropping the anadrol, and is having libido problems, provi would be a good choice for him. Of course the AI properties aren't life changing, but it couldn't hurt to use it as it does a good job of inhibiting e2 production and lowers your shbg so you have more free test to use , which again, is a very nice thing to have. He should absolutely keep using his AI, but provi could only help his situation, it can't hurt at all. That was my point.

 

[brutus79]

No, I'm not trying to compare the 2 drugs, sorry if it came across like that. If he's dropping the anadrol, and is having libido problems, provi would be a good choice for him. Of course the AI properties aren't life changing, but it couldn't hurt to use it as it does a good job of inhibiting e2 production and lowers your shbg so you have more free test to use , which again, is a very nice thing to have. He should absolutely keep using his AI, but provi could only help his situation, it can't hurt at all. That was my point.

10-4. Just wanted to be clear.

 

[dmt31]

10-4. Just wanted to be clear.

Oh, and I think you have me mistaken with someone else, I wasn't talking about provi in any thread other than the one I created yesterday. I also didn't get my provi from him, I'm getting it from one of the 2 universally respected sources on this board. I wish I could claim to be a shill for someone, at least I'd have a bunch of cheap gear instead of blowing tons of money on my stockpile lol.

 

[brutus79]

Oh, and I think you have me mistaken with someone else, I wasn't talking about provi in any thread other than the one I created yesterday. I also didn't get my provi from him, I'm getting it from one of the 2 universally respected sources on this board. I wish I could claim to be a shill for someone, at least I'd have a bunch of cheap gear instead of blowing tons of money on my stockpile lol.

My bad then. The proviron is a hot button with me lately... not sure why.

 

[fokai500]

Blazin has no idea... he is a 20 year old who has run maybe a cycle that ended in lactation. He thanks you for making him feel relevant.

What were your pre cycle levels?
How long have you been on this cycle?
Have these dosages been consistent or was there a frontload? If there was a frontload what was that schedule?
What is your pinning schedule vs ai dosing schedule (what days specifically)?
When was your last pin before testing and what amount?
If you adjust ai dose how soon will you follow up with bloods?
What adverse estrogen side effects are you experiencing if any?
What is your age and cycle history?

Blazing- please be quiet before you hurt someone telling them to approach dosages like you do with the guess and wait to see what happens bullshit.

Some of the questions I wanted ask plus more.



"exhaust the body. proceed the mind. cultivate the spirit."

 

[p-lethal]

quick update. just finished up 10 days of 1mg Adex ED and my libido is starting to come back to life. going to hop on .5mg adex ED and have bloods done it two weeks.

 

[brutus79]

quick update. just finished up 10 days of 1mg Adex ED and my libido is starting to come back to life. going to hop on .5mg adex ED and have bloods done it two weeks.

Excellent. Takke the ai at night right before sleep if I didn't mention that. Glad to hear it man!

 

[p-lethal]

gotcha been taking in first thing in the morning, will switch to before sleep. thx for all your help bro and my wife thanks ya too! LOL

 

[brutus79]

gotcha been taking in first thing in the morning, will switch to before sleep. thx for all your help bro and my wife thanks ya too! LOL

Anytime. Let us know lab results... helps everyone who reads this stuff my friend. If your joints start to hurt or you start getting lethargic cut down on the ai- otherside we will see your numbers with the current protocol.