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If your gut is telling you not to order from this source, then don't. There is no reason to be in a hurry. You could just monitor this thread for 3 months or so. By then there would be more feedback from new members.

It seems like you want continuous feedback from vertern members. They already tried the samples of the gear earlier in this thread and they gave their opinions about it. After their people finish using those samples, they most likely return to using gear from their regularly trusted source.

Somewhere along the line you are going to have to take a risk with someone. There are no guarantees in this game. Here is a hint, spread the $450 dollar risk among multiple sources.

The quote above was originally posted on July 31, 2013.
It didn't quite take 3 months for the shit to hit the fan with this source.
 
Noah k : I have gained about 5 pounds and lifts have the gym have went up some but not noticing much size
cheers! seems to be the consensus. Perhaps I save it for a light use in the distant future, and up the dose to 650/wk or so without expectations for anything massive (har har har). Good luck with yours, hope the bloods are a bit more optimistic! [|)]
 
If your gut is telling you not to order from this source, then don't. There is no reason to be in a hurry. You could just monitor this thread for 3 months or so. By then there would be more feedback from new members.

It seems like you want continuous feedback from vertern members. They already tried the samples of the gear earlier in this thread and they gave their opinions about it. After their people finish using those samples, they most likely return to using gear from their regularly trusted source.

Somewhere along the line you are going to have to take a risk with someone. There are no guarantees in this game. Here is a hint, spread the $450 dollar risk among multiple sources.
The quote above was originally posted on July 31, 2013.
It didn't quite take 3 months for the shit to hit the fan with this source.

Good advise, even if I didn't read it when you posted it. I did spread my purchases out to 4 different ugls. The 2 I got from this site were Herc and AMA. AMA is turning out to be OK (their Mast at least), and I will post BW in a few weeks if anyone is interested. I bought from Herc early with the idea it would come from the same batch used for vet samples, and that later stuff would be more suspect. It was still a small loss overall.

My one regret is only buying Test C from Herc. I thought I had "plenty" of pharma grade Test C from my TRT program. Now I'm low on Test C and waiting for more from BL.
 
My roommate has been running his cyp as well, same dates too. Even at what should be 500mg/mL, he's unhappy with it for his TRT. He says he doesn't believe it's working.

I could easily tell if it was real from TRT, @ 2 weeks after shot I start losing a bit of size and gain a bit of fat, pure Grapeseed would tend to do that, though TRT I believe it best administered more often than that, I like every week but for me doesn't make much difference, but that's just me.
 
Good advise, even if I didn't read it when you posted it. I did spread my purchases out to 4 different ugls. The 2 I got from this site were Herc and AMA. AMA is turning out to be OK (their Mast at least), and I will post BW in a few weeks if anyone is interested. I bought from Herc early with the idea it would come from the same batch used for vet samples, and that later stuff would be more suspect. It was still a small loss overall.

My one regret is only buying Test C from Herc. I thought I had "plenty" of pharma grade Test C from my TRT program. Now I'm low on Test C and waiting for more from BL.

Yeah, some of these "NEW" ugls usually have two runs set up. One run is just a straight oil run without any hormone. They usually save this after they gain peoples trust. The second smaller run has hormone mixed in with the oil. This is the one they send to the vets. I agree if you got in early enough you should have gotten good gear like the vets did.

I have seen most of this stuff happen over at ER. Some sources over there send a variety of mixed gear. For example, one bottle of test prop works great and the next bottle doesn't and all within the same order. They even get the
real stuff mixed up with the fake stuff.

I am glad you did the right thing by spreading out your orders and ordering minimum quantities from each ugl. This method usually turns up some good gear out of all these unknowns.
 
I regrettably ordered a bunch of gear from Herc (Test prop, D-Bol, Mast, & EQ). First the dbol was no questions asked bunk!! Right now I'm on Test P 100mg ED and EQ 300mg E3D. There is no doubt in my mind that there is some hormones in there but at what dose who knows. I planned to use all the Test P for TRT but not sure I will bc the dose is totally unknown.
Just wanted to throw in my experience with Herc. I truly want to believe Herc is legit but it was too good to be true. The fact that he was slinging total shit for d-bol is enough to write the douche bag off
 
I was one of hercs biggest advocates that I believed what happened was not intentional! That he got to big to fast and things happened! That said I pm him and e mailed him 3 days ago and nothing! Not sure what that means but I got a good idea! It is what it is!!
 
I was one of hercs biggest advocates that I believed what happened was not intentional! That he got to big to fast and things happened! That said I pm him and e mailed him 3 days ago and nothing! Not sure what that means but I got a good idea! It is what it is!!

Send a few emails. Sometimes you read one, and you plan to get back to it in 5 minutes when you get down with a sandwich (or whatever) and then you forget you ever even read the email.

I'm not backing him up, I'm just saying try a few more times, then we will know for sure if he is ignoring you or not. Maybe try a different email addy to see if he isn't receiving from your current email server.
 
It would also help to know (if of course even he knows, how much it might be underdosed) if there's anything at all but oil. At least you could adjust your dosage.
 
I just logged onto his site he is ignoring you man, he is restocked with prop and test e that he didn't have a couple days ago. He is probably selling to unsuspecting people that gained his trust and don't frequent this site.
 
It would also help to know (if of course even he knows, how much it might be underdosed) if there's anything at all but oil. At least you could adjust your dosage.

Sorry for the double post but I can assure you without a doubt there is oil and BA and BB in his shit because the PIP is gnarly and maybe some hormone who knows.
-Jets
 
Sorry for the double post but I can assure you without a doubt there is oil and BA and BB in his shit because the PIP is gnarly and maybe some hormone who knows.
-Jets

There as to be a sertine amount of hormones in it because of the gains I have notice I made as well has the people that see me every day.... Also I got shut down when I was kick starting it with Dbol, I had no urge of sex even when in the gym seeing a hella fit women in front of me bending over stretching, I thought that's nice, but no fantasy popped up in my head like normal... Lol
 
There as to be a sertine amount of hormones in it because of the gains I have notice I made as well has the people that see me every day.... Also I got shut down when I was kick starting it with Dbol, I had no urge of sex even when in the gym seeing a hella fit women in front of me bending over stretching, I thought that's nice, but no fantasy popped up in my head like normal... Lol

That's weird to me, dbol with test sends my libido through the roof.
As soon as I stop the dbol it calms down a little.
 
That's weird to me, dbol with test sends my libido through the roof.
As soon as I stop the dbol it calms down a little.

Hmm I got shut down and I was bloated like a women on her period... I also did not have any al on board, I not sure if that is why are not....
 
There as to be a sertine amount of hormones in it because of the gains I have notice I made as well has the people that see me every day.... Also I got shut down when I was kick starting it with Dbol, I had no urge of sex even when in the gym seeing a hella fit women in front of me bending over stretching, I thought that's nice, but no fantasy popped up in my head like normal... Lol

My libido fell like a stone on his test c.
 
I should of put this part in: the time I did shut down was during my kick start with Dbol, after wards I had a hard time trying to not wanting to tear it up all day long...

Mine may have been from too little test with too much adex. Things are back to normal now. I figure Herc still owes me for an expensive dinner, though, one that ended in a fucking disaster. That is, a disaster with no fucking...
 
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