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[Manzoitaly]

It is the viscosity of the carrier oil that extends the half life of the compound slightly. This does not negate the ester. Your statement said that all the other carrier oils are only good for daily injections and this is an incorrect and false statement.
Using MCT will not change a Cypionate ester into a propionate ester.

If your going to come in here a shill for a shitty source and call the members stupid first make sure that your are not an uneducated ignorant fool youself
I brew my own gear in my oils of choice and have very consistent blood work that shows the release of the compound into my blood over time on longer esters
As a brewer I could very easily brew in castor oil if it made a difference I would. The difference is minimal and does not play a major role. The oil is extremely thick as well.

For BETTER GAINS are better, for libido are better. The difference is real. I use testoviron, norma from greece, i use ugl deus, driada( very very good) . But the slowly release are better.
With ugl i use 1ml syringe with needle 30gauge 25 mm( yes, i have this ) i pin every day... my gains and my dick are more more more better.

 

[baxter0312]

well the extension is significant, but whether that's better or not depends on what you want lol.

 

[Manzoitaly]

I am normal people, like you and other. Hahahah, i write my story and my feedback from gear. If you want , you can listen me. I don't have money or free gear from source hahahah.

I like driada, i like his oil, the gains... but libido and erection is different , my dick change with eod /ed pin , less water. Without AI.

 

[baxter0312]

For BETTER GAINS are better, for libido are better. The difference is real. I use testoviron, norma from greece, i use ugl deus, driada( very very good) . But the slowly release are better.
With ugl i use 1ml syringe with needle 30gauge 25 mm( yes, i have this ) i pin every day... my gains and my dick are more more more better.

I am normal people, like you and other. Hahahah, i write my story and my feedback from gear. If you want , you can listen me. I don't have money or free gear from source hahahah.

I like driada, i like his oil, the gains... but libido and erection is different , my dick change with eod /ed pin , less water. Without AI.

shut up

 

[Manzoitaly]

for me people on this forum only focus on the dosage of the powder, without considering the rest. If a pharmaceutical company, with graduated and cultured people, with years of studies, formulates a drug, with certain excipients and ingredients... there must be a reason, otherwise you think they are stupid for not using mct, gso, eo... ... Let's move on to the orals, studies have been studied and published on each product, on a formula studied with certain excipients in certain dosages. Each pharmacy hgh is different from each other for this reason, anyone sees differences between saizen, genotropin, humatrope. people see difference between Chinese generic, another Chinese generic and the pharmaceutical.

Example of GENOTROPIN
Powder (front compartment): glycine (E640), sodium dihydrogen phosphate anhydrous (E339), sodium phosphate dibasic anhydrous (E339), mannitol (E421). Solvent (rear compartment): water for injections, mannitol (E421), metacresol. As you can see, even water has excipients, they don't use ONLY BACTERIOSTATIC WATER. People focus on the big things, but the difference is in the many small details of pharma

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yeah but it’s not what he saying. Castor oil will extend the half life slightly and can have advantages for longer esters like undecanote, decanoate. But it’s not going to negate the ester or cause better gains.
He is shilling and exaggerating a very small difference. For most brewers the disadvantages of using castor oil out weigh the advantages and for some it does not. But it is personal preference.
I personally don’t brew with castor oil because I don’t like super thick oil. I have a prescription for Test and the carrier is cottonseed. My vials of prescription Test just pile up and I use what I brew in GSO or MCT.

He said that phama Deca is much stronger and better gains because of the carrier oil used and that’s complete bullshit. By his logic NPP would be ineffective and even more ineffective in GSO or MCT. But it’s not true.
Nandrolone is still very much effective with a shorter ester and in carrier oils other than castor

He actually seems like the banned OP himself. All his alt accounts are from 2020 with a low post count. But that’s just a guess on my part.

Yeah but it was just that one study comparing Test U in castor oil vs. tea seed oil. Right?

Is everything else based on that 1 study or are there other studies?



@baxter0312

 

[baxter0312]

The difference might only be significant because tea tree oil has a low viscosity (i searched for a bit and couldn't find something exact, only that it's "low")

Perhaps if the study compared it to grapeseed or peanut oil or something else in the middle the significance wouldn't have been so great

edit: tea seed not tea tree

 

[Manzoitaly]

In this study you can see the big difference for the oil. But this study don't speak about e2 conversion or Dht conversion. The Ester is important, but oil change the game.
in the first period, there is the absorbiment of the oil, in the second period the enzyme work on esters of the raw

 

[baxter0312]

Also pharmaceutical preparations are also designed the way they are with a big emphasis on patient adherence , not necessarily what's "better". Poking yourself in the shoulder every day isn't going to go over so well with the marketing department.

 

[AlexDavis43]

In this study you can see the big difference for the oil. But this study don't speak about e2 conversion or Dht conversion. The Ester is important, but oil change the game.
in the first period, there is the absorbiment of the oil, in the second period the enzyme work on esters of the raw

Right. I found one study to support what I said. Did you find any studies to support your statements? Any studies that directly compare different carrier oils on E2 or DHT conversion? Or just more guessing.

 

[Manzoitaly]

Right. I found one study to support what I said. Did you find any studies to support your statements? Any studies that directly compare different carrier oils on E2 or DHT conversion? Or just more guessing.

I see my blood work, and another blood work of my friend, and many story in this forum o reddit about TESTOVIRON . E2 is in range , anybody use ai in trt with castor oil. If you use American depo testosterone cyp, have half life shorter than testoviron castor oil. There are people on trt ( i am coach for people) with 75mg testoviron for week( 1 pin for week) , total test 700-800 e2 30, for old man i use 75-100 mg test for week..... if people pin castor oil every day, the power is higher than other oil every day.
For me the gains are better if you use :
The long Ester
The castor oil
Less frequency pin possible

If you use parabolan( tren hex) have half life longer than tren e( maybe it's 2x), you use castor oil, you pin eod/ed .... your cycle is more powerful, 76,5x3 parabolan in the past was the max for people, old man min the gym use 2 parabolan, to much powerful.
Today minimum 300 tren e hahahaha. If you pin ed your tren e, you see better gains.

 

[Manzoitaly]

we can return the source here, each customer publishes their orders, their reviews. It seems to me that whoever ordered, the order eventually reached everyone. He was banned because he sold benzodiazepines, so he won't do it again. For me he is an excellent source, he responds quickly on telegram, we also have to help a source work and not judge and distrust anyone. I repeat, I hope that one day I will produce Undecanoate in castor oil, because I would like to use it, but nebido costs too much.

 

[goonr]

He was banned because he sold benzodiazepines, so he won't do it again.

we also have to help a source work and not judge and distrust anyone

 

[AlexDavis43]

for me people on this forum only focus on the dosage of the powder, without considering the rest. If a pharmaceutical company, with graduated and cultured people, with years of studies, formulates a drug, with certain excipients and ingredients... there must be a reason, otherwise you think they are stupid for not using mct, gso, eo... ... Let's move on to the orals, studies have been studied and published on each product, on a formula studied with certain excipients in certain dosages. Each pharmacy hgh is different from each other for this reason, anyone sees differences between saizen, genotropin, humatrope. people see difference between Chinese generic, another Chinese generic and the pharmaceutical.

Example of GENOTROPIN
Powder (front compartment): glycine (E640), sodium dihydrogen phosphate anhydrous (E339), sodium phosphate dibasic anhydrous (E339), mannitol (E421). Solvent (rear compartment): water for injections, mannitol (E421), metacresol. As you can see, even water has excipients, they don't use ONLY BACTERIOSTATIC WATER. People focus on the big things, but the difference is in the many small details of pharma

I understand the recipes are probably variable between pharma GH manufacturers.

Do you have any examples of specific additives present in some and absent from others, correlating with a specific effect?

 

[Manzoitaly]

I don't know, only people can know this, they are the man on the pfizer factory hahaha

 

[Liska]

Do you have any examples of specific additives present in some and absent from others, correlating with a specific effect?

We've been over this topic in detail in the HGH subforum (search for some of those excipients and you should find it), concluding that these amounts aren't sufficient to elicit significant effects (and they're not exclusive to HGH so you'd experience said effects from other meds containing them).

Anyways, Hermes was not banned for selling benzos, the devil is in the details and discussing these may be bannable in itself, so I'll not elaborate.

 

[Manzoitaly]

Even if Hermes has been banned, we can still continue talking about him, however the sources that sell pharmagrade are valuable, especially if they offer domestic EU shipping in the future. I'm interested in the UGL line in CASTOR OIL, without ethyl oleate (you know I'm obsessed with carrier oil). Now on the market only Hermes has this product, I'm not a shil, I'm just curious and happy.

 

[Manzoitaly]

These are his janoshik tests, which were missing here, to prove his legitimacy

 

[Bigcountry36]

Hello MESO-rx Fam,

We're entirely new to this forum so apologies if we don't follow some rules, although we did our best to do what others did.

We, at HermesLabs, are a team of professionals who have legal access to pharmacies located in Türkiye, Iran, and a few other EU countries (Prefer not to name for now). Therefore, we will be shipping international.

We have a straightforward and powerful mission at HermesLabs: to deliver optimum quality that will stand out amongst competitors.

To address this, we've looked at our competitors on here and consider their Pharma grade products to be EXTREMELY overpriced for what they actually cost and how widely accessible they are locally.

We are newly joining MESO to expand and offer what others are not able to. We offer to you Bayer Rimabolan and Pfizer Genotropin, as well as Abdi Ibrahim Anapolon in large quantities (thousands currently in stock and ready to ship anywhere in the world). To prove this, we've taken a few pictures two weeks ago (yes, we are aware that some of the Rimabolans are old series, but we will be shipping new series only as they come with extra security, in their original packaging, unless customer asks otherwise). If you want us to post more pictures with new date or signature, we can do that as well. As long as it doesn't reveal any confidential information of ours.

We're also committed to testing this gear through Janoshik, and will be sending some next week. however, we offer to send free samples to you that you can test and get a credit at our store. If the test shows that the product is legit, you only pay for the product, we ship you any gear from our store that is the equivalent of how much you spent on testing. We highly recommend ordering them in original boxes as the new series are harder to fake with QR codes being on the inside of box and you can scan it through the government app to find out whether it's legit or not.

We currently have these in stock and as is known presently, we are the only source to buy Pharma Rimabolan from (in bulk, at a reasonable price, international). We are selling customers Pharma grade products at very affordable prices in whichever quantity you would like:

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[LarryLove]

These are his janoshik tests, which were missing here, to prove his legitimacy

Listen, I had a couple packs land after being skeptical. The price was so incredible I had to get a bunch. But I think there was a shortage at that time. The Rimos seemed real, and batch dates were good 3/2026 not 3/2024, but I didn’t test. Thick. I had to heat them up for a while to get into 27 slin. I look for a few things on Rimos as I have a couple real amps saved to compare to. I couldn’t find real primo until I came to Meso, it was Stan’s. know the Aspen sust was real. I went 1 amp a day for a week and was juiced out of my mind. Felt amazing. Not healthy but had to know. Ankles swolled up like crazy. thought he’d be around longer. I know aspens well. Used to love Karachis when they were around..But these, zero pip. I know it doesn’t mean much now if he’s banned, but Turkish sources are really really nice to have. And the packs were landing. Thats it, my honest opinion.