HGH and Metformin dosage?

[Brockinator]

I’m prediabetic, but I believe HGH would be useful for my goals, and would like to run it some time in the future, I’m thinking 4-5 iu a day.

I keep hearing people recommending Metformin with HGH to keep blood sugar in check and help with avoiding getting diabetes from HGH. With 4-5iu a day, what dosage would you recommend? What about with 1-3iu a day or 4-5iu eod?
Where can I find more info on this?

Am I correct in my assumption that a normal dose of Metformin should be ran with any of the above hgh protocols?

Is hgh objectively good to run with Metformin for this reason?

Also what would you do as a pre diabetic who wanted to run hgh, to avoid having it worsen your condition?

 

[Ateam2023]

I’m prediabetic, but I believe HGH would be useful for my goals, and would like to run it some time in the future, I’m thinking 4-5 iu a day.

I keep hearing people recommending Metformin with HGH to keep blood sugar in check and help with avoiding getting diabetes from HGH. With 4-5iu a day, what dosage would you recommend? What about with 1-3iu a day or 4-5iu eod?
Where can I find more info on this?

Am I correct in my assumption that a normal dose of Metformin should be ran with any of the above hgh protocols?

Is hgh objectively good to run with Metformin for this reason?

Also what would you do as a pre diabetic who wanted to run hgh, to avoid having it worsen your condition?

Theres some good info on metformin if you use the " search function" located in upper right corner of this forum near your username,, Good luck on "Your Research ", ,

 

[BigTomJ]

Let's start with;
why are your fasted bg readings in the prediabetic range?

 

[UncleBuns]

Can you give more info about being pre-diabetic? Do you know your A1C and your average morning fasted glucose? What does your diet and nutrition look like? The first thing I would do before trying HGH is sort out any reversible causes of pre-diabetes.

If you're pre-diabetic because of poor lifestyle and nutrition choices, then you are unlikely to act accordingly while taking GH. You're already susceptible to blood glucose issues and taking GH will accelerate you into diabetes. That's not worth it. If you're pre-diabetic for some other reasons though then that's worth exploring. Metformin cannot overcome bad choices, excess calorie intake, excess body fat, poor meal timing, etc.

 

[Ateam2023]

I’m prediabetic, but I believe HGH would be useful for my goals, and would like to run it some time in the future, I’m thinking 4-5 iu a day.

I keep hearing people recommending Metformin with HGH to keep blood sugar in check and help with avoiding getting diabetes from HGH. With 4-5iu a day, what dosage would you recommend? What about with 1-3iu a day or 4-5iu eod?
Where can I find more info on this?

Am I correct in my assumption that a normal dose of Metformin should be ran with any of the above hgh protocols?

Is hgh objectively good to run with Metformin for this reason?

Also what would you do as a pre diabetic who wanted to run hgh, to avoid having it worsen your condition?

Take into consideration that HGH is NOT some "spectacular change" that you are going to see in a fast amount of time, Especially at the doses you recommended trying out, Plus you have to be committed to a clean diet, Proper hydration (1 gallon + daily) including electrolytes balanced, cardio is also an important factor while using hgh IME/IMO, , The HGH train is a slow ride, but can be rewarding for the end user if Applied correctly, , ,

 

[AlexDavis43]

A lot of this can be managed with lifestyle. Keep body fat down, cardio up, good diet and sleep quality.

Otherwise, there is no standard protocol.

Try this: track blood glucose. If it starts creeping up, consider antihyperglycemics (eg, berberine, gliflozins, metformin, maybe cinnamon and some others etc). Keep tracking and adjust/tinker accordingly.

 

[Brockinator]

Let's start with;
why are your fasted bg readings in the prediabetic range?

No, only my a1c is 5.7 and as far as I know that is enough to put me in prediabetic range and I have been feeling sides associated with being prediabetic.

 

[Sampei]

No, only my a1c is 5.7 and as far as I know that is enough to put me in prediabetic range and I have been feeling sides associated with being prediabetic.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[DugPrime]

Am I correct in my assumption that a normal dose of Metformin should be ran with any of the above hgh protocols?

I'm on CJC-DAC + MK-677 + Insulin lispro + 350-500g of carbs a day and my morning fasted BG is at 85 with 1.5g of metformin a day. You can go up to 2.5g a day.

 

[hghlover]

I'm on 4 iu HGH daily. I dose 2g metformin slow release. 1g morning and 1g evening.

 

[Musmadar]

Let's start with;
why are your fasted bg readings in the prediabetic range?

Unfortunately, fasted bg readings, are "old school" to determine the prediabetic syndrome, that's the reason why doctors don't talk too much about that...." If your fasted bg is fine, your fine"...until it's too late..."You're diabetic".

The prediabetic state is better determined by a combination of blood analyses, including HbA1c, OGTT, and other biomarkers, which provide a more comprehensive understanding of glucose metabolism and insulin resistance: Fasting Insulin Levels, C-Peptide, Lipid Profile: Dyslipidemia high triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol is commonly associated with prediabetes and insulin resistance, Elevated levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) and other inflammatory markers are linked to insulin resistance and increased diabetes risk.

Morning glucose levels are insufficient on their own to accurately diagnose the condition.

 

[Sampei]

Unfortunately, fasted bg readings, are "old school" to determine the prediabetic syndrome, that's the reason why doctors don't talk too much about that...." If your fasted bg is fine, your fine"...until it's too late..."You're diabetic".

The prediabetic state is better determined by a combination of blood analyses, including HbA1c, OGTT, and other biomarkers, which provide a more comprehensive understanding of glucose metabolism and insulin resistance: Fasting Insulin Levels, C-Peptide, Lipid Profile: Dyslipidemia high triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol is commonly associated with prediabetes and insulin resistance, Elevated levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) and other inflammatory markers are linked to insulin resistance and increased diabetes risk.

Morning glucose levels are insufficient on their own to accurately diagnose the condition.

One of the best calculation is trig + fasted BG gives a perfect indication of insulin resistance, that associated with FASTED INSULIN levels will give a much better idea if one is really down that road of becoming a diabetic.

Even hba1c by itself it's not much reliable.

 

[readalot]

FASTED INSULIN levels

Preach you STUD!

 

[DugPrime]

I'm on 4 iu HGH daily. I dose 2g metformin slow release. 1g morning and 1g evening.

You're taking metformin before going in the gym? I personally wouldn't, that shit makes you flat and reduce performances in the gym.

 

[hghlover]

You're taking metformin before going in the gym? I personally wouldn't, that shit makes you flat and reduce performances in the gym.

Not before the gym no. But I haven't noticed any effect on performance.

 

[Ateam2023]

One of the best calculation is trig + fasted BG gives a perfect indication of insulin resistance, that associated with FASTED INSULIN levels will give a much better idea if one is really down that road of becoming a diabetic.

Even hba1c by itself it's not really reliable.

I assume your talking about triglycerides, how does that calculation work exactly? my fbg is around 85-90 and my triglycerides are 61?

 

[readalot]

I assume your talking about triglycerides, how does that calculation work exactly? my fbg is around 85-90 and my triglycerides are 61?

Excellent job.

Comparison of triglyceride-glucose index and HOMA-IR for predicting prevalence and incidence of metabolic syndrome - PubMed

TyG index is superior to HOMA-IR for predicting MetS.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

TyG Index Calculator

This TyG index calculator determines insulin resistance and can also identify individuals at risk for NAFLD.

www.mdapp.co

 

[Sampei]

I assume your talking about triglycerides, how does that calculation work exactly? my fbg is around 85-90 and my triglycerides are 61?

TyG Index Calculator

This TyG index calculator determines insulin resistance and can also identify individuals at risk for NAFLD.

www.mdapp.co

Calculator

You have great insulin sensitivity if all the other markers are good. So if your fasted insulin is well, if your homa-IR is good too etc

 

[readalot]

TyG Index Calculator

This TyG index calculator determines insulin resistance and can also identify individuals at risk for NAFLD.

www.mdapp.co

Calculator

You have great insulin sensitivity if all the other markers are good. So if your fasted insulin is well, if your homa-IR is good too etc

First, MFers!!!

 

[BigTomJ]

Unfortunately, fasted bg readings, are "old school" to determine the prediabetic syndrome, that's the reason why doctors don't talk too much about that...." If your fasted bg is fine, your fine"...until it's too late..."You're diabetic".

The prediabetic state is better determined by a combination of blood analyses, including HbA1c, OGTT, and other biomarkers, which provide a more comprehensive understanding of glucose metabolism and insulin resistance: Fasting Insulin Levels, C-Peptide, Lipid Profile: Dyslipidemia high triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol is commonly associated with prediabetes and insulin resistance, Elevated levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) and other inflammatory markers are linked to insulin resistance and increased diabetes risk.

Morning glucose levels are insufficient on their own to accurately diagnose the condition.

Do you think OP self diagnosed himself as prediabetic off of detailed biomarker analysis?

Or because he had one set of bloodwork with high A1C and casually took some fasted readings in the low 100s?

Which do you think is more likely?