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Anabolic Steroids
HGH and Metformin dosage?
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Bumpygooch
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I take it in the AM maybe 2-3 hours preworkout for years, I’ve not noticed either of those.
DugPrime
Member
You're lucky. Like 30 minutes after taking it, all my glycogen is depleted and that will last (no matter how much carbs I eat) for at least 3-4h. The only positive is that the next day I'll be much fuller after my first carb meal.
I just take my 1.5g straight with the last meal of my day, so I'm just flat during the night—it's not concerning.
Musmadar
Member
Well...we are here to debate...
....by doing so, hopefully we get to learn all something new every day.
The exact condition of each member opening a tread it's not the most important issue.... the concept it is and the information gathered from each member that brings something new on the matter.
intense_bulldoze
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Agree with your post.
Debate is one thing. Speculating about how or why a member was diagnosed as pre-diabetic is irrelevant IMO. OP can chime in how his diagnosis was reached.
Some members are here just to virtue signal and make assumptions about others.
Your posts were matter of fact and nothing speculative about them, so I appreciate that.
BigTomJ
Member
That's all well and good, but just wasn't really relevant to the topic being discussed.
OP is asking for advice on adding in GH while being "prediabetic".
The first course of action is to get better information to answer his questions more accurately, the nuance of bloodwork interpretation, while important, was tangential to the topic.
It's all great points and important considerations in interpreting biomarkers with the totality of circumstances rather than relying on single metrics, my post wasn't made to suggest that fasted BG is the only indicator of diabetic risk.
My post was meant to get the OP talking and get an idea why
UncleBuns
Member
Have you measured A1C over a significant period of time or are you self-diagnosing based on one A1C draw? What is your body fat percentage and what is your nutrition like?
BamaCrazy
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Are you going to visit every thread and accuse members of virtue signaling? 1. I’m not certain you know what that means. and 2. You need some new material. This is the second time today you’ve used “virtue signaling” (incorrectly both times lol)
Ateam2023
Member
i believe some of the others were just trying to get more information from op and not necessarily making assumptions, Your reading way more into this man , we get "lacking information" and then try to get to the bottom of it to aid in the Harm Reduction moto around here, ,
intense_bulldoze
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I didn't accuse any individual. Its your opinion that I don't know what virtue signaling means. I am certain I know what it means.
Its also your opinion that I used the term incorrectly. You are entitled to your opinion. I'm sorry if my opinion bothers you.
I've been here long enough to see patterns with some members and IMO its pretty obvious with a handful here.
intense_bulldoze
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I do see this with many, but still patterns I see with others IMO do seem less about harm reduction.
I appreciate your response though and mostly agree with what you have said. Respect.
UncleBuns
Member
@intense_bulldoze point out specifically who and what you are making these claims about. Your vague statements don't mean much. It appears to me that possibly you are virtue signaling by vaguely speaking negatively about others and not providing anything actually useful. If you have something to say, just point blank point it out. OP had a specific question, do you have anything useful or relevant to add to that conversation?
Since the OP seems unwilling to give any extra information or answer any basic questions what could be a a interesting and useful conversation can't really happen. I don't see how anyone could give sound advice based on what little information is provided.
Since the OP seems unwilling to give any extra information or answer any basic questions what could be a a interesting and useful conversation can't really happen. I don't see how anyone could give sound advice based on what little information is provided.
songsofpyramids
Member
You are objectively are using the expression wrong and it seems pretty clear you don’t actually know what it means…
intense_bulldoze
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Lol, cute you think your opinion is objective.
Think what you want, Doesn't bother me.
intense_bulldoze
Banned
I agree with parts of this statement. I also believe that @Musmadar had some very relevant and valid points in his posts and I responded as such.
I am not trying to win a contribution award. The things @Musmadar mentioned in I believe his first post are what interest me the most and if OP @Brockinator has any info on those parameters, that would be the most useful information IMO.
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Musmadar
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Let's try to focus on the core issue at hand: providing the OP with the best possible advice based on the information available. If we can all strive to pick out the most relevant and useful information from each post, we can keep the discussion constructive and on track.
If something is unclear or seems off, let's ask for clarification rather than making assumptions. We all have the same goal here—to help the OP make informed decisions about health.
It's important to remember that we're all here to share knowledge and support each other. Writing on a forum has its ups and downs ... while it allows us to connect and share information, it can sometimes lead to misunderstandings since we're not talking face-to-face.
It would be a real shame if this discussion turned into a fight when everyone is genuinely looking to do good.
If something is unclear or seems off, let's ask for clarification rather than making assumptions. We all have the same goal here—to help the OP make informed decisions about health.
It's important to remember that we're all here to share knowledge and support each other. Writing on a forum has its ups and downs ... while it allows us to connect and share information, it can sometimes lead to misunderstandings since we're not talking face-to-face.
It would be a real shame if this discussion turned into a fight when everyone is genuinely looking to do good.
You should first and foremost assess your body fat percentage; if you are overweight, no amount of HGH or Metformin will rectify your blood glucose issues. Moreover, a dosage of 4 IU of HGH is so minimal that its effects would be barely perceptible.
Before resorting to Metformin, I would first consider Berberine, R-ALA, and Inositol.
This is a great resource, thanks for sharing
The paper is pretty good read as well.
Nice to have an alternative to measuring fasting insulin using results most people have at their fingertips from routine blood work. Getting your fasting insulin levels still a great direct confirmation though.
Best wishes.
Uncle Bub
Member
I was listening to a podcast recently that talked about taking HGH, Metformin, and T4 together is really good. I've been on HGH for a little while now but not the other 2. Anyone got any experience with all 3 simultaneously?
