hGH blood test

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Hello,
I have two vials of hGH that I want to test via IGF-1 blood tests.

Just figured I would ask, so it doesn't matter that I haven't been on the hGH previous to the test right? I inject 10iu about 1 1/2 hours before the test and then the IGF-1 levels should be high and that is the way it is done?

Since I have two diff GH I will wait 1 week before each testing how does that sound?

Thanks beforehand.
 
Hello,
I have two vials of hGH that I want to test via IGF-1 blood tests.

Just figured I would ask, so it doesn't matter that I haven't been on the hGH previous to the test right? I inject 10iu about 1 1/2 hours before the test and then the IGF-1 levels should be high and that is the way it is done?

Since I have two diff GH I will wait 1 week before each testing how does that sound?

Thanks beforehand.

For IGF-1 testing you have to be running the GH for a few weeks I believe.. If you only have 2 vials or you're trying to find out something soon this wouldn't work..

The protocol for GH serum test is to pin 10iu IM 3 hours before blood draw.. You could probably just wait a day or two between tests with this method.. It's not as definitive as IGF-1 though..
 
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So should I do the gh test instead? Or not test at all unless I have been running it for a while?

To test igf1 how much should I inject prior?
 
So should I do the gh test instead? Or not test at all unless I have been running it for a while?

To test igf1 how much should I inject prior?

I would if I wanted to find something out right away..

IGF-1 is nothing prior, just take your normal daily dose.. It's like testing your total testosterone in a way, you have to wait a few weeks for it to build up as I understand it..
 
Although new testing methods like HPCJ are the curent rage (not dismissing HPLC, in fact I am in the process of trying to create an HPLC facility..not easy) IGF-1 is still a very good way to test GH.

As JB noted, it is a long term process. You first need baseline labs, 100% necessary.

Then, you need to run your GH for at least 8 weeks, preferably longer. We all know that GH fluctuates dramatically during the day (peaking at night while asleep etc.).

Conversely, IGF-1 is elevated in response to exogenous GH, and fairly stable.

I ran the test on myself. Every 6 months, I get an IGF-1 test. My levels averaged 70ng. The range for my age is 60-191. Using 3 iu's e2d (1.5 iu's a day) My IGF-1 was 180.

Studies have shown that low IGF-1 can enable cancer cells to grow, as the body lacks the ability to produce antibodies to fight. High normal levels actually make the body more able to fight cancer. Of course common sense will dictate that 10 iu's a day may well be carcinogenic. I plan to be on GHRT for life.

Now sword, are you trying to decide if the GH you bought is good? IGF-1 is obviously not good for hat purpose. Blood Serum is what I look at, but of course B serum is not the best measure.

Like I said, I am looking forward to HPCL.
 
Studies have shown that low IGF-1 can enable cancer cells to grow, as the body lacks the ability to produce antibodies to fight. High normal levels actually make the body more able to fight cancer.
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Because IGF is a mitogen (causes cellular replication) with antiapoptotic (prevents cell death) properties an ELEVATED IGF-I or IGF-II LEVEL is associated with and increased incidence of certain forms of cancer such as colon, breast, endometrial and prostate. (1)

(Why? Bc errors in DNA replication occur every second, and by the law of averages a cell line that is older or undergoes marked replication, like the GI tract, are more likely a "mess up" leading to CA.)

Importantly the frequency of those cancers mentioned above is directly proportional to the IGF level itself. (2)

The link between an elevated IGF and CA has long been suspected bc the rate of "cancer" was clearly higher in Agromegalic patients. In fact the data has now become so convincing patients with a new diagnosis of Agromegaly routinely undergo a colonscopy and prostate screening exam to rule out these malignancies. Additionally it's estimated Agromegalic patients have an a increased mortality of roughly 30% from MALIGNANCIES ALONE! (3)

How much GH is to much GH? Well obviously that's the million dollar question no one has a definitive answer for. However the IGF/CA link seems strongest in those with a genetic predisposition to cancer, as defined by family history AND most importantly advancing age. (2)

Consequently a word of caution is advised, although IGF levels which exceed 200ug/L may seem impressive, the benefit achieved is probably NOT worth the risk, especially as one approaches age FIFTY. (2 & 3)

Ergo bc IGF levels fluctuate considerably with age, sex, hepatic production and response to exogenous GH administration obtaining a baseline IGF is critical IF this peptide will be used to monitor the effectiveness of GH therapy. (IGF is NOT a reliable means of evaluating the quality or "purity" of GH one is using however IMO) (4)

Of course age of GH use is particularly relevant to BB, most of whom are relatively young. Fortunately, although the data to date is incomplete, the correlation between IGF and CA is highest in those greater than 50 years old. (2)

Again let's not throw caution to the wind and believe somehow GH is different and is without risks, NOT!

Finally IMO the GH dose should not exceed 0.1mg/KG/QD and IGF doubling which does NOT result in an IGF level above 200ng/ml or I it's VERY LIKELY Acromegalic side effects WILL occur eventually, in additions to an increased risk of developing CA.

Regs
jim
 

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The last line should read; IMO the GH dose should be titrated upward over several weeks, not exceed 0.1mg/KG/QD or a dose which results in a doubling of IGF providing the IGF level does not increase above 200ng/ml, or it's …..

Finally anyone whom continues to supplement GH at an age above 50 should exercise due diligence by "screening" for those higher risk malignancies already mentioned at regular intervals. Those who choose to do otherwise do so a their own peril IMO

regs
jim
 
For several reasons "spot" GH levels border on being worthless and I wouldn't waste the time or money, what is much more reliable is IGF but it requires some 4-6 weeks to achieve steady state levels.

In addition you NEED a baseline level for comparison for EITHER TEST!

TEN IUS!!! Such dosages are unwarranted rarely tolerated unless ITS GENERIC
 
For several reasons "spot" GH levels border on being worthless and I wouldn't waste the time or money, what is much more reliable is IGF but it requires some 4-6 weeks to achieve steady state levels.

In addition you NEED a baseline level for comparison for EITHER TEST!

TEN IUS!!! Such dosages are unwarranted rarely tolerated unless ITS GENERIC
Thanks Dr. I did 10uis for 10 days . Should have done more research I don't know why I would think it works the same as a testosterone panel .
 
I found some results online people were getting levels at 7. to 12. so this test was a waste of $$$$
 
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