Hopping on cycle after 6 months off. Help with compounds.

[IntellectualSavior]

Hey folks. So I just moved to the US this past October and life has been quite tough so I didn't have the budget to cycle thus far. I'm planning on hopping on gear again next month. I've lost a lot of weight too I went from 205lbs to 180ish right now. So help me with my plan.

What I have in mind is this. FYI I have many cycles under my belt I'm not a newbie.

1-4-5 weeks 750 mg test e. ( get my groove, get pumped, gain a bit weight, consider it transition.)
And after, the real cycle begins.

1-5 weeks adrol 100-150mg (I tolerate it well even if I use 8 weeks don't freak out)
1-16 weeks- test e 1000mg
1-16 weeks- deca 1000 mg(I tolerate deca too, no worries)
Then I'll go trt dose for a while 150-200mg test e only.

okay here's where I need help. I love test and deca combo I've done the same mg before. Didn't gain drastic amount water but a bit more than I'd like. So to keep the water a bit down I'm thinking about adding maybe 200-300mg tren e throughout the cycle. don'T say increase arimidex or aromasin I don't want to fuck with it frequently and risk crash. To mindfuck you all, I don't even need arimidex in a cycle like this, lucky huh?

Would tren work on this combo to battle a bit of water weight and look a bit better and harder, masteron wouldn't be wise since its cosmetic eh? Now don't say use npp or test prop I don't want to start pinning frequently just yet, I don't feel like it. So the cycle I choose is all about eat a lot lift heavy feel good, get strong again, push numbers and chase goals!

What you all think is 4 weeks on test e enough to get back on groove after all these months? Now that I'm in us I can try other kind of orals, superdrol, halo etc. should I give them a shot too?

 

[Shadow Project]

180 lbs and wanna run 2 grams injectible + over a gram of orals on a weekly huh?

 

[IntellectualSavior]

180 lbs and wanna run 2 grams injectible + over a gram of orals on a weekly huh?

I was 230lbs at most before things went down. I know how it looks but my body tolerates high doses well. Good info is appreciated tho. All I'm trying to do is get myself well and fast enough. I don't see a reason to sit down and do 2 cycles just to go back up to a gram again, but if there is a point I'm missing or forget considering you can always tell me.

 

[Canknucklehead]

Hey folks. So I just moved to the US this past October and life has been quite tough so I didn't have the budget to cycle thus far. I'm planning on hopping on gear again next month. I've lost a lot of weight too I went from 205lbs to 180ish right now. So help me with my plan.

What I have in mind is this. FYI I have many cycles under my belt I'm not a newbie.

1-4-5 weeks 750 mg test e. ( get my groove, get pumped, gain a bit weight, consider it transition.)
And after, the real cycle begins.

1-5 weeks adrol 100-150mg (I tolerate it well even if I use 8 weeks don't freak out)
1-16 weeks- test e 1000mg
1-16 weeks- deca 1000 mg(I tolerate deca too, no worries)
Then I'll go trt dose for a while 150-200mg test e only.

okay here's where I need help. I love test and deca combo I've done the same mg before. Didn't gain drastic amount water but a bit more than I'd like. So to keep the water a bit down I'm thinking about adding maybe 200-300mg tren e throughout the cycle. don'T say increase arimidex or aromasin I don't want to fuck with it frequently and risk crash. To mindfuck you all, I don't even need arimidex in a cycle like this, lucky huh?

Would tren work on this combo to battle a bit of water weight and look a bit better and harder, masteron wouldn't be wise since its cosmetic eh? Now don't say use npp or test prop I don't want to start pinning frequently just yet, I don't feel like it. So the cycle I choose is all about eat a lot lift heavy feel good, get strong again, push numbers and chase goals!

What you all think is 4 weeks on test e enough to get back on groove after all these months? Now that I'm in us I can try other kind of orals, superdrol, halo etc. should I give them a shot too?

Tren e would make you a bit harder but I would reduce the deca a bit.

Also do superdrol week 12-16 it’s a nice dry oral.

It sounds like you have your mind made up. Did you have any particular questions? Also what are you basing your I don’t need AIs on a cycle like that on? I hope you have done bloodwork to back that claim up.

Good luck and keep us posted my friend!

 

[Canknucklehead]

I was 230lbs at most before things went down. I know how it looks but my body tolerates high doses well. Good info is appreciated tho. All I'm trying to do is get myself well and fast enough. I don't see a reason to sit down and do 2 cycles just to go back up to a gram again, but if there is a point I'm missing or forget considering you can always tell me.

What’s your blood pressure on this cycle? Just curious...as you say your body handles compounds well.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I would change some things.
1st of all I wouldn't run 750mg test only to get things back.

I would run test tren mast anywhere from 5-8 weeks to lean out get in shape build muscularity.

After that when I was lean I would add the 100 drol along with 750 test 750 deca . And then on final stage I would increase test and deca and add anadrol again.

Test tren mast I would do short esters just to get fast results with long esters multiply the time I told you by 2. So I would do fast esters to finish fast my job and then jump into test and deca to be huge again and lean

 

[IntellectualSavior]

Tren e would make you a bit harder but I would reduce the deca a bit.

Also do superdrol week 12-16 it’s a nice dry oral.

It sounds like you have your mind made up. Did you have any particular questions? Also what are you basing your I don’t need AIs on a cycle like that on? I hope you have done bloodwork to back that claim up.

Good luck and keep us posted my friend!

Got it, taking notes, I can make changes on some things as some of you suggest, I'm here to take suggestions. When it comes to AI, In my home country (Turkey) I could get free blood test whenever I want from gov. hospitals so I would get my blood done at least every month, sometimes. 2-3 weeks. So my e2 levels have always beenin range sometimes a bit high due to diet(sodium high carbs etc) but never to the point of gyno or other high e2 symptoms. I use caber for prolactin FYI. and i keep arimidex and aromasin at hand regardless.

As for your other questions I've never had bp issues either. Deca and Test was okay but I'm not gonna lie sometimes adrol would mess up with my bp(go high) but just a little nothing crazy and it would happen if I didn't eat properly that day or drink enough water.

I just know my body, I started with test only and added one drug every cycle, for example I know eq messes me up and gives me really bad anxiety so I wouldn't even use that thing again or high dose of tren makes my appetite really low and bad, I wouldn't go higher than 300mg ever even for cutting. Test deca adrol, I'm happy, healthy everything's fine.
My plan may sound dumb for now but really I think I'm not a dumb user usually, just impatient this time. only.

 

[IntellectualSavior]

I would change some things.
1st of all I wouldn't run 750mg test only to get things back.

I would run test tren mast anywhere from 5-8 weeks to lean out get in shape build muscularity.

After that when I was lean I would add the 100 drol along with 750 test 750 deca . And then on final stage I would increase test and deca and add anadrol again.

Test tren mast I would do short esters just to get fast results with long esters multiply the time I told you by 2. So I would do fast esters to finish fast my job and then jump into test and deca to be huge again and lean

Thank you, sounds reasonable, I've never tried mast yet, If I did your suggested cycle just to get back into it what would be your recommended dosages, especially for mast.
But since you've said short esters I'm guessing maybe around 300-350mg of each compound?

 

[Canknucklehead]

Got it, taking notes, I can make changes on some things as some of you suggest, I'm here to take suggestions. When it comes to AI, In my home country (Turkey) I could get free blood test whenever I want from gov. hospitals so I would get my blood done at least every month, sometimes. 2-3 weeks. So my e2 levels have always beenin range sometimes a bit high due to diet(sodium high carbs etc) but never to the point of gyno or other high e2 symptoms. I use caber for prolactin FYI. and i keep arimidex and aromasin at hand regardless.

As for your other questions I've never had bp issues either. Deca and Test was okay but I'm not gonna lie sometimes adrol would mess up with my bp(go high) but just a little nothing crazy and it would happen if I didn't eat properly that day or drink enough water.

I just know my body, I started with test only and added one drug every cycle, for example I know eq messes me up and gives me really bad anxiety so I wouldn't even use that thing again or high dose of tren makes my appetite really low and bad, I wouldn't go higher than 300mg ever even for cutting. Test deca adrol, I'm happy, healthy everything's fine.
My plan may sound dumb for now but really I think I'm not a dumb user usually, just impatient this time. only.

Good to hear... I know adrol spikes my bp. But as long as you are careful you should be good. When do you start?

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Thank you, sounds reasonable, I've never tried mast yet, If I did your suggested cycle just to get back into it what would be your recommended dosages, especially for mast.
But since you've said short esters I'm guessing maybe around 300-350mg of each compound?

You can swap mast for primo or winstrol if y like better.
I personally like 50mg test eod if prop or 1ml if it's enanthate etc.
100-150mg tren ace eod
And 50-75mg mast eod. Or 25-50mg winstrol Ed

As you can see these are low dosages but they work so good ! Cause there is a synergy in this stack.

For mast especially less is more is very androgenic keeps e2 sides at bay you flush water and gives a great grainy texture on your skin if you're lean enough. But also can be very bad to your hairline and or prostate if you're prone to those sides. I personally I'm sensitive to the prostate so I use less just to get the job done. Winstrol is another choice more potent than mast without negatives on the prostate (for me at least) but it's more kind of a finisher.

 

[IntellectualSavior]

Good to hear... I know adrol spikes my bp. But as long as you are careful you should be good. When do you start?

My plan is around the third week of April but maybe due to economic issues I might delay it 1 or 2 weeks, I'll see what I can do. Might update the topic.

You can swap mast for primo or winstrol if y like better.
I personally like 50mg test eod if prop or 1ml if it's enanthate etc.
100-150mg tren ace eod
And 50-75mg mast eod. Or 25-50mg winstrol Ed

As you can see these are low dosages but they work so good ! Cause there is a synergy in this stack.

For mast especially less is more is very androgenic keeps e2 sides at bay you flush water and gives a great grainy texture on your skin if you're lean enough. But also can be very bad to your hairline and or prostate if you're prone to those sides. I personally I'm sensitive to the prostate so I use less just to get the job done. Winstrol is another choice more potent than mast without negatives on the prostate (for me at least) but it's more kind of a finisher.

I'm down with trying mast instead of winny. Could be fun. Tren ace on the other hand, I wouldn't do 100-150 eod because kills my appetite and I can't even eat the necessary proteins on it if I use around 400-500mg So maybe 50-75 prop eod, 75 tren ace and bump the mast instead and see how much 350-400mg weekly do to me. And no hair or prostate issues so far!

6 to 8 week it is then! Appreciated!

 

[EatClen/TrenHard]

test/Tren/deca/Adrol is a great cycle from what I've read.

I question what your stats are to be running test and deca at 1000mg each, Anadrol at 150mg/day and thinking about adding some tren

 

[IntellectualSavior]

test/Tren/deca/Adrol is a great cycle from what I've read.

I question what your stats are to be running test and deca at 1000mg each, Anadrol at 150mg/day and thinking about adding some tren

Are you asking blood or possibly lifts? If its the lifts you're asking, at my most weight 230lbs I was squatting 505lbs, deadlift 460ish bench 290 ohp 230. That happened on 800mg test 800mg deca and 150 adrol, I did 1g of them only for 4 weeks so I don't consider all that much, it was just to test the waters.

I come from a really skinny bad genes childhood so I'm trying to do my best always. my bench and ohp sucks due to me having really brittle arm genetics.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

My plan is around the third week of April but maybe due to economic issues I might delay it 1 or 2 weeks, I'll see what I can do. Might update the topic.


I'm down with trying mast instead of winny. Could be fun. Tren ace on the other hand, I wouldn't do 100-150 eod because kills my appetite and I can't even eat the necessary proteins on it if I use around 400-500mg So maybe 50-75 prop eod, 75 tren ace and bump the mast instead and see how much 350-400mg weekly do to me. And no hair or prostate issues so far!

6 to 8 week it is then! Appreciated!

Stay at 400 ace. Yeah bump up the mast instead and when you're lean enough lower it and bump the test up and also add in anadrol definitely and you're in for growing lean.

 

[IntellectualSavior]

Stay at 400 ace. Yeah bump up the mast instead and when you're lean enough lower it and bump the test up and also add in anadrol definitely and you're in for growing lean.

Much appreciated, thanks a lot. Always wanted to try mast, let's see how it goes.

 

[LSDPowerlifting]

E2 in range on 750 test 750 deca? Is this possible?

And you are a newb, if you weren't you'd be getting the job done with lower dosages, because you'd know that you'll end up more jacked in the long run this way, rather than taking so much early on and throwing your health away to the point that you're going to have to quickly give up blasting steroids completely.