How is my pct

[illuminatty]

I've read aromasin can be of great help during pct to control e spike

So I was thinking 2 weeks after my last pin of test e

4 weeks of aromasin 12.5 eod
4 weeks of clomid 100/100/50/50
4 weeks of nolva 40/40/20/20
4 weeks of unleashed
4 weeks of daa
And hop on creatine at 3G a day

 

[illuminatty]

Also on a separate note I've got my hands on some Roche accutane 20mg tablets in anticipation of pct acne.
I'm 31 years old and work in corporate and cannot have a pizza face lol.

I plan to add anavar next week at 50mg Ed is it safe to add 20mg of accutane all the way through pct?

 

[Michael Scally MD]

What is "unleashed"?

You are planning to add anavar to the PCT?

Why SERMs & AI?

What is the cycle?

 

[illuminatty]

Thank you for the reply doc. Anavar will be added to cycle from week 8-14

So cycle

Test e 500mg week 1-12
Anavar 50mg 8-14
Pct 14-18
Unleashed is a formula from need to build muscle a natural test booster and estrogen blocker.

I was thinking of adding aromasin to control e spike.

I also need to watch acne as I don't want work people to notice so I was thinking accutane at 20mg Ed week 8-16 and taper off

 

[illuminatty]

Pct would be clomid and nolva along with aromasin daa and unleashed. I wanted to add accutane 2 months prior to prevent and pct acne.

 

[morris00123]

If you are running test e, it should be in your system for at least 3 weeks. I wouldnt start a PCT until at least 3 weeks from your last pin bro. IMO. I am running test c and thats what i plan on doing. 3-3 1/2 weeks from my last pin i will run nolva and clomid at the same mg you are.

 

[illuminatty]

Gotcha Morris. 3 weeks it is. I plan to run accutane also 2 months prior to pct so it's fully in force when pct hits.

The problem is is anavar safe to take with accutane for liver?

 

[deadliftinghorse]

Have you done that acutane before? I almost lost my mind on that shit be careful with y, I ended up giving all mine to a buddy. Also I assume to are throwing the anavar end at the tail end of your cycle to lose the water retention of the test e? If this is so why not go with test p and start your pct 2 1/2 weeks earlier? If I was you I might just save the var for when you are doing some shorter estered gear. Its difficult to see the effects unless you are lean already.

 

[deadliftinghorse]

For what it's worth I break out horribly on test-e and test-c, but I only get like 1 or 2 zits on my back on a test prop cycle

 

[IRQ_001]

Gotcha Morris. 3 weeks it is. I plan to run accutane also 2 months prior to pct so it's fully in force when pct hits.

The problem is is anavar safe to take with accutane for liver?

At that dose after 12 weeks, you should wait at least 30 days before you start PCT. 3 weeks is too early.

 

[calfcramp]

I go with toremifene! I will never do a pct w/out it again. You can run it with clomid or nolva.

Weeks:
1, 120mg daily
2-4, 90mg daily
5, 60mg daily
6, 30mg daily
I go with 7 weeks for good measure.
This dose is high. Some may recommend less but that's what works for me.

 

[Babylon]

Pct is overkill imo. No need for all those drugs. Choose one and run it. Save the aromasin for your cycles incase you need it some day.

At that dose after 12 weeks, you should wait at least 30 days before you start PCT. 3 weeks is too early.

Bs start the pct in 14 days half life is not dose or duration dependent. 12 weeks is a very short cycle.

 

[Babylon]

Thank you for the reply doc. Anavar will be added to cycle from week 8-14

So cycle

Test e 500mg week 1-12
Anavar 50mg 8-14
Pct 14-18
Unleashed is a formula from need to build muscle a natural test booster and estrogen blocker.

I was thinking of adding aromasin to control e spike.

I also need to watch acne as I don't want work people to notice so I was thinking accutane at 20mg Ed week 8-16 and taper off

Running that oral at the end of the cycle as the gains start to slow is the best way to do it IMO.

 

[illuminatty]

Babylon, wouldn't aromasin help with e spike during pct? I'm trying to avoid sides especially acne...

 

[Babylon]

Either of the drugs will stop an estrogen spike during PCT. What the aromasin will do after pct is stop possible estrogen rebound. Are you very sensitive to acne or something?

I havent seen a protocol like this since the GenX boards were open. Were you a member on one? Curious as to where you got the idea for this type of protocol?

 

[illuminatty]

I am very sensitive to acne. I never broke out in my teens but I broke out at age 23-25 horribly and suddenly disappeared.

Also my line of work I can't show any signs people are already telling me I got huge.

I was never a member of any boards except steroid.com 13 years ago.

 

[Babylon]

Ok fair enough bro. Control your estrogen while on cycle with adex.
Aromasin and clomid for pct, drop the tamoxifen.

Check out this post: http://united-muscle.com/showthread.php?6489-Newly-Updated-Recommendations-HCG-amp-PCT-by-VISIONS

 

[illuminatty]

Thanks babylon. So my pct will look like this

Aromasin 12.5mg eod week 1-5
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Unleashed 1-4
Creatine 3G week 1-8
DAA 1-4

I think that should help me retain gains and recover nicely

I'm on biomex test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Thanks babylon. So my pct will look like this

Aromasin 12.5mg eod week 1-5
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Unleashed 1-4
Creatine 3G week 1-8
DAA 1-4

I think that should help me retain gains and recover nicely

I'm on biomex test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks

Without commenting on the PCT as a whole, I can categorically state that Unleashed, Creatine, & DAA will do NOTHING for HPTA function/restoration. I do not know the contents of Unleashed, but the others while worthless are also harmless. IF Unleashed contains Tribulus, there is evidence for its harm.

 

[IRQ_001]

Pct is overkill imo. No need for all those drugs. Choose one and run it. Save the aromasin for your cycles incase you need it some day.



Bs start the pct in 14 days half life is not dose or duration dependent. 12 weeks is a very short cycle.

Care to explain why my advice is BS? You think PCT is solely dependent on half life? Do you know what your exo test levels are after 12 weeks and what is the optimal environment is to start PCT? Did, I say 12-weeks is a long cycle?

OP, have a look at the sticky "comprehensive guide to PCT" ... trust me, it's no BS if your recovery is at the top of your agenda.