How to do roids without looking like you are on cycle?

[Givemeroidsorgivemedeath]

Hello,
I had my first cycle, everything went perfect, im doing post-PCT bloodwork this week (7 weeks after PCT).
Im going to do another cycle in some months. Im mostly doing steroids for athletic performance, to train more and harder, and i can't do my sports looking like Hulk. On 350mg of T i gain like 7Kg of water and my muscles blow in size, specially traps, delts and upper chest (women love it though), i also get painful shin cramps when running.

How can i do steroids without looking like im on steroids? Would using an AI help? Lowering T dosage? Any steroid recommendations?
I was thinking about running something like 200-250mg/week T, 200mg/week primo for 8-10 weeks and 40-60mg/day anavar for the last 6 weeks.
Last cycle i used Ralox for estrogen control but my muscles were too bloated, so it's either lowering T until the bloat is manageable (specially for sleeping) or using an AI.
Equipoise is not out of the possibilities, but i also have other options to increase RBC and general cardio if needed.

Thanks.

 

[NLM36]

So you want to do steroids to compete in a tested organization?

 

[Manbearpig2]

Why would you wanna be on gear and not look like it? Not that you would look like it even if you tried.

 

[grey]

How can i do steroids without looking like im on steroids?

Don't lift weights. Steroids won't do a fucking thing for hypertrophy if you are just dicking around for "athletic performance" without hypertrophic stimulus. training.

Tons of cardio athletes use various PEDs for recovery etc and they still look like sickly children. You can too.

 

[Jestopherson]

If you're going to run var at 60mg a day. Just you wait for those shin/calve cramps.

Use cardarine if you want performance enhancement without using gear.

 

[NLM36]

Watch Icarus the doc goes pretty in depth

 

[Givemeroidsorgivemedeath]

Don't lift weights. Steroids won't do a fucking thing for hypertrophy if you are just dicking around for "athletic performance" without hypertrophic stimulus. training.

Tons of cardio athletes use various PEDs for recovery etc and they still look like sickly children. You can too.

I still need muscles, speed, power and strength, im not running a marathon. Just need less muscle glycogen (or whatever causes the bloat) that 350mg of T gives me.

 

[Jestopherson]

I still need muscles, speed, power and strength, im not running a marathon. Just need less muscle glycogen (or whatever causes the bloat) that 350mg of T gives me.

The bloat is from water and mismanaged estrogen.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

The bloat is from water and mismanaged estrogen.

And probably poor dietary choices.

 

[Jestopherson]

And probably poor dietary choices.

100% first cycle I was lazy. Ate a lot of A&W. I was a bloated mess. Learned from that real fast

 

[Bork]

100% first cycle I was lazy. Ate a lot of A&W. I was a bloated mess. Learned from that real fast

I’m trying to avoid sodium as much as possible on this cycle to avoid bloat and water retention.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

100% first cycle I was lazy. Ate a lot of A&W. I was a bloated mess. Learned from that real fast

Agree. Many of these guys think that they can run some dbol and eat like complete shit, and they are going to get ripped.

Getting bodyfat down to a low percentage is a week by week, day by day, hour by hour task, that you have to put thought and planning towards.

I've been there too. And I always wondered why I couldn't get rid of this subcutaneous fat. It was only after I started studying books like The Anabolic Diet by Mauro DiPasquali, and put his nutrient ratios into effect, that I started to see real progress.

AAS are great. They make you strong and blah blah blah. But dialing in your diet is the only way to get a good physique.

 

[Fattyone]

I have mastered the art of running gear and not looking like I’ve ever pinned gear. Message me for my secrets

 

[grey]

I still need muscles, speed, power and strength

As I said: Don't. Do. Hypertrophy. Training.

I highlighted the key bit for you.

 

[Test_Subject]

If you don’t want to look like you’re on steroids, don’t use steroids?

Call me crazy.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

I’m trying to avoid sodium as much as possible on this cycle to avoid bloat and water retention.

I wouldn't do that. My thought is to sacrifice some carb intake and keep sodium levels optimal, for electrolyte balance.

 

[NLM36]

As I said: Don't. Do. Hypertrophy. Training.

I highlighted the key bit for you.

I hate that term. Might as well say don’t do any strength training. Mechanical tension is what causes myofibrillar hypertrophy which is the only one that really matters.

 

[Bork]

I wouldn't do that. My thought is to sacrifice some carb intake and keep sodium levels optimal, for electrolyte balance.

Considering how much salty shit I eat, me cutting the salt means not exceeding 10x DV.

 

[grey]

Might as well say don’t do any strength training.

He goes heavier with less reps he gets less muscular than the opposite. If he needs strength and insists on steroid use this is his only option to minimize size gain.

 

[Gixjon22]

85% of people using gear dont even look like they lift. So. Just be a regular person.