How to do roids without looking like you are on cycle?

[NLM36]

Honestly now that I’ve increased the volume lifting in the 6-12 rep range, I’m noticing a big difference in visual growth. Before, for years, I use to strictly train 3-5 reps and would get stronger but hardly look any bigger unless I was in a big caloric surplus.

Fuck this heavy training shit, it’s taxing and little reward for me in terms of physique and hypertrophy.

The surplus would be the key there.
I train heavy, always heavy and to failure. But heavy is also relative. I hit all muscle groups in the 5-9,10-12,15-20 rep range. But it’s all heavy as when you’re pushing beyond failure and using a very controlled and slow tempo. For bodybuilding purposes there’s no reason go below 5 reps as I don’t believe there’s enough tut.

 

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15-20 rep range

I tried integrating 20-rep back squats a couple years back. It was then that I realized I didn't quite have that level of mental fortitude. A morning workout with that meant that I wasn't going to do shit for the rest of the day.

Great stuff but I am not sure I could have hacked that back in my 20's let alone now.

 

[malfeasance]

I tried integrating 20-rep back squats a couple years back. It was then that I realized I didn't quite have that level of mental fortitude. A morning workout with that meant that I wasn't going to do shit for the rest of the day.

Great stuff but I am not sure I could have hacked that back in my 20's let alone now.

Yeah, 20 rep squat sets suck! It's work.

 

[OmL]

It’s very, very, infrequent that someone has the balls to straight up ask “Are you taking steroids?”, and in this rare occurrence I hit back with a “I have my own gym and hit it six times a week, I eat six meals a day. You tell me what I’m supposed to look like when I live like this?”

 

[NLM36]

I tried integrating 20-rep back squats a couple years back. It was then that I realized I didn't quite have that level of mental fortitude. A morning workout with that meant that I wasn't going to do shit for the rest of the day.

Great stuff but I am not sure I could have hacked that back in my 20's let alone now.

I got hooked on window makers from doing DC training.
theyre not fun. I’m a gluten for punishment though.

 

[Cdave.aol]

The surplus would be the key there.
I train heavy, always heavy and to failure. But heavy is also relative. I hit all muscle groups in the 5-9,10-12,15-20 rep range. But it’s all heavy as when you’re pushing beyond failure and using a very controlled and slow tempo. For bodybuilding purposes there’s no reason go below 5 reps as I don’t believe there’s enough tut.

That’s the thing, when I was lifting heavy a surplus was almost required in order to add weight to the bar. Now even when cutting I find I can make steady progress with little fatigue, actually looking bigger. I’m also taking 400mgs of test so that helps

 

[malfeasance]

That’s the thing, when I was lifting heavy a surplus was almost required in order to add weight to the bar. Now even when cutting I find I can make steady progress with little fatigue, actually looking bigger. I’m also taking 400mgs of test so that helps

That's cheating!

 

[Givemeroidsorgivemedeath]

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You can try.

 

[pbj190]

You're correct as far as i'm concerned. It takes big weights to build a big boy. If it were easy everyone would be jacked.

I'm not big, and also don't understand most of what y'all are talking about. But a quote from a dude at my gym back home has stuck with me for 15 years. "Everyone wanna be a body builder but no one wanna lift no heavy ass weight."

Maybe he stole that from someone, I don't know, but I'm trying to put it into practice now.

 

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Maybe he stole that from someone, I don't know

From Ronnie Coleman:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/526415-everybody-wants-to-be-a-bodybuilder-but-nobody-wants-to#:~:text=%E2%80%9CEverybody%20wants%20to%20be%20a%20bodybuilder%2C%20but%20nobody%20wants%20to,no%20heavy%2Dass%20weights.%E2%80%9D

 

[pbj190]

From Ronnie Coleman:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/526415-everybody-wants-to-be-a-bodybuilder-but-nobody-wants-to#:~:text=%E2%80%9CEverybody%20wants%20to%20be%20a%20bodybuilder%2C%20but%20nobody%20wants%20to,no%20heavy%2Dass%20weights.%E2%80%9D

Man, I really don't know shit

 

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Man, I really don't know shit

Nah, it just happened that a YouTube series I used to follow used that soundbite in a ton of clips so it was right at the top of my head.