How to transition to cruise

[TheNeWkID]

Because I can honestly say that if I can safely cruise long term on 250 I would love it. That dose is optimal for how you feel on it. But another monster I am rapping me head around is hemoglobin and hemocrat levels. Can any long term trt person here tell me if cruisin on 160 mg weekly over the long haul is defiantly gonna have issues with this or does it not effect everyone. I just really started trt and I am trying to learn.

 

[double-leg]

I'm currently on a contest prep cycle.

For the last few weeks

Test p 100mg eod (dropping today for show)

Tren a 100mg eod

I was on test e 500mg/wk before this.

I planned on cruising on 200mg test e for a little bit after my comp then bulk w test e and npp.

I know tren and npp shut u down kinda hard. Do people experience negative effects going from blast to cruise? Ie sexual/mental side effects? Is 200mg enough? Is there any estro rebound from blasting and cruising like there is sometimes post pct?

A little acne from transitions

 

[TheNeWkID]

God trucker your post makes me feel so much better!!! I'm new to trt and trying learn the ropes. I was told recently that if I ran 160 mg and I got bloods 6 months out my hemocrat levels would be so high I would most certainly have to give blood around every 3 months. Is this fact or just a personal experience? And thanks

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Giving blood isnt always necessary. There are those that are more cautious and thats fine. It wouldn't hurt. I having only been self cruising and blasting for a year and every time I run labs my levels come back fine just fine. Im healthier than ever and I think test should be a part of every mans diet know what I mean?

I haven't given blood yet

 

[TheNeWkID]

Man I needed your post brother. Thank you. I been stressing this badly. You couldn't be more right. Life is so much better. My mood is better. I'm stronger than ever and I could hit baseballs with my bat!!! Trt is amazing. Thanks again bro.

 

[TheNeWkID]

one more question you or someone else may be able to answer. I hear guys saying they are prescribed trt from a doctor and claim they cruise and blast. How the fuck do you pull that off? What doctor in there right mind would not drop a patient when bloods come back at 5000 or more? Is there a secret I am not aware of or are they just making it up.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Well do it safe. No need for an early departure

If your at risk genetically for heart issues then it would be wise to watch your lipids. It would be wise any way

The way I figure it. Im making my own decisions here and im willing to live with the consequences. If any

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

one more question you or someone else may be able to answer. I hear guys saying they are prescribed trt from a doctor and claim they cruise and blast. How the fuck do you pull that off? What doctor in there right mind would not drop a patient when bloods come back at 5000 or more? Is there a secret I am not aware of or are they just making it up.

They run short ester cycles and get tt back down In time for the next appt

 

[Cmxer32]

@gr8whitetrukker you ever use hcg?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

@gr8whitetrukker you ever use hcg?

No

 

[Cmxer32]

No

I think the shit is overrated IMO, I have tried it during and at the end of cycles and can't really tell a difference if I use it or not.

I will be starting my first cruise after this tren cycle! Tired of losing my hard earned gains.

 

[Dr JIM]

[QUOTE="lucabratzi, post: 1274112, member: 64024"

. Do people experience negative effects going from blast to cruise? I[/QUOTE]

Oh yea HTPA restoration will become more prolonged and difficult guaranteed and I believe the benefits of AAS are BEST revealed when the HTPA is fully restored.

Any reasonable quantity of AAS will "shut you down" yet some such as Nandrolone have active metabolites that maintain HTPA suppression for a longer interval.

The bottom line for those who are sincere I'd suggest a mild Oral such as Var or Test as the parenteral AAS for cruising NOTHING MORE POTENT.

Finally although there are exceptions, those PRO'S whom did cruise bt "cycles" the objective of said cruising was STRICTLY limited to that of maintaining gains.

 

[swerve]

@gr8whitetrukker ...when you blast do you add the amount of test that your gonna blast with on top of your trt dose or do you drop the trt dose and run the blast amount then resume your trt when said blast is over???

 

[Dirty Gym Rat!]

There aren't any long term studies done on AAS. I know of more than a few that stay on at 500mg permanently and an even smaller group that have been on 1gram of test for over 15 years straight. I would say side effects are blown out of proportion by most. I feel great and im not going back

I couldn't agree worth you more. I've been running 500mg test e on my trt/cruise whatever you want to call it for the past 10 yrs. I cycle up about twice a year and do blood work every year. My doctor knows this and I am considered very healthy. I live a very healthy lifestyle mind you. No alcohol, no fast food, and tons of exercise. I believe a lot is overrated as long as you keep track of your bloods. I know a 74 yr old guy I used to work out with that had been running for 40+ years and he showed me his blood work.

 

[Archimedes]

one more question you or someone else may be able to answer. I hear guys saying they are prescribed trt from a doctor and claim they cruise and blast. How the fuck do you pull that off? What doctor in there right mind would not drop a patient when bloods come back at 5000 or more? Is there a secret I am not aware of or are they just making it up.

I'm one of those guys...You run a plot of what your blasting on so you can come off in time. Come off everything for about a month, then donate blood the week before your blood work for the Doc. Your HDL might be a bit low, but everyting else will be in range.

 

[FuriousWO]

Hey Truk, if I was switching from a test P based cycle to cruise with test e, would I inject both for a bit while the test kicks in 2-3 weeks?) then drop the prop?

 

[lucabratzi]

Hey Truk, if I was switching from a test P based cycle to cruise with test e, would I inject both for a bit while the test kicks in 2-3 weeks?) then drop the prop?

That's what I was gonna plan on doing. I'm on moderate dose test prop now, 75mg eod. When I go back to test e I'm gonna run both for 3 weeks then drop prop.

 

[TheNeWkID]

Wow. And I thought it was bs. Impressive.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I will be starting my first cruise after this tren cycle! Tired of losing my hard earned gains.

You mean your first and last cruise right? It never ends

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

@gr8whitetrukker ...when you blast do you add the amount of test that your gonna blast with on top of your trt dose or do you drop the trt dose and run the blast amount then resume your trt when said blast is over???

I dont look at It like that. I just blast with what I want then when im done I drop all compounds and add my test 250. Im fixin to kick it up a bit tho. Im gonna start running much higher doses on my blasts and see for myself if gains are dose dependent. So far I just run test 500 max and some deca 600 max. Next cycle will be different