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Tudca can be injected or taken orally

What is the point you are making here pal ?

From a pharmacological perspective, administering ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA) or tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA) via subcutaneous injection would not be advisable or effective. Here's why:

  1. Mechanism of Action and Site of Activity:
    • UDCA and TUDCA are bile acids that exert their therapeutic effects primarily within the hepatobiliary system and gastrointestinal tract.
    • They work by modifying bile composition, promoting bile flow, and protecting liver cells from toxic bile acids.
  2. Pharmacokinetics:
    • When administered orally, UDCA and TUDCA are absorbed in the small intestine, taken up by hepatocytes in the liver, conjugated (if not already), and excreted into the bile.
    • They undergo enterohepatic circulation, meaning they are secreted into the bile, reach the intestine, and are reabsorbed back into the bloodstream, which prolongs their presence in the body and enhances their therapeutic effect.
  3. Ineffectiveness of Subcutaneous Route:
    • Subcutaneous injection bypasses the gastrointestinal tract, disrupting the normal absorption and enterohepatic circulation of these bile acids.
    • Without entering the digestive system, they cannot effectively reach the bile ducts or influence bile composition.
    • Additionally, the liver's uptake mechanisms for these substances are optimized for compounds arriving via the portal vein from the gut, not the systemic circulation.
  4. Potential Adverse Effects:
    • Injecting bile acids subcutaneously could cause local irritation or inflammation, as these acids may be irritating to tissues outside the gastrointestinal tract.
    • There's also a risk of systemic side effects due to altered pharmacodynamics when bypassing the natural metabolic pathways.
  5. Lack of Clinical Evidence:
    • As of my knowledge cutoff in October 2023, there is no clinical evidence or approved formulations supporting the subcutaneous administration of UDCA or TUDCA.
    • Standard practice relies on oral administration, which has been proven effective and safe for patients.
  6. Alternative Routes in Special Cases:
    • In patients who cannot take oral medications (e.g., due to severe malabsorption or gastrointestinal surgery), alternative treatments are usually considered rather than changing the administration route of bile acids.
    • In such cases, other medications or therapeutic interventions are typically preferred.
Conclusion:

Administering UDCA or TUDCA via subcutaneous injection does not align with their pharmacological properties and therapeutic mechanisms. The oral route remains the most effective and appropriate method for delivering these medications to achieve their intended effects within the hepatobiliary system.
 
From a pharmacological perspective, administering ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA) or tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA) via subcutaneous injection would not be advisable or effective. Here's why:

  1. Mechanism of Action and Site of Activity:
    • UDCA and TUDCA are bile acids that exert their therapeutic effects primarily within the hepatobiliary system and gastrointestinal tract.
    • They work by modifying bile composition, promoting bile flow, and protecting liver cells from toxic bile acids.
  2. Pharmacokinetics:
    • When administered orally, UDCA and TUDCA are absorbed in the small intestine, taken up by hepatocytes in the liver, conjugated (if not already), and excreted into the bile.
    • They undergo enterohepatic circulation, meaning they are secreted into the bile, reach the intestine, and are reabsorbed back into the bloodstream, which prolongs their presence in the body and enhances their therapeutic effect.
  3. Ineffectiveness of Subcutaneous Route:
    • Subcutaneous injection bypasses the gastrointestinal tract, disrupting the normal absorption and enterohepatic circulation of these bile acids.
    • Without entering the digestive system, they cannot effectively reach the bile ducts or influence bile composition.
    • Additionally, the liver's uptake mechanisms for these substances are optimized for compounds arriving via the portal vein from the gut, not the systemic circulation.
  4. Potential Adverse Effects:
    • Injecting bile acids subcutaneously could cause local irritation or inflammation, as these acids may be irritating to tissues outside the gastrointestinal tract.
    • There's also a risk of systemic side effects due to altered pharmacodynamics when bypassing the natural metabolic pathways.
  5. Lack of Clinical Evidence:
    • As of my knowledge cutoff in October 2023, there is no clinical evidence or approved formulations supporting the subcutaneous administration of UDCA or TUDCA.
    • Standard practice relies on oral administration, which has been proven effective and safe for patients.
  6. Alternative Routes in Special Cases:
    • In patients who cannot take oral medications (e.g., due to severe malabsorption or gastrointestinal surgery), alternative treatments are usually considered rather than changing the administration route of bile acids.
    • In such cases, other medications or therapeutic interventions are typically preferred.
Conclusion:

Administering UDCA or TUDCA via subcutaneous injection does not align with their pharmacological properties and therapeutic mechanisms. The oral route remains the most effective and appropriate method for delivering these medications to achieve their intended effects within the hepatobiliary system.
Where’s that info from spanky ?

Link it
 
Fucking hell you should teach the other sources how to do orals.

Btw have you started the production of this tudca pills? When in another thread I suggested it many ppl were agreeing that it's something we all would buy
Yes, I am planning to announce this news! We just made 100 bottles of TUDCA 250mg x 50 capsules to check whether customers welcome this product! Because the quantity is relatively small, the cost will be slightly higher. The tentative price is: 1bottle (TUDCA 200mg x 50) 13usd
I am not sure if the price is expensive! Can you guys give me suggestions?
 
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Very cheap indeed, can anyone vouche for them or used the items?
 
Yes, I am planning to announce this news! We just made 100 bottles of TUDCA 250mg x 50 capsules to check whether customers welcome this product! Because the quantity is relatively small, the cost will be slightly higher. The tentative price is: 1bottle (TUDCA 200mg x 50) 13usd
I am not sure if the price is expensive! Can you guys give me suggestions?

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Price is not very cheap neither expensive, let's say that as it's coming from china and not a certified supplements company I would expect a lower price.

Now I don't know the cost of production but If I was you I would sell this first batch without thinking of profit but just to gather interest in the product and just to repay yourself or the basic cost of making the batch. Next batch make a bigger one (you will have higher margin) and keep a competitive price, enjoy profit.


Have you sent those pills to test? A nice lab test showing properly dosing will seal the deal.
 
Yes, I am planning to announce this news! We just made 100 bottles of TUDCA 250mg x 50 capsules to check whether customers welcome this product! Because the quantity is relatively small, the cost will be slightly higher. The tentative price is: 1bottle (TUDCA 200mg x 50) 13usd
I am not sure if the price is expensive! Can you guys give me suggestions?
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Available in the US just to give you an idea.
 
Yes, I am planning to announce this news! We just made 100 bottles of TUDCA 250mg x 50 capsules to check whether customers welcome this product! Because the quantity is relatively small, the cost will be slightly higher. The tentative price is: 1bottle (TUDCA 200mg x 50) 13usd
I am not sure if the price is expensive! Can you guys give me suggestions?
Go 500mg x 100 for $10
 
I would go for something like $8-$9 for 250mg*100. If it cost higher, raw powder into capsules is easy to make for 1/3rd the cost so it wont be worth it to get it ready made.

And opt for $7 for a 10 bottle deal
 
I would go for something like $8-$9 for 250mg*100. If it cost higher, raw powder into capsules is easy to make for 1/3rd the cost so it wont be worth it to get it ready made.

And opt for $7 for a 10 bottle deal
That's very well said Mr Narta
 
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