Hypersexuality and nut quality on cabergoline?

Assume I am using a sweet voice.

But you do understand the danger of using proviron on cycle when libido is already high right? Not to mention you should have ED after the cycle and if you are using cialis to counter that you are creating a dick dependance on a dick dependance.

Desensitized libido!

Yes,
I havnt had any negativity, as of yet.

My libido post cycle suffers for about 2 weeks, when first starting Nolva and Clomid.
I'll typically use 10mg Cialis EOD, just to ensure I can get morning wood.

I try not to over do it, as I definatly dont want to desensitize.

Thus far, I have bounced back pretty well.
 
My libido post cycle suffers for about 2 weeks, when first starting Nolva and Clomid.
I'll typically use 10mg Cialis EOD, just to ensure I can get morning wood.

you should have ED after the cycle and if you are using cialis to counter that you are creating a dick dependance on a dick dependance.

Well you are doing exactly what I said you shouldn't be doing. :P
Just keep in mind that sometimes our "fixing" of things make things worse.
 
Well you are doing exactly what I said you shouldn't be doing. :p
Just keep in mind that sometimes our "fixing" of things make things worse.

Serious question,
I've always bounced back...
BUT, have you seen guys not bounce back?
Specifically, after I run HCG and PCT
I'm gtg after a while.

This isnt a scenario where guys who are running Tren with Caber, sometimes lose their libido....forever

Or is it?
 
Serious question,
I've always bounced back...
BUT, have you seen guys not bounce back?
Specifically, after I run HCG and PCT
I'm gtg after a while.

This isnt a scenario where guys who are running Tren with Caber, sometimes lose their libido....forever

Or is it?
Aren't you currently using cialis or proviron?

I would assume you constantly have to use something to make the stick work considering you are "over-exposing" your libido.
 
Aren't you currently using cialis or proviron?

I would assume you constantly have to use something to make the stick work considering you are "over-exposing" your libido.

I typically use as follows.

Proviron 50mg ED split (ONLY on cycle)

Cialis 10mg EOD first 2 weeks of PCT meds (Specifically 2 weeks after last pin of Testosterone Propionate)

Off cycle.
Nothing.

Libido is excellent after stopping Nolvadex.

I still get weak morning wood after 2 weeks of Nolva, just not the best erections.

I try not to use Cialis if I can get it up naturally... unless I'm on vacation with my wife lol
 
Serious question,
I've always bounced back...
BUT, have you seen guys not bounce back?
Specifically, after I run HCG and PCT
I'm gtg after a while.

This isnt a scenario where guys who are running Tren with Caber, sometimes lose their libido....forever

Or is it?

There are some cases of people losing it for good in the literature although specifics are often lacking
 
There are some cases of people losing it for good in the literature although specifics are often lacking

Are we talking specifically Proviron and Cialis?
Or specifically Caber, Prami etc?

I would really appreciate any literature on PCT and ED medication.
I've had such a hard time finding studies that are applicable to our AAS lifestyle
 
Are we talking specifically Proviron and Cialis?
Or specifically Caber, Prami etc?

I would really appreciate any literature on PCT and ED medication.
I've had such a hard time finding studies that are applicable to our AAS lifestyle

I was talking about cabergoline

There isnt any study worth reading on the subject sadly, as you said the population studied are much different
 
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There isnt any study worth reading on the subject sadly, as you said the population studied are much different
Havah, why do you say that the population is much different? The way we do science is f*cking smart...

High prolactin -> Low testosterone = TRT in subjects...

Cabergoline in the Treatment of Male Orgasmic Disorder—A Retrospective Pilot Analysis
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2050116116000076

Abstract
Introduction
Male orgasmic disorder is common, with few treatment options. Cabergoline is a dopamine agonist that acts centrally to normalize serum prolactin that could improve orgasmic dysfunction.

Aims
To determine whether cabergoline increases the potential for orgasm in men with orgasmic disorder.

Methods
A retrospective chart review of men treated in a single andrology clinic for delayed orgasm or anorgasmia in a pilot study using cabergoline 0.5 mg twice weekly was performed. Duration of treatment and response were noted. Medical records were examined for other factors including history of prostatectomy and concomitant androgen supplementation.

Main Outcome Measures
Subjective improvement in orgasmic function resulting from cabergoline treatment.

Results
Of 131 men treated with cabergoline for orgasmic disorder, 87 (66.4%) reported subjective improvement in orgasm and 44 (33.6%) reported no change in orgasm. Duration of therapy (P = .03) and concomitant testosterone therapy (P = .02) were associated with a significant positive response to cabergoline treatment. No differences were found between injectable and non-injectable testosterone formulations (P = .90), and neither age (P = .90) nor prior prostatectomy (P = .41) influenced the outcome of cabergoline treatment. Serum testosterone levels before (P = .26) and after (P = .81) treatment were not significantly different in responders vs non-responders.

Conclusion
Cabergoline is a potentially effective and easy-to-administer treatment for male orgasmic disorder, the efficacy of which appears to be independent of patient age or orgasmic disorder etiology. Prospective randomized trials are needed to determine the true role of cabergoline in the treatment of this disorder.
 
I was talking about cabergoline

There isnt any study worth reading on the subject sadly

Oh well, thanks anyways

I agree, even with Caber... there really isnt enough info.
For example was watching Anabolic Docs video on Tren.
He was specifically saying , some guys never come back from Tren with their libido and sexuality.

I would argue fucking with your dopamine can play a serious role in this as well.
However, it is quite often overlooked as a cause l.
 
Seeking Hypersexuality is unwise. Just like amphetamins, it may feel great at first but it ends up 'downregulating' and one chases an unachievable state ... certainly nonsustainable.

At the core of hypersexuality is an impulse control/'addiction' situation. Seeking to be ever stimulated is also seeking to be never satisfied.

It should be noted that dopamine agonists can equally induce compulsive gambling as it can hypersexuality. Does one want to get in dept, loosing their money, home, spouse, and job due to compulsive gambling?

The studies put forth are primarily for treating sexual disorders. Not for pushing ones limits. One can argue, 'but I have a sexual disorder now due to AAS' - then the answer relies primarily with AAS. Also, one cannot have such a disorder even though caused by purely 'physical' reasons without being further compounded by developing comorbid psychological issues.

Now is it possible to improve an AAS induced problem with other meds? Probably. But it will be elusive, complicated and just as likely to compound the issues(s). This forum is full of post of 'instant' results or the expecting of such. Reality is that hormones and neurotransmitters are in a complex balance and changes take a long time to fully stabilize. They may very well stabilize in a state one does not wish to live in as sexual dysfunction well illustrates.


High prolactin -> Low testosterone = TRT in subjects...
Cabergoline in the Treatment of Male Orgasmic Disorder—A Retrospective Pilot Analysis
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2050116116000076
Nice study. The responders vs non-responders actually had very close T level increases (150 vs 129) but the responders had significantly greater drop in prolactin. It was stated that "Of the 87 men undergoing concomitant testosterone therapy during cabergoline treatment, 51 were responders and 36 were non-responders (P ¼ .02) to cabergoline, accounting for 58.6% of all responders and 81.8% of all non-responders."

It is worth noting that cabergoline has many different binding sites. See Binding Profile in Cabergoline - Wikipedia

Another thing lacking is: what was the magnitude of improvement for the responders? Of course, any improvement is welcome with such a frustrating problem. But it is incorrect the assume all these people were completely 'cured'.

To make things interesting, here is a study indicating that low prolactin can contribute to sexual dysfunction. Low prolactin is associated with sexual dysfunction and psychological or metabolic disturbances in middle-aged and elderly men: the European Male A... - PubMed - NCBI
 
Sorry I forgot to mention I recovered from primary hypogonadism with HCG and serms. I also had zero sexual attraction, libido, arousal. And guess what clever dick? That's all gone.

So because it worked with you it means it will work with certainty on someone else ?
Some people with persistent libido issues post AAS use dont even have hypogonadism

I probably missed something i doubt anyone can be that dense
 
He said is it possible why can you not understand that question? The answer is yes it is possible, but not for everyone. Get an oxford dictionary young man.
 
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