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I hate ampules
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JackSkel
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No way. 2% BA is considered high. There’s no reason for 10% BA.
JackSkel
Member
The price for pharma in europe, not a big price
You can buy quality 5 ml vials and open only 4 amps at a time
canadian mutant
Well-known Member
ampules are so visually pleasing but the truth is they suck absolute dick to use
rokkrul3r
New Member
i had deus susta amps for a long time, used them just because expiration date was nearing
i was annoyed at first, but then I mastered opening and drawing from them effortlessly (with 27g 1/2")
im full of vials now, but i miss the amps
i feel like an old school doctor using that shit
i was annoyed at first, but then I mastered opening and drawing from them effortlessly (with 27g 1/2")
im full of vials now, but i miss the amps
i feel like an old school doctor using that shit
baxter0312
Member
I read somewhere that a study done at hospitals revealed that a significant amount of glass particulates remained even after using filter needles. I’m going to start using filter needles and then a second filtration with some other filter. Crazy stuff…
Mind sharing the article?
baxter0312
Member
It’s actually in the wikipedia
Contamination concernsEdit
Glass-particle contamination is of ongoing concern, with patients who receive medication parenterally, such as intravenously under hospital care, at greater risk of receiving glass particulates when medication is aspirated.[10] A 2016 study of 180 ampoules found 19,473 glass particles in aspirated fluids, with filtering only reducing the mean by 114 to 89 particles per ampoule. Glass particle contamination of an ampule occurred with all intravenous injection methods.[11]
AlexDavis43
Member
what the fuck?
Edit: I found the study but am unsure of the implications. They make it sound like half of all injections of gear from amps should be incredibly painful... but they're not
Glass contamination in parenterally administered medication - PubMed
Our results support the existing literature in that larger bore unfiltered needles increased the risk of aspirating more glass and other particles than smaller bore or filter needles. These data add further support to the use of filtered needles in administering IM medications to patients who...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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grapejuice
New Member
I've left filled syringes for up to a month with no issues so far always with an unused needle on there rather than with the one used to draw just in case.
baxter0312
Member
Safety concerns with glass particle contamination: improving the standard guidelines for preparing medication injections
AbstractBackground. Glass ampoules are widely used to contain injection medications because of their properties. However, the existing literature reports that g
academic.oup.com
Interpretation within the context of the broader literature
We found that the number of glass particles differed by breaking method and ampoule size. Breaking the ampoule using a cotton ball (Methods 3 and 4) resulted in fewer glass particles than breaking the ampoule using a gauze pad (Methods 1 and 2) or a syringe wrapper (Methods 5 and 6). An explanation for this finding is that the material used to wrap the ampoule neck affected the number of glass particles. In Methods 1 and 2 (gauze pad) and 5 and 6 (syringe wrapper), the ampoule neck was entirely covered by a protective wall, meaning the broken glass particles fell from all around the ampoule neck into the broken ampoule. In contrast, in Methods 3 and 4, a cotton ball was used to wrap the ampoule neck on only one side, meaning the glass particles drop into the broken ampoule from that side. In general, because of glass ampoule sealing, the pressure inside a glass ampoule is negative; when the glass ampoule is opened, the glass particles are drawn into the ampoule [12]. Our findings indicated that material that was entirely or partially covering the ampoule neck affected the number of glass particles.Furthermore, breaking the ampoule in an outward direction (Methods 1, 3 and 5) resulted in fewer glass particles than breaking the ampoule in an inward direction (Methods 2, 4 and 6). This finding suggested that the direction of ampoule breaking was associated with the number of glass particles. Therefore, the number of glass particles depends on both the wrapping technique and the breaking direction. Consistent with prior studies, our findings showed that the breaking method affected the number of glass particles [4, 10].
baxter0312
Member
Who knew a cotton ball would be better than an amp opener
baxter0312
Member
Here’s the good news, how much of that contamination is getting through a 28 or 29g needle?
“Particles smaller than 83 µm can be aspirated through an 18G needle in a more significant number and size than aspirated through a 20G needle (diameter 60 µm). From previous studies, it is observed that withdrawing injected medication through a smaller-sized needle can minimize glass particles’ number and size [6, 11, 20–22]. Therefore, using a smaller needle can expel larger-sized glass particles better than using a larger needle.”
“Particles smaller than 83 µm can be aspirated through an 18G needle in a more significant number and size than aspirated through a 20G needle (diameter 60 µm). From previous studies, it is observed that withdrawing injected medication through a smaller-sized needle can minimize glass particles’ number and size [6, 11, 20–22]. Therefore, using a smaller needle can expel larger-sized glass particles better than using a larger needle.”
A filter needle is 5 microns. I can't imagine needing more than that unless your turning the glass into powder.
baxter0312
Member
I’ve used syringe barrel and so many other cylindrical shaped objects. You can wrap the amp head with a rubber band for a snug fit. I’ve used the closed end of a small wrench.
One thing I just thought of that the article didn’t mention: with the cotton ball the glass will embed in the cotton and not just fall down inside.
AlexDavis43
Member
This can't possibly have the implications that are being suggested here.
I've used hundreds of amps over the years. If anyone was going to end up with shards of glass in their body, it'd be me. I withdrawal with 18 gauge and inject with 21 gauge.
I get a little PIP every now and then but not what I imagine would happen from injecting shards of glass.
