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If primo nuked my e2, will masteron do the same?
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F41l0r1337
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up the test
Mast doesn’t tank my estradiol at all. But it definitely helps from letting it become a problem on a moderate blast with aromatizing compounds.
Primo OTOH, tanks my estrogen and makes me feel like garbage overall.
Mast is one of my favorite compounds but you need to be fairly lean to appreciate its effectiveness and results. But even if fat and fluffy, I would still call it a feel-good steroid. Just won’t notice much physique change when fluffy.
Primo OTOH, tanks my estrogen and makes me feel like garbage overall.
Mast is one of my favorite compounds but you need to be fairly lean to appreciate its effectiveness and results. But even if fat and fluffy, I would still call it a feel-good steroid. Just won’t notice much physique change when fluffy.
Eddie.
Member
I don't see any before - after e2 numbers as well as no dosages of test and primo so i assume this is based on feels? There's a chance primo made you feel like shit without tanking your e2.. There are quite few guys lately saying the same thing about libido, erections and overall state of mind. It would be nice tho if you have bloodwork before and after to post this so we can take an idea.
buzzingonaas
Member
If you’re anything like me, no. You’ll have to run it for yourself. At 500 test, 400 primo I still felt kinda shitty and e2 was max 22. At 400 test, 400 mast I feel great and could probably up the mast and still feel fine. Primo nukes my e2, mast makes me feel good
buzzingonaas
Member
I’ll get bloodwork soon on mast to compare with. However I do have bloodwork on 500 test/400 primo where my e2 was 1/3 of what it was on 200 test/70 primo
lukiss96
Member
I don't get this e2 lowering effect neither from eq, primo, mast. Regulation? Sure dhts help me manage estrogen better, but I still need AI regardless if I use them, just quite a bit less. I have found winstrol to be the strongest in this case.
buzzingonaas
Member
The screenshots with collection date 10/12/23 was 500T/400Primo (Probablt closer to 600T, 450 Primo as I was overdrawing like crazy)
1/15/24 was 200 Test, 70 primo
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brutalbuilt
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no mast acts as an serm primo acts as an AI
Eddie.
Member
On 200/70 you were still feeling shit with 45 e2 or better? You're just one of the many guys that need to run test higher and honestly if you're not having sides from pushing test higher i don't see why it would be a bad idea of taking 750 test and 400 primo for example instead of taking 500 test and 700 masteron.
As far as i can understand people search for a second anabolic when they hit the ceiling with test and the side effects don't worth to push it higher. For us gymbros and low level competitive bbers who still trying to put some good mass on perhaps pushing test higher is a better choice.
I'm no expert at all dude, just saying my opinion..but when i see guys that wanna run 200 test and push mast or primo or dhb to a gram i cringe a little and i'm talking about gymbros and average users chasing size and muscle mass because if you're ifbb pro you already have the mass and you need more of the cosmetic drugs to fine tune your physique. This is what i'm understanding so far from my research, maybe i'm wrong..
buzzingonaas
Member
No
Nope I felt pretty good on 200/70. To be fair I felt alright on 500/400 but hydration wasn’t the best and libido was meh. I think 750/400 would be great. This is what I love about primo, it allows me to run higher test which I am definitely convinced will yield better growth than the same mg of masteron.
buzzingonaas
Member
this is the type of approach my coach had me on at first: 300 Test, 500 primo. And my e2 must’ve tanked. On paper it was around 16 I believe? but I was DEHYDRATED. Literally 4 gallons of water a day, still pissing gold dehydrated. Felt angry and terrible. Once the test got higher than the primo, all that went away. I can drink 1.5gallons now and be fully hydrated. I do have a suspicion that if I were to push test higher than 500 and leave primo at 400, I’d only feel better. Maybe trying to get my e2 into the high 30s would likely feel pretty good.
focal
New Member
Very interesting subject. I am about to run some primo with test e. from what I have read its better to start at a 2:1 Test primo rather than a 1:1. I would imagine that it has a lot to do how your body is processing the test. Primo seems to have AI properties that need to be accounted for and the processing that your body does of the test in transformation to Estrogen will dictate how much primo you will be able to run and/or the ratio you run with test.
Eddie.
Member
Haha, shit man..i can only imagine! I haven't crashed my e2 yet but honestly i'm the worst individual to interpret symptoms based on feels. Literally, i've been as low as 24 and as high as 106. I was feeling exactly the same. I really believe if i couldn't pull bloods i may have been walking around with tanked e2 or 200 e2 and not notice anything, unless severe symptoms took place haha.
Exactly. I think at 750mg mark Test you getting close to a pretty beneficial range of androgen load. At this range u can add second or even a third anabolic and play with heavy dosages for a long long period of time. I can't even imagine what 3+ grams of test like Chase is doing feels like. Man!
I've started 275 test and 150 primo 2 weeks ago, in 2 weeks i'm gonna pull bloods and see where my e2 stands.
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
I have never seen it lower e2. I run mast and check bloods pretty regularly.
Primo definitely tanked mine
mason31033
New Member
I run mast almost year round. Never crashed my e2 and always feel good on it and libido is insane.
Primo on the other hand makes me feel like shit, no libido, soft erections.. tried it twice even with high dose of test ratio still the same.. never touching primo again lol
Primo on the other hand makes me feel like shit, no libido, soft erections.. tried it twice even with high dose of test ratio still the same.. never touching primo again lol
focal
New Member
How many mg of primo did you run?
