IGF-1 LR3.....WHAT WILL IT DO FOR ME ???

[JayWaWa]

What real IGF-1 will do for you:
Grow your heart(left ventricle in particular), your prostate, your intestines and thicken your skin. Look at dave palumbos skin in one of his recent videos, thats what youre in for long term.

Not worth it. Stick with low doses of anabolics alone like the golden era guys did that are now in their 60's-70's not dropping like flies in their 30's-40's like these insulin/hgh idiots obsessed with high IGF-1.

Bottom line is, do what you want, but to build a great physique, crazy high IGF levels via either exogenous IGF-1 or Insulin & HGH are not necessary. Arnold, Columbo, Zane and many other golden era physiques demonstrate this.

 

[Wunderpus]

Okay, so thats a no. Of course youre on team "shit on IGF-1". Youve never used it, every person who has used it and provided input has said if works VERY well.

I'm on team "shit on eating rat poison", but, I've never tried it... Does that make me wrong? No. Not trying something because you've determined it is likely a waste of money, after in-depth research, doesn't make you ill-informed about the subject...

Now, I'm on team "maybe IGF-1 LR3 does SOMETHING".... It's a big MAYBE. I've taken products labeled "IGF-1 LR3" in the past, and there was a substantial response.... Mostly an almost crippling pump during my workouts, truly, painful almost. Now, what does that mean? Hmm, not a WHOLE lot.... I also worry that LR3 cannot bind properly to IGF-1 receptors... Or, does not elicit the same response as standard IGF-1....

 

[Wunderpus]

What real IGF-1 will do for you:
Grow your heart(left ventricle in particular), your prostate, your intestines and thicken your skin. Look at dave palumbos skin in one of his recent videos, thats what youre in for long term.

Not worth it. Stick with low doses of anabolics alone like the golden era guys did that are now in their 60's-70's not dropping like flies in their 30's-40's like these insulin/hgh idiots obsessed with high IGF-1.

Bottom line is, do what you want, but to build a great physique, crazy high IGF levels via either exogenous IGF-1 or Insulin & HGH are not necessary. Arnold, Columbo, Zane and many other golden era physiques demonstrate this.

Do you not believe AAS increase systemic IGF-1?

Comparing genetic freaks like Arnold and Columbo to your "standard" lifter isn't fair. They likely will not have the same response to the low-ish level of drugs.

 

[JayWaWa]

Do you not believe AAS increase systemic IGF-1?

Comparing genetic freaks like Arnold and Columbo to your "standard" lifter isn't fair. They likely will not have the same response to the low-ish level of drugs.

Without a doubt. Just getting on TRT at 200mg of test on a 70/30 cyp/prop "ultra test" blend my IGF was out of range high by 30 points.
So yes absolutely. Its enough.

All im im getting at is that you can achieve a phenomenal physique without slin/hgh.
However if you want to attain a freak refrigerator shape, yeah you need them.

 

[ProfessorX]

Thank you so much, Juced. Now that was a quality, fact based response which I found extremely helpful.

The IGF-1 LR3 I was given is pharma-grade, given to me from a good friend who works for a Canadian Pharmaceutical company that also produces peptides, etc. for use in a laboratory/testing environment. It has been tested and is guaranteed at 98% purity.

This is why I am not at all concerned with the quality/purity of what I have received - but only whether it will benefit me in terms of continued healing of my injury as well as gaining new muscle mass - if taken "properly".

So, my answer seems to be yes - after the info provided by Juced and other research I have done today. Saw a very compelling video from an endocrinologist/North American champion bodybuilding champion who cycles IGF-1 LR3 religiously and swears by the muscle recovery/permanent new lean mass generation properties.

"PHARMA grade IGF1 LR3" ??

What does that mean xactly?

IGF1 is what is prescribed.....Not PHARMA grade IGF1 LR3 (research pep)


The peptide IGF-1 LR3 is the most common, popular and prevalent form available right now. But, there is a big question of whether it works and by what mechanism. Originally we had a bio-identical version of igf-1, rigf-1, that was very short acting. Though it was in and out of your system very quickly it had a reputation for inducing hyperplasia (activation and maturation of muscle satellite cells).Igf-1 LR3 was developed for use in the lab in tissue cultures because the bio-idential igf-1 was not lasting in experiments. rigf-1= 70 amino acids, LR3= 83 amino acid sequence. As a result LR3 works very differently. Most in the know say that it is not going to activate satellite cells/induce hyperplasia because of it's amino acid structure. It just doesn't bind to the cells and cannot be broken down properly in the body for that purpose.

UNDERSTANDING THE IGF-1 Peptide

(basskiller)
It does, however, have insulin-like effects. I've experienced this first hand. So, used on a steroid cycle it'll boost gains just as humalog would. Do you get pumps and greater vascularity from insulin? Well, you'll get it from IGF-1 LR3 as well. And, imo, that's about it. It's all of the "insulin like" with non of the (for our purposes/hyperplasia) special "growth factor."

(IGF1 Analog - IGF1 LR3)
In chemistry, a structural analog, also known as a chemical analog or simply an analog, is a compound having a structure similar to that of another compound, but differing from it in respect of a certain component.[1][2][3]

Despite a high chemical similarity, structural analogs are not necessarily functional analogs and can have very different physical, chemical, biochemical, or pharmacological properties.[4]
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[Oldman.]

I tried IGF1 lr3 and got nothing with my cycle. Switched to test suspension, 25mg pre workout and now I am beast. Waaaay cheaper and results you can see the first use.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Hello fellow muscle enthusiasts......

Not sure if you can see my posting history, so I will brief you on my background story.

Im 40 years old, have been lifting for 25 years and cycling AAS for about 12 years. Im 5'11" and just weighed in at 244 pounds yesterday. In early May I had my right pec reattached as I blew it off the bone while warming up for the National Bench-Only record. My weight dipped to 225 by mid June, as I was just running a "light" sustanon/deca dosage to aid in a quality heal. Although im still leary to do much if any pectoral isolation exercises - I am back going very heavy on all other bodyparts and am currently running

1000mg Sustanon/wk
60 mg DBol/day
60 mg Anavar/day.

I am aware of the increased risk of liver harm from running 2 orals simultaneously - but ive run the DBol/Var combo in the past (6 weeks at a time) and it is an explosive combo for me. In 2 weeks when its time to come off the orals, I will be subbing in

Tren Enanthate 600mg/week
Equipoise 900mg/wk

in addition to the 1000mg/wk of Sustanon I am running.

Now, I was given 3x 1mg human-grade IGF-1 LR3 by a friend in the pharmaceutical business. I have no clue how to use this stuff (besides the 15-20 completely different dosing instructions ive seen on various websites).

My understanding now is that I want to inject a total of 50mcg into the muscle group I just finish training. So post shoulder workout for instance, 25mcg per delt. And that this should be run for no longer than 8 weeks.

My questions are as follows ;

1. Will this aid in the quality of heal from my pec reattachment surgery?

2. Am I correct in the dosing advice I have deciphered?

3. Since I lift 3-4 days per week - do I only inject on workout days, or also on off days? Where do I inject on off-days?

4. What kind of gains/results should I reasonably expect running this concurrently with the sustanon/tren/EQ cycle ive listed above?

I greatly appreciate any response/advice you guys can give me. As always, thanks in advance fellas.....

- KF

I don't think IGF-1 does jack shit. I have used for at least 3 cycles and didn't notice anything at all