IGF-1 LR3.....WHAT WILL IT DO FOR ME ???

[Docd187123]

Have you used it?

If I want to waste my money on something I'll go to a new upscale restaurant or buy the girlfriend a gift. At least those will give me a return on my investment.

 

[Docd187123]

I don't this is true, but its got to be the combo of the 4 that are working and I didn't gain much if any muscle on just hGH and clomid. When I added insulin and IGF-1 I gained about 5 lbs of muscle. So I would say hGH, IGF-1, and insulin are a killer combo. Way stronger than steroids IMO.

Insulin and HGH are highly synergistic on their own. Insulin also increases glycogen synthesis and storage so you didn't gain 5lbs of muscle. You gained glycogen as well as muscle. And since every gram of glycogen holds 3-4grams water you also gained water.

 

[BulgingKingFlair]

Okay, so thats a no. Of course youre on team "shit on IGF-1". Youve never used it, every person who has used it and provided input has said if works VERY well.

 

[Geterdun]

Okay, so thats a no. Of course youre on team "shit on IGF-1". Youve never used it, every person who has used it and provided input has said if works VERY well.

I'm not sure everyone said it worked very well and as a matter of fact, the member in this thread said it was mild, to try TB500. You yourself said you weren't going to use it because it was 50/50 on reviews. When one person comes in and says it worked well you jumped on board. It's ok if you want to try it. It's your body and members only give their advice that you asked for. It's your body, your free IGF-1 and you don't need anyone's approval from meso.

Hope it works well for you OP

 

[BulgingKingFlair]

Thanks Geterdun. I appreciate your outlook. There were many more opinions Ive found in the last couple days in regards to how well it has worked for certain individuals. Im not just going by the forum here. I think I only came across 1 person who had used it and was disappointed. Even still, he felt it worked but didnt think he was diligent enough with his doses.

Im gonna take it, hopefully I wont be the first guy on here saying its bunk after ive used it, lol. Im happy to admit when im wrong, so once I come back to report my results it will be the "real deal" with before and after pics too.

Thanks again.....

BKF

 

[Docd187123]

Okay, so thats a no. Of course youre on team "shit on IGF-1". Youve never used it, every person who has used it and provided input has said if works VERY well.

Do you even have an open mind if only seeing what you want to see? I've shown you objective evidence showing its no potent mass builder by any means if the imagination. You want to rely on the SUBJECTIVE assessment of someone else who was also running HGH, clomid and insulin at the same time? How the hell would you know what to attribute the gains to when running those compunds? How do you know it's not the HGH and slin???? The answer is you don't. It's a wild and incorrect assumption to think its the IGF.

You want to rely on anecdotal camp fire stories? Here's one from a friend on another board who had legit IGF-1 straight from Sigma-Aldrich:

"I have a hard time believing that you have real IGF1. I ordered 5g of IGF1-LR3 from sigma-Aldrich through a doc that had to develop his own in-vitro study (which was fake) and was thoroughly investigated before the purchase could even be made. This stuff came from a world renowned reagent protein manufacturer. It did absolutely nothing in the 6 months I took it at 100mcg every day, with GH, with AAS, and with Insulin. It was very expensive. There were no claimed massive pumps or pumps that hurt so bad couldn't lift 20lbs nor was there any other effect that is so often stated with the use of IGF1. We all know who Rich Piana is lol

Either way the thread is a great read but I just cant believe that anyone has real IFG1."

 

[BulgingKingFlair]

Do you even have an open mind if only seeing what you want to see? I've shown you objective evidence showing its no potent mass builder by any means if the imagination. You want to rely on the SUBJECTIVE assessment of someone else who was also running HGH, clomid and insulin at the same time? How the hell would you know what to attribute the gains to when running those compunds? How do you know it's not the HGH and slin???? The answer is you don't. It's a wild and incorrect assumption to think its the IGF.

You want to rely on anecdotal camp fire stories? Here's one from a friend on another board who had legit IGF-1 straight from Sigma-Aldrich:

"I have a hard time believing that you have real IGF1. I ordered 5g of IGF1-LR3 from sigma-Aldrich through a doc that had to develop his own in-vitro study (which was fake) and was thoroughly investigated before the purchase could even be made. This stuff came from a world renowned reagent protein manufacturer. It did absolutely nothing in the 6 months I took it at 100mcg every day, with GH, with AAS, and with Insulin. It was very expensive. There were no claimed massive pumps or pumps that hurt so bad couldn't lift 20lbs nor was there any other effect that is so often stated with the use of IGF1. We all know who Rich Piana is lol

Either way the thread is a great read but I just cant believe that anyone has real IFG1."

 

[BulgingKingFlair]

I do see your point. Its not gonna hurt me, and thats according to nearly ALL contributors.....since its free im gonna try it. If it hasnt done anything noticeable for fat loss, painful pumps or mass gains after a month - I will save the rest and sell the shit.

But I will report my honest unbiased findings. Yes, I can do that. And I will. Its not that I dont appreciate your well educated and proof-derived opinion - but it just seems to me the results reported from USERS have to be more than placebo.

Youre clearly a very smart guy, but lets see how honest you are. If you were given what you knew for certain was real IGF-1 LR3 - would you try it? Why or why not?

 

[Geterdun]

When you say Human Grade, what exactly do you mean? Is this Sero, Geno, etc...??? You stated a friend in the Pharmaceutical Business, is this a testing company, or research company for IGF-1? Is this GH that is actually prescribed by Doctors and on the market now, sold legally and covered by Insurance for certain health issues?

 

[weighted chinup]

Why peptides you use should be from a recombinant DNA source and not a chemically synthesized source

It's an almost pointless argument to make because peptide shops aren't selling rDNA products, all the peptides are chemically synthesized.

Beware of any RC vendor that claims to be selling rDNA peptides, I can guarantee you they are all chemically synthesized.

I saw a rep for RUI on another board claim their peptides are all recombinantly made. lol ok

 

[BulgingKingFlair]

My friend is a Senior Sales Executive for a well known North American pharmaceutical company. Im not sure for how long, or what the process is - but they also sell certain peptides which are slated for "research only" and "not human consumption".

I see that I mispoke in calling it "human grade". Thats my fault, what I meant was I guess "pharmaceutical grade". Id just say the name of the company, but im sure he wasnt supposed to give me this stuff and I dont want anyone to put 2 and 2 together and cause issues for him. Its a top 5 pharmaceutical company, youve heard of it.

Sorry for mispeaking.

 

[Docd187123]

I do see your point. Its not gonna hurt me, and thats according to nearly ALL contributors.....since its free im gonna try it. If it hasnt done anything noticeable for fat loss, painful pumps or mass gains after a month - I will save the rest and sell the shit.

But I will report my honest unbiased findings. Yes, I can do that. And I will. Its not that I dont appreciate your well educated and proof-derived opinion - but it just seems to me the results reported from USERS have to be more than placebo.

Youre clearly a very smart guy, but lets see how honest you are. If you were given what you knew for certain was real IGF-1 LR3 - would you try it? Why or why not?

I appreciate this response. Thank you.

There is some inconclusive evidence that there are health consequences of IGF1 use although I would believe them to be from chronic use and not from short term use. Like I said, the evidence isn't conclusive either.

Placebo is one hell of a drug. Just to make sure you understand how powerful it is I'll give you an example. In WWII, army medics ran out of morphine to give their patients. They ended up giving saline solution or sugar solution to some amputee patients and the patients were told it was morphine. They reported a decrease of pain FROM SALINE OR SUGAR while they were missing arms and legs.

If given IGF-1, the only time I would try it is if I was also running AAS, HGH, and insulin. Since I never plan on running slin or HGH, I would not run the IGF-1 myself. If I wanted to experiment on myself to help others I would try running it solo first then with the aforementioned compounds to see what kind of difference it made alone vs the possible synergistic qualities with them.

 

[BulgingKingFlair]

Cool. And youre welcome.

Okay, what ill do is run it for a month at 50mcg per day injected into whatever bodypart I train that day. Ill be taking it alongside a pretty strong AAS cycle. I really dont wanna get in the whole insulin/HGH game, but I will do a proper pct and then try running the igf-1 by itself after that. So a little "guinea pigging" anyway.

Thanks for ending up being cool, bro.

 

[Juced]

It's an almost pointless argument to make because peptide shops aren't selling rDNA products, all the peptides are chemically synthesized.

Beware of any RC vendor that claims to be selling rDNA peptides, I can guarantee you they are all chemically synthesized.

I saw a rep for RUI on another board claim their peptides are all recombinantly made. lol ok

why do you think they are all not doing this? thats silly... whats your basis on this from? you stat is as fact. here is a fact: is can be done and is done, because many of these places actually do sell to research institutions and by cheeping out they would be losing more money than making and any RC shop with half a brain would not risk this ( most dont have half a brain though I agree)
ofcourse they do and can do it properly. some places (most) cheap out... but it is done and RUI is actually the other place i DO use if they happen to have a better sale on than CEM.... I vouch for both and dont think they are lying, ive used them for many years now.
to say every and any RC shop is not making them properly is ludicrous to me...

at the end of the day do your research, ask for info and make up of peps and look at reviews on and OFF sponsored forums before picking a place.

 

[Leangains4life]

Thank you so much, Juced. Now that was a quality, fact based response which I found extremely helpful.

The IGF-1 LR3 I was given is pharma-grade, given to me from a good friend who works for a Canadian Pharmaceutical company that also produces peptides, etc. for use in a laboratory/testing environment. It has been tested and is guaranteed at 98% purity.

This is why I am not at all concerned with the quality/purity of what I have received - but only whether it will benefit me in terms of continued healing of my injury as well as gaining new muscle mass - if taken "properly".

So, my answer seems to be yes - after the info provided by Juced and other research I have done today. Saw a very compelling video from an endocrinologist/North American champion bodybuilding champion who cycles IGF-1 LR3 religiously and swears by the muscle recovery/permanent new lean mass generation properties.

Email bostin loyd he will tell you

 

[Ed Plucker]

Okay, so thats a no. Of course youre on team "shit on IGF-1". Youve never used it, every person who has used it and provided input has said if works VERY well.

It does work very well. You aren't going to put on 20lbs of muscle but you will be stronger and feel leaner on hGH and IGF-1. There is definitely some synergy between insulin, hGH, and IGF-1.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Cool. And youre welcome.

Okay, what ill do is run it for a month at 50mcg per day injected into whatever bodypart I train that day. Ill be taking it alongside a pretty strong AAS cycle. I really dont wanna get in the whole insulin/HGH game, but I will do a proper pct and then try running the igf-1 by itself after that. So a little "guinea pigging" anyway.

Thanks for ending up being cool, bro.

Yeah hGH and IGF-1 are really ideal for PCT. I haven't lost anything after coming off a pretty heavy cycle and my test levels are low as hell right now. But its good because Im priming my body for my next cycle which should be great.

 

[heady muscle]

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[Juced]

It's an almost pointless argument to make because peptide shops aren't selling rDNA products, all the peptides are chemically synthesized.

Beware of any RC vendor that claims to be selling rDNA peptides, I can guarantee you they are all chemically synthesized.

I saw a rep for RUI on another board claim their peptides are all recombinantly made. lol ok

so its possible to make rDNA hgh and slin in black market (think china) but a place selling igf1 (which is shorter than hgh) sounds crazy to you?

is there alot, maybe most igf1 thats made wrong by RC places? yes, sure is.. is there true igf1 from RC shops? ofcourse there is... its not that hard to make if you have the setting, i know chemists and this thread or your post would be a laugh fest for them...

there is a patent on igf1lr3 sure... so what... why do you think most comes from overseas...
i can go on and on but i digress

 

[Docd187123]

Now we're going to hear about how RUI makes legitimate IGF-1 in 3, 2, 1, ...../