IGF 1 vs GH vs OTC Secretagogues

buffhottie

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Up until today , I thought GH and IGF 1 were like pretty much the same thing?
Is one better than the other? and what about the nutrition store secretagogues? are they worth anything? I bought some Pinnacle Alpha Dopa Poppers recently and plan to use them while I am starting Anavar for the first time. Is this a good idea?
Actually what supps are good to take with Anavar?
 
Can take anything you want with Var .. Var is great for strength and vascularity and no water because no buildup of estrogen ... Even at very low doses too ... Increases in IGF is the reason HGH is good for size but HGH is better than IGF for fat lose so they say .. IGF is better for size but unless you have a good source for either your going to either get ripped or pay way too much .. AAS would be a better choice for most .. I get IGF1 long R for $50/mg and HGH for $1.80-$1.60/IU but my HGH is 192aa which some would rather 191 . so i have a great source for many things but i guess we can't have it all .. The great thing is, i can ask for a good HGH source 191aa and probably get it .. the great thing about having friends i can trust .
 
buffhottie said:
Up until today , I thought GH and IGF 1 were like pretty much the same thing?
Is one better than the other? and what about the nutrition store secretagogues? are they worth anything? I bought some Pinnacle Alpha Dopa Poppers recently and plan to use them while I am starting Anavar for the first time. Is this a good idea?
Actually what supps are good to take with Anavar?

Secretagogues are worthless.

Arginine has been shown to increase growth hormone but for practical purposes it's worthless too, primarily because you need to take a dose that is so massive that it is guaranteed to cause severe gastrointestinal distress. I suspect that intravenous arginine can actually be quite useful but can't find a source for it.
 
greyowl said:
Secretagogues are worthless.

Arginine has been shown to increase growth hormone but for practical purposes it's worthless too, primarily because you need to take a dose that is so massive that it is guaranteed to cause severe gastrointestinal distress. I suspect that intravenous arginine can actually be quite useful but can't find a source for it.
What about just IM arginine? That's what you mean by IV i guess .. in the muscle and into the blood not really direcly IV right? ... I think i can brew some up for you .. let me see how it works
 
I am most definately female:D
I posted a question in the AAS forum (Anavar for first time) so please help me out if you can.
My pic is in the gallery. I have been training and competing for a few years.
5'5" 127, 18%bf or so.

I guess I'll give the Alpha Dopa Poppers to my dog:(

MANWHORE it must be nice to have somany good 'friends' ;)
Lucky you..
Let me know when your in Seattle so I can get on the list:D
Buffhottie
 
buffhottie said:
MANWHORE it must be nice to have somany good 'friends' ;)
Lucky you..
Let me know when your in Seattle so I can get on the list:D
Buffhottie
:) OK and you let me know when your in Jersey so i can buy you a drink :D nice body, by the way .. Any front shoots or nud.... front shots lol ...
 
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I will put up some front shots later. No face though (which is sad becasue it is my best feature) but I can' t risk getting 'discovered' now can I.
and no nudity (sorry)But I'll give you a call when I am on the east coast:D

Looks like you guys aren't short on nudity around here anyway:0
You guys keep me entertained. Little did you know;)

I was just looking at the thread "which oxandrolone is best?" and you said somehting aout getting it from UG? not to be a retard ..
but what does that mean? I still haven't decided where I am getting mine from


OK I just saw you told someone else it means "underground". Makes sense...

BH
 
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UG means under ground.

UG is homebrew. Its powder that people get and mix with a bunch of types of oil and alcohol. And you got yourself home made AAS.
 
UG just means UnderGround .. I was kidding about the nudity. Have at least enough respect to not ask for that when i don't even know you .. maybe in a few weeks you can post them though ? lol .. That's OK about the face being put on board, you can just send it to me via email when you like .. I have to post some new pics myself but just not crazy about it with the tatoos but i really don't have anything to hide... I will just send them to you through email and you tell me what you think .. I need some competition to motivate me .. wish i had a friend who was serious about BBing so we can bet who looks best or makes better gains/loses in say 1 month .. I just always needed that little push but then i get very serious. Training hard isn't so bad for me it's strict with diet eating more than 2X/day that i just hate .. OK enough about me :) .. hope i'm going out tonight because i really want to see some pretty girls ...
 
OH and ....


SHES MINE MANWHORE BACKOFF!!!!


buffhottie when your on the east coast and you want some young dick hit me up. Im dead sexy. lol
 
unt0ld said:
Its powder that people get and mix with a bunch of types of oil and alcohol.
Untold Laboratories .. so Mr. Untold i would like to take a closer look at your operation .. Well let me explain it to you .. " See what we do is take some powder blahh blahh blahh mix it with some type of oil and alcohol blahh blahh blahh and there you have it" OOOO KKKK i have to go now but we will call you . don't call us, we will call you :D
 
untold,
Young is great but are you old enough to buy me a drink?
Also, I like my hotels 5 star if you don't mind..
I will have to distract the hubby with his own little hottie???
got a sister?
 
unt0ld said:
OH and ....


SHES MINE MANWHORE BACKOFF!!!!


buffhottie when your on the east coast and you want some young dick hit me up. Im dead sexy. lol
No NO NO you didn't just write that .. That's not nice .. Besides you have your girl or do you .. ??
 
MH
Your funny:D
I like you. In between my soccer-momming and picking up legos and keeping the hubby happy, maybe I can find a few minutes where me and you can just spoon:p
just bond a little and be buddies...;)
No harm done....
BH
 
ok Im srry the tren got the better of me.

That was a very rude thing to say, srry.

But hell yeah I can buy you a drink.
 
unt0ld said:
ok Im srry the tren got the better of me.

That was a very rude thing to say, srry.

But hell yeah I can buy you a drink.
After now knowing where you are heading, i can see why you said that .. you are a horny little boy :)
 
buffhottie said:
MH
Your funny:D
I like you. In between my soccer-momming and picking up legos and keeping the hubby happy, maybe I can find a few minutes where me and you can just spoon:p
just bond a little and be buddies...;)
No harm done....
BH
Most girls say i am funny. that is my way of luring them in. then before they know it, i have them right where i want them :cool: .. yes Bonding. I like bonding .. i really can use a female buddy. it's hard to find those .. Well i find them and then they always seem to become more than buddies .. but we are all human, so those things will happen
 
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