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borrachopower
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Igf
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Big Trav
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I wouldn't run any less than 20mcg's at the least. I am experimenting right now with 20mcg's /day. I'm gonna run it for about 3 weeks, take a break of 4 weeks, then finish up with 3 more weeks. I am into the 3rd week right now and have had real good results...the only thing I will probably change the next go around, will be to up the dosage to either 40 or 50 mcg's/day.
MANWHORE
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I read a post awhile ago saying that a couple of pros where having good results with 10-15mcg/day. The Pro BBers said that anything more will just be wasted on organ growth and not muscles. I tried it for a few days,and i noticed my sexdrive went through the roof. I will be using the rest of it very soon,and i'll post results.Also,1mg IGF usually comes in 1-2ml of BA,which makes it very hard to get out 15mcg,unless you add more BA. Everyone should know not to add the BW into the bottle,so increasing BA would be the way around it.
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I was reading an article by dave palumbo and he recommends 10-20mcg per day he feels that any more than this and the igf1 muscle cells become saturated and all the excess igf1 goes straight to the highest naturally occuring concentrations of igf1 receptors eg feet hands and facial bones
einstein1905
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j martini said:
Yeah, that's the Palumbo theory, but it hasn't been proven in any way. The receptor saturation thing isn't very sound. You have to consider the muscle injected, the state the muscle is in (post w/o or not), as well as individual factors. You'll hear many people saying that they started at low doses but didn't get results until they bumped it up. For IGF-1, you'd have to shoot a whole lot into a muscle before any, if possible at all, of it to go systemic. I think starting at a low dose makes sense, so you can guage for yourself how YOU react, but making a blanket statement and saying 20mcgs is the best isn't sound, nor do I think it's very accurate.
Big Trav
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I agree. Everyone is still in "experimental" mode right now. This is a fairly new product so everyone is trying different things to see what works. Palumbo is usually right on with his anabolic advice, but I think he's a little off on this one.
borrachopower
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pics
i ran my own "experiment' when i first got a hold of the IGF, i bumped the pic up on the member picture section. it worked for me at a low dose, but it may not work for all...
THREAD: "3 month old pics"
i ran my own "experiment' when i first got a hold of the IGF, i bumped the pic up on the member picture section. it worked for me at a low dose, but it may not work for all...
THREAD: "3 month old pics"
da game
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I run 60 mcg a day after workouts. If used prperly, it helps out a lot.
Big Trav
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I started right after a bulker cycle...weight was about 240...started dieting about 4 weeks ago...weight is still holding around 232...and starting to get vascular through the shoulders and arms. Can't really notice any size difference yet, but the pumps are almost painfull.
chadjmason
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IGF-1 and dosing
I was told that you should take between 20-120. this is a wide range.
I got 5mg and was going to split it between the beginning of the cycle and
the end of it. I was going to go with 60mcg/day for a month and afer a
month off, was going to hit 100mcg/day for another 30 days. From what I
am hearing, I may drop that down considerable, since people are saying 15 to
20mcg/day. If that is truly the case, then I got way too much IGF-1. To
think I was considering buying 20mg, lmao. If anyone has any true experience,
not just what they heard, e-mail me at chadjmason@cs.com.
I was told that you should take between 20-120. this is a wide range.
I got 5mg and was going to split it between the beginning of the cycle and
the end of it. I was going to go with 60mcg/day for a month and afer a
month off, was going to hit 100mcg/day for another 30 days. From what I
am hearing, I may drop that down considerable, since people are saying 15 to
20mcg/day. If that is truly the case, then I got way too much IGF-1. To
think I was considering buying 20mg, lmao. If anyone has any true experience,
not just what they heard, e-mail me at chadjmason@cs.com.
atlas
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igf=1
should you inject it twice a day? like in the morning and another in the afternoon.
should you inject it twice a day? like in the morning and another in the afternoon.
einstein1905
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you'll get people saying to do it this way, but I'd say just once after lifting in the muscles worked is better. Most people have just done it 2x/day without trying it both ways. No one cay say for sure which way is betteratlas said:
Einstein,
There are studies on IGF-1 LR3 going back to 1993. I may have misunderstood you but I don't recall any of them saying anything about the IGF-1 LR3 staying localized within the injected muscle.
To whomever already bought a bunch of IGF and wondered how much to use, somewhere around 50mcg/day, once a day after your workout works well. I've never used less than that but others whom I've spoken with who have, were virtually unanimously unimpressed with the lower dosages.
Be advised, I know of people who saw zero benefit and have had detailed conversations with them and can tell you that IGF-1 LR3 is not a drug everyone responds to. It's expensive and Not something 95% of the people on this board should even consider. There are possibly serious side effects.
Personally, I find the insulin and IGF concern illogical and have used IGF-1 LR3 at 65mcg/day with 8iu's insulin at the same time. And was also concurrently using 1,500mg's/week injectables and 350 mg/week oral AAS. The results were reasonable.
MaxRep
There are studies on IGF-1 LR3 going back to 1993. I may have misunderstood you but I don't recall any of them saying anything about the IGF-1 LR3 staying localized within the injected muscle.
To whomever already bought a bunch of IGF and wondered how much to use, somewhere around 50mcg/day, once a day after your workout works well. I've never used less than that but others whom I've spoken with who have, were virtually unanimously unimpressed with the lower dosages.
Be advised, I know of people who saw zero benefit and have had detailed conversations with them and can tell you that IGF-1 LR3 is not a drug everyone responds to. It's expensive and Not something 95% of the people on this board should even consider. There are possibly serious side effects.
Personally, I find the insulin and IGF concern illogical and have used IGF-1 LR3 at 65mcg/day with 8iu's insulin at the same time. And was also concurrently using 1,500mg's/week injectables and 350 mg/week oral AAS. The results were reasonable.
MaxRep
john_phillips
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Personal results:
I used IGF LR3 for three weeks on, three weeks off, three weeks on, three weeks off...30 mcg post AM workout, w/ 10IU insulin and 30 mcg post PM workout w/10 IUs unsulin. Concurrent use w/ 1 gram test, 400 mg EQ. 40 mg dbol a day for the first six weeks. Novladex @ 20mg/day for the first 6 weeks. Arimidex @ .3 mcg/day for the following 6 weeks. Mode of delivery - IM.
I didn't see increased strength, decreased recovery times or noticeably quicker gains overall. The IM injections did caused slight localized growth in my quads. I did however have problems when using in my triceps. (I posted about this a few weeks ago...search if you are curious). I believe the high BA content damaged something in my tri's...from the approx site of inject down towards my elbow, I have lost the ability to contract my tricep. The top half contracts fine, but the bottom half feels mushy...no matter how hard I force, I have lost the ability to contract the lower part of my tricep. Be VERY cautious of that.
Without a large sum of money just laying around, I don't foresee future use until or unless PROVEN, backed results are published. The $$ spent would probably have been better suited buying other gear a few good porterhouses cuts.
JaPe
I used IGF LR3 for three weeks on, three weeks off, three weeks on, three weeks off...30 mcg post AM workout, w/ 10IU insulin and 30 mcg post PM workout w/10 IUs unsulin. Concurrent use w/ 1 gram test, 400 mg EQ. 40 mg dbol a day for the first six weeks. Novladex @ 20mg/day for the first 6 weeks. Arimidex @ .3 mcg/day for the following 6 weeks. Mode of delivery - IM.
I didn't see increased strength, decreased recovery times or noticeably quicker gains overall. The IM injections did caused slight localized growth in my quads. I did however have problems when using in my triceps. (I posted about this a few weeks ago...search if you are curious). I believe the high BA content damaged something in my tri's...from the approx site of inject down towards my elbow, I have lost the ability to contract my tricep. The top half contracts fine, but the bottom half feels mushy...no matter how hard I force, I have lost the ability to contract the lower part of my tricep. Be VERY cautious of that.
Without a large sum of money just laying around, I don't foresee future use until or unless PROVEN, backed results are published. The $$ spent would probably have been better suited buying other gear a few good porterhouses cuts.
JaPe
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JaPe,
Very interesting and very much inline with the experiences of some of the others with whom I've spoken. Personally, I felt there was a difference but not substantial enough to outweigh the risks and cost.
As for your tricep, it sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me in my calf after calf injections with Tren Acetate. Scared the hell out of me for the longest time but, my calf has finally recovered. It took one year!
MaxRep
Very interesting and very much inline with the experiences of some of the others with whom I've spoken. Personally, I felt there was a difference but not substantial enough to outweigh the risks and cost.
As for your tricep, it sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me in my calf after calf injections with Tren Acetate. Scared the hell out of me for the longest time but, my calf has finally recovered. It took one year!
MaxRep
john_phillips
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MaxRep said:
ARGGH!
Damn...one year....
You have a PM.
thanks.
JaPe
