Incline Not Growing Your chest? Here's why!

[Deleted member 123722]

ill leave this here:


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Is Doug Brignole's Biomechanics Math Wrong? Ft. Kassem Hanson
Mike Israetel - Resensitization, Debating Joel Seedman and Doug Brignole, Placebo Effect

Yes, I watched and spoke to Kassem, so I've incorporated specific compounds back into my workout. But I still don't do shoulder presses or inclines.

 

[eery]

Yes, I watched and spoke to Kassem, so I've incorporated specific compounds back into my workout. But I still don't do shoulder presses or inclines.

care to share what you learned?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

care to share what you learned?

the lat pull in, isn't the best lat exercise for example, because the lats, when pulling from the front, actually stretches around the rib cage when you pull from the front, so it changes the mechanics and does allow it.

Kassem talks about it in the vide with Adel. Israetel didn't do a good job refuting Doug because he didn't consume Doug's stuff like Kassem did - he actually bough his material and read his book.

 

[Chewbacca]

Actrually another exercise that an old friend of mine taught me was to grab a dumbell, hold it with both hands, push your chest up, then just raise your arms up while flexing your pecs, its like a front raise but your pec is flexed and you're not going high enough to engage delts.

I didn't quite understand what I was talking about from the explanations. If you can video, how to make it. thank you in advance

 

[Givemeroidsorgivemedeath]

Yes, I watched and spoke to Kassem, so I've incorporated specific compounds back into my workout. But I still don't do shoulder presses or inclines.

What you do for shoulders?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

What you do for shoulders?

all I do for shoulders are lateral raises, rear delts, and shrugs; my front delts get worked when I do chest movements on chest/back day

 

[Chewbacca]

all I do for shoulders are lateral raises, rear delts, and shrugs; my front delts get worked when I do chest movements on chest/back day

I like lifting dumbbells in front of me on the front deltas with a reverse grip with a pause at the top point of the amplitudes. When I do 20-30 repetitions in 5 sets, my shoulders burn like hell

 

[Jpmerr2021]

Now, I just happen to have great chest development, but my chest grows no matter what I do (genetics), but I can say the incline press never felt good, and always beat up my shoulders.

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But for those of you who believe in the incline press, and do it religiously, yet don't see any results, here's why. But even those of you who think it's working the upper pecs, you'd be surprised how it's not.


View: https://youtu.be/FG0VgreC52E


Now the only movements I do are flat dumbbell press, decline hammer press, machine or cable flies.

Some of you may have noticed that I'm sharing a lot of Doug Brignole's stuff lately, well, I'm the kind of person that, when he learns the truth about things, even if it goes against everything we were taught as bodybuilders, feels obligated to share. So I will be sharing more things to come about certain movements because I know many won't buy his book and read it. However, one of the reasons Doug wrote his book was to help lifters spare their joints and avoid injuries, and many exercises are more prone to injury than others. The incline bench is very risky, not only for rotators cuffs, but for the pecs themselves.

I mean… not to shit in your cornflakes or nothing but… The only chest injuries I have ever had have come from flat bench press.

 

[jJjburton]

I mean… not to shit in your cornflakes or nothing but… The only chest injuries I have ever had have come from flat bench press.

Yea this guy spews broscience all day

Its rough when people get there info from youtube channels all day

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I mean… not to shit in your cornflakes or nothing but… The only chest injuries I have ever had have come from flat bench press.

Only flat bench?

Have your forgotten this one?

http://www.fitneshub.com/news/ryan-crowley-horrible-accident/

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I've gone back to doing SOME basic compound movements but I still use Doug's principles do dictate which exercises go with the best anatomical motion, and of course, are the safest. It is also much safer to use dumbells for pressing than barbells.

Have you every seen someone tear a pec doing flat dumbell press? I haven't. It's from doing barbell movements which create a "friction force" because your hands are literally "stuck" in those positions, causing further strain on everything.

So if you insist on doing incline presses, at least use dumbells.

 

[Jpmerr2021]

Only flat bench?

Have your forgotten this one?

http://www.fitneshub.com/news/ryan-crowley-horrible-accident/

Lol is that supposed to invalidate my point or something?? Because it doesn’t.

For a start Ryan Crowley was completely ego lifting and showing off hence the reason he got injured. Secondly there are nowhere near the amount of injuries on incline as there is flat bench. Thirdly, all my chest injuries have still been from flat bench.

 

[Jin23]

Now, I just happen to have great chest development, but my chest grows no matter what I do (genetics), but I can say the incline press never felt good, and always beat up my shoulders.

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But for those of you who believe in the incline press, and do it religiously, yet don't see any results, here's why. But even those of you who think it's working the upper pecs, you'd be surprised how it's not.


View: https://youtu.be/FG0VgreC52E


Now the only movements I do are flat dumbbell press, decline hammer press, machine or cable flies.

Some of you may have noticed that I'm sharing a lot of Doug Brignole's stuff lately, well, I'm the kind of person that, when he learns the truth about things, even if it goes against everything we were taught as bodybuilders, feels obligated to share. So I will be sharing more things to come about certain movements because I know many won't buy his book and read it. However, one of the reasons Doug wrote his book was to help lifters spare their joints and avoid injuries, and many exercises are more prone to injury than others. The incline bench is very risky, not only for rotators cuffs, but for the pecs themselves.

I'd say it depends on how you do your bench pressing. Specifically; do you arch or not.

On a flat bench, if you have a medium - steep arch, what you might just be doing is a decline(-ish) press and if you are also arching on the incline, it's probably going to be, in regards of mechanics, more of a neutral - light incline press.

I have a high medium arch, my lower back is super flexible, and I benefit a lot from incline pressing. It really nicely grows my upper pecks. And I almost consider flat benching to be decline benching.