Injectable Glutathione Recipe

[Mac81]

I had one other thing to add, somebody asked me about the pH of L-Carnitine and glutathione.. I never did get to check it but I did inject it quite a few times, when you would pull the needle out and sometimes you would get a slight leak out of the vein ,It had a little bit of bite to it, and would burn leaving a slight bump for a couple hours, so I would say the pH is definitely not 7, probably closer to 5, that's when it seems to like to dissolve..This new recipe that I made, is as smooth as water, I'm confident you could inject it right into your muscle and feel nothing. It does take a second to pull up into the needle though, very thick! I have it refrigerated ,and It almost takes on an oil like consistency once you get it up to that high of a concentration. You can IV it with a 31 gauge needle quite easily just a pain to fill, probably be a lot easier to just backfill it..

 

[Duke309]

I forgot to add ,It starts to go into solution really well as soon as you get around a pH of 5.0 ... You will start out at 3 something, And it's not very soluble at that point but as soon as you get around 5.0, that's when it really starts to clear up.. It's not necessary to take it to a 7.0 to get it crystal clear but I did anyways because that seems like the most neutral solution as far as injecting something..I don't know if it's necessary to use food grade sodium hydroxide but I did anyways since it's something we are injecting, If it's safe enough to eat I'm sure it's safe enough to inject. You still have to add Crystal's probably.. five times I'm guessing.. you only add a few beads at a time, And it'll bring the pH up about .5 each time.. you just have to be careful The very first time I did it, I was trying to get a feel for how much it would take and I over shot it up to a 10.0 and had to toss that batch out. If I was guessing by eyeballing it, I would say like 10 or 20 mg at a time

When you add the NaOH, make sure you wait a few minutes before you try to test pH or add more. It won't dissolve instantly. I did the same thing you did at first, tried to use a 10% solution and it was taking too much. Then just started to add pure NaOH pellets instead.

I would try to keep the pH slightly below 7 just incase to reduce oxidation of the glutathione.

 

[Mac81]

When you add the NaOH, make sure you wait a few minutes before you try to test pH or add more. It won't dissolve instantly. I did the same thing you did at first, tried to use a 10% solution and it was taking too much. Then just started to add pure NaOH pellets instead.

I would try to keep the pH slightly below 7 just incase to reduce oxidation of the glutathione.

I was about to add that! You took the words out of my mouth! It does rise slowly.. it also drops back down slightly after it levels out... You get a little bit of a spike up and then down as the NAOH dissolves..It's crucial you monitor it with the meter continuously.. I also noticed the pH lowers if it's stirred to quickly and gets air bubbles in the solution..I was getting a much more stable reading if I stopped stirring it temporarily to take a reading .. I settled at about a 6.8 when I was finished.. It's definitely not something you can rush. You have to give it time to to let the pH stabilize. It takes a little bit of finesse especially the closer you get to 7.0

 

[Rakusa]

Regarding filtering, what are you guys using?

I think I made a mistake in the past. I didn't filter my final solution, I filled my brew into a sterile glass flask (100ml), added a filter spike with air vent on it (0,45um air vent and 5um particle filter) but I now think 5um might not be enough, I read 0,2um is suggested, which is a lot tighter? any input appreciated.

 

[Photon]

Regarding filtering, what are you guys using?

I think I made a mistake in the past. I didn't filter my final solution, I filled my brew into a sterile glass flask (100ml), added a filter spike with air vent on it (0,45um air vent and 5um particle filter) but I now think 5um might not be enough, I read 0,2um is suggested, which is a lot tighter? any input appreciated.

5um doesnt do anything. Maybe filters pieces of rubber.
You can probably use .22um or .1um with liquid based products like this.

 

[Mac81]

I used a standard .2 um when I was finished.. I don't have anything smaller on hand anyways..

 

[Rakusa]

I used a standard .2 um when I was finished.. I don't have anything smaller on hand anyways..

How long does it take on average to filter like 100ml of carnitine based glutathione? given the fact the glutathione is pretty thick. dont your hands hurt from the pressure on the syringe?

 

[Mac81]

Hell no .. that stuff blew through there so easy it was like filtering water . especially the l- carnitine based,it's much thinner than the pure glutathione I made yesterday. a trick I learned is to not use the 60 mil syringe.. try a 3 or 5 mil syringe once,it vastly increases your pressure generated.. I can fill a 10 mil vial of any oil based steroid,as fast as I can push down the plunger..it's game changing,suck the syringe full two times and you have a full vial,I used to bust a nut using 60 mil syringes, bending the handle on a caulking gun... until I figured that out a smaller syringe multiplies your pressure advantage by 10. Just stick the needle and filter in the top of the vial, fill the syringe full screw it in quick and push down the plunger unscrew it suck it full screw it back in and push the plunger, you can fill a vial in 15-20 seconds that way.. once I figured that out I haven't touched one of those big syringes since, I know it sounds crazy but I filled a 100mil vial like that of test c, there's literally no effort pushing the plunger at all It's like you're squeezing air out, you just have to keep on screwing it and filling it up, it'll blow your mind, If all you're used to is using those big ass syringes, and the insane amount of of pressure it takes to push oil through them

 

[niqTM]

Hell no .. that stuff blew through there so easy it was like filtering water .

Awesome information

I just finished my second batch, and this time I added hydroxocobalamin (vitamin B12).

17 ml of bacteriostatic water

17 g of L-carnitine base

6 g of reduced glutathione

2 ml (10 mg) of hydroxocobalamin

1.2 g of sodium bicarbonate

Final pH: 6.5

Total volume: 36 ml


Final concentrations:

Carnitine: 470 mg/ml

Glutathione: 170 mg/ml

Vitamin B12: 0.28 mg/ml


I added the B12 ampoule at the very end of the preparation.

will inject 2 ml on the days I target large muscles, and 1 ml on the days I inject into smaller muscles.

This is awesome. I am going to try this and see if I get the same result without the hydrocobalamin.

 

[Photon]

Ima try brewing with 700mg/ml with sodium phosphate after I run out..

 

[Mac81]

Hell no .. that stuff blew through there so easy it was like filtering water . especially the l- carnitine based,it's much thinner than the pure glutathione I made yesterday. a trick I learned is to not use the 60 mil syringe.. try a 3 or 5 mil syringe once,it vastly increases your pressure generated.. I can fill a 10 mil vial of any oil based steroid,as fast as I can push down the plunger..it's game changing,suck the syringe full two times and you have a full vial,I used to bust a nut using 60 mil syringes, bending the handle on a caulking gun... until I figured that out a smaller syringe multiplies your pressure advantage by 10. Just stick the needle and filter in the top of the vial, fill the syringe full screw it in quick and push down the plunger unscrew it suck it full screw it back in and push the plunger, you can fill a vial in 15-20 seconds that way.. once I figured that out I haven't touched one of those big syringes since, I know it sounds crazy but I filled a 100mil vial like that of test c, there's literally no effort pushing the plunger at all It's like you're squeezing air out, you just have to keep on screwing it and filling it up, it'll blow your mind, If all you're used to is using those big ass syringes, and the insane amount of of pressure it takes to push oil through them

Seriously you got to try smaller syringe, It's f****** wild, a complete game changer, I think the hardest thing I filtered was EQ at like 400, And I still push that thick ass shit right through the filter like it was nothing with a small syringe, I used to go through caulking guns left and right because it's hard to find a good quality one anymore, If you don't find one with teeth on it they're garbage, I was always bending the handles on them from all the torque, you can even watch the the plungers twist inside a 60 ml syringe, from how hard you're squeezing it, yet you can screw small syringe into a filter and it's like you're pushing water out of it, totally different experience I would rather unscrew it and screw it back in a few times and hardly have to push it all ,than squeeze for my dear life, and keep blowing caulking guns out, lol

 

[Mac81]

Before I figured all that out, I'll tell you what I started using instead of a caulking gun, I found a big c-clamp that's used for going brake jobs on a car, It's the size of a 60 mil syringe and it has a little forked end on it, that fits the end of a syringe perfectly, I mounted it to the side of something, and would just put the syringe in it with the vial right under it,And I would just sit there and turn the screw a couple turns every 30 seconds while I was watching TV and it would just pump away, when the vial got full, I would back off the pressure on the screw, switch vials, And then turn away again, It basically runs itself as long as you give it a couple turns every now and then.

 

[sinistral]

Before I figured all that out, I'll tell you what I started using instead of a caulking gun, I found a big c-clamp that's used for going brake jobs on a car, It's the size of a 60 mil syringe and it has a little forked end on it, that fits the end of a syringe perfectly, I mounted it to the side of something, and would just put the syringe in it with the vial right under it,And I would just sit there and turn the screw a couple turns every 30 seconds while I was watching TV and it would just pump away, when the vial got full, I would back off the pressure on the screw, switch vials, And then turn away again, It basically runs itself as long as you give it a couple turns every now and then.

I like that idea. This does a good job too.

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I built this contraption and have used it successfully for several months now so I just thought I'd throw this out there as an alternative to the calking gun method.

The top portion with the dumbbell on it slides down guided by the metal bars (front and back). There is a groove for the dumbbell to rest in so it doesn't roll around. I've used as high as 15lbs without blowing out the filter (never tried 20lbs)

I'm not saying this is faster than the caulking gun method but it's nice to be able to clean up while syringes are filling up. Just keep an eye on it and swap out syringes as they...

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[JustJoe]

Regarding filtering, what are you guys using?

I think I made a mistake in the past. I didn't filter my final solution, I filled my brew into a sterile glass flask (100ml), added a filter spike with air vent on it (0,45um air vent and 5um particle filter) but I now think 5um might not be enough, I read 0,2um is suggested, which is a lot tighter? any input appreciated.

The reason people use 0.2um is because it's small enough to filter out all bacteria and most viruses. (although there are bacterio toxins that can fit through...)

A 5 micron filter really just gets out particles but does nothing in terms of sterility

 

[JustJoe]

these filtration sets are completely worth it:

Amazon.com

 

[Photon]

Before I figured all that out, I'll tell you what I started using instead of a caulking gun, I found a big c-clamp that's used for going brake jobs on a car, It's the size of a 60 mil syringe and it has a little forked end on it, that fits the end of a syringe perfectly, I mounted it to the side of something, and would just put the syringe in it with the vial right under it,And I would just sit there and turn the screw a couple turns every 30 seconds while I was watching TV and it would just pump away, when the vial got full, I would back off the pressure on the screw, switch vials, And then turn away again, It basically runs itself as long as you give it a couple turns every now and then.

I like that idea. This does a good job too.

Thread 'Alternative to Calking Gun'

Apr 7, 2024

I built this contraption and have used it successfully for several months now so I just thought I'd throw this out there as an alternative to the calking gun method.

The top portion with the dumbbell on it slides down guided by the metal bars (front and back). There is a groove for the dumbbell to rest in so it doesn't roll around. I've used as high as 15lbs without blowing out the filter (never tried 20lbs)

I'm not saying this is faster than the caulking gun method but it's nice to be able to clean up while syringes are filling up. Just keep an eye on it and swap out syringes as they...

• sinistral
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• Forum: Steroid Homebrew

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I think the hardest part is the positioning of the vial..you dont want to apply pressure to the rubber when filtering.

Why not just use something like this?..with some 30-40$ electronic speed adjustable caulking gun....? and an ultraspec 100ml vial..

Winged Infusion Set, 18G x 3/4-in, 12-in Tubing, 50/box

Product DescriptionNipro Winged Infusion Set, 18g x 3/4", 12" Tubing, 50/Box

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[sinistral]

I think the hardest part is the positioning of the vial..you dont want to apply pressure to the rubber when filtering.

Why not just use something like this?..with some 30-40$ electronic speed adjustable caulking gun....? and an ultraspec 100ml vial..

Winged Infusion Set, 18G x 3/4-in, 12-in Tubing, 50/box

Product DescriptionNipro Winged Infusion Set, 18g x 3/4", 12" Tubing, 50/Box

www.shopmedvet.com

Yep, that would work too. Then use a multi-dose vial spike on the 100mL vial if you think you might exceed the 40-50 jabs in the stopper.

 

[Sampei]

So do we have an idea on the displacement of l-carnitine and reduced glutathione or not?

Is it a blend solution of 600mg/ml carnitine 300mg/ml glutathione possible?

 

[Mac81]

I like that idea. This does a good job too.

Thread 'Alternative to Calking Gun'

Apr 7, 2024

I built this contraption and have used it successfully for several months now so I just thought I'd throw this out there as an alternative to the calking gun method.

The top portion with the dumbbell on it slides down guided by the metal bars (front and back). There is a groove for the dumbbell to rest in so it doesn't roll around. I've used as high as 15lbs without blowing out the filter (never tried 20lbs)

I'm not saying this is faster than the caulking gun method but it's nice to be able to clean up while syringes are filling up. Just keep an eye on it and swap out syringes as they...

• sinistral
• Replies: 37
• Forum: Steroid Homebrew

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Now that is fucking smart!!

 

[Mac81]

So do we have an idea on the displacement of l-carnitine and reduced glutathione or not?

Is it a blend solution of 600mg/ml carnitine 300mg/ml glutathione possible?

I don't... That is a good question and I mean to figure it out before long if somebody else doesn't. ... The only thing I did was duplicate the recipe somebody else posted on here earlier.. something tells me it's not very friendly to inject IM though.. The only thing I've ever done is IV it, and it definitely has bite to it if you miss a little bit. I never got around to checking the true PH of it