Injectable Orals

[Ironman580]

Intramuscular or Sub q?

 

[Forthewin1123]

Intramuscular or Sub q?

I always do IM..subq will probably hurt.. some orals need eo and/or guaiacol..

 

[Jestopherson]

Kind of an oxymoron

 

[Iamnatty]

What I wonder is if injectable orals work as good as taking them orally. I have some pretty negative side effect from oral pills. But they did so the job for sure

 

[e90fs]

Intravenous

 

[Forthewin1123]

What I wonder is if injectable orals work as good as taking them orally. I have some pretty negative side effect from oral pills. But they did so the job for sure

It's actually stronger in terms if you take 50mg orally only 35-40mg makes it to vlood stream.. taken.IM you get all,50mg into blood stream. Side effects are about tje same.. more toxic orals like sdrol I can tolerate longer then of I take then orally.. also I get stomach issues from taking oral steroids.. lots of medicine doesn't sit well in my stomach

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

It's actually stronger in terms if you take 50mg orally only 35-40mg makes it to vlood stream.. taken.IM you get all,50mg into blood stream. Side effects are about tje same.. more toxic orals like sdrol I can tolerate longer then of I take then orally.. also I get stomach issues from taking oral steroids.. lots of medicine doesn't sit well in my stomach

I’ve heard people say it’s less harsh on the liver.

isn’t it the same exact molecule though?

 

[Forthewin1123]

I’ve heard people say it’s less harsh on the liver.

isn’t it the same exact molecule though?

Yea I believe it's the same..
They when you take orally it passes through 2 times when you inject it goes through 1 time. I suppose that's why but it's very negligible if I remember what ive read correctly..

 

[Euricomiranda]

a curiosity, has anyone already dissolved dbol or any other oral in whysky or vodka and injected into the body?

 

[Turbo charged]

Ur bypassing the first pass on liver so yes its less toxic. Anyone says it's not is bro science. Anytime you bypass the first pass is better than going through twice.

 

[Ironman580]

Besides the supposedly less toxic thing -does anyone have experience if injectable works better then the oral or is this all broscience crap u read???

 

[cigardave007]

a curiosity, has anyone already dissolved dbol or any other oral in whysky or vodka and injected into the body?

Hell no. I've dissolved it in bicardi 151 and used it as a liquid oral.

 

[PeterBond]

Ur bypassing the first pass on liver so yes its less toxic. Anyone says it's not is bro science. Anytime you bypass the first pass is better than going through twice.

First pass metabolism is especially relevant in terms of drug bioavailability for those that are extensively metabolized by the liver. This is not the case for orally bioavailable AAS as evidenced by their relatively long half-lives. In terms of toxicity, relevance would depend on its mechanism of action. It's uncertain how AAS cause liver damage, but there are indications that it's the result of androgen receptor (AR) activation in liver cells (Anabolic androgenic steroid-induced hepatotoxicity - PubMed). As such, it's determined by the time of exposure to high concentrations of an androgen and its potency to activate the AR. Key here is that the non-oral AAS are rapidly metabolized by the liver, hence the concentration of these AAS is relatively low—in contrast to that of the orally bioavailable AAS that are strongly resistant to it. As a consequence, it's the result of prolonged exposure of the liver cells to high androgen concentrations. First pass is just a blip for it. The liver has a blood flow rate of roughly 1 liter a minute and the 17a-alkylated AAS have half-lives in the order of hours with a relatively low volume of distribution. The liver will be exposed for quite some time to high concentrations, regardless of the route of administration. As such, I doubt it's relevant for hepatotoxicity.

 

[Ironman580]

Back to the question one last time - is more effective forally or injectable (anadrol-Winstrol-dbol)- I don’t want all this bro science shit u guys look up on Google- does anyone with actual experience can answer my question!????

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Back to the question one last time - is more effective forally or injectable (anadrol-Winstrol-dbol)- I don’t want all this bro science shit u guys look up on Google- does anyone with actual experience can answer my question!????

You keep saying we spew bro science but you’ve said fuck all anything useful. No studies. No actual input or usefulness.

shit in your first and sit on it.

 

[PeterBond]

Back to the question one last time - is more effective forally or injectable (anadrol-Winstrol-dbol)- I don’t want all this bro science shit u guys look up on Google- does anyone with actual experience can answer my question!????

On the one hand you don't want 'broscience', on the other hand you want anecdotes, which is simply a form of broscience. What is it?

 

[Ironman580]

I asked the question because I wanted guys opinions based on actual usage of both oral and injectable and if it was better then the oral version as far as going are concerned - I didn’t ask for studies and scientific shit - that I already researched myself - I just want real users experiences - and I haven said anything useful bevasue I don’t know the answer that’s why I’m askin the question pineapplepuss u fukin cunt

 

[Euricomiranda]

Hell no. I've dissolved it in bicardi 151 and used it as a liquid oral.

with bicardi completely dissolved? there was no residue in the background? I'm thinking about doing the same and drinking

 

[GreenAmine]

with bicardi completely dissolved? there was no residue in the background? I'm thinking about doing the same and drinking

If it's a tablet, you will likely see solids at the bottom, as some of the additives (aka excipients) are not highly soluble in ethanol. All of the AASs that I've messed with in lab are very soluble, however, so the dianabol will solubilize readily.

 

[Turbo charged]

Inj winstrol way out does oral winny I have taken both. No way anyone can say oral is just as good as injectable if they have used both. Also if it bypass the first pass it is easier on the liver I don't care all the bs some are saying. Plus injectable is atleast 10 percent more effective at the same dose wich means less mg on inj. Compared to oral. That in itself is less toxic.