intermediate fat burning cycle?

[jamie9]

A few months ago i did my first steroid cycle (test cyp & tbol)
my weight increased dramatically, i got about 16lbs of muscle but i also got a lot of fat.
And now i just look obese, i can barely breath while walking outside.
im at about 26% bodyfat and i was 13% a few months ago.
I want to lose all this fat fast as i am now a kfc addict. what fat burner stack can i take?
i dont really care about my health as long as i dont die. I have already taken clen a few years ago and hated the cramps.

 

[mochul]

Ive already taken steroids, and clen a few years ago and i am on a proper diet but i just want to go on a cut after my dirty bulk on a fast pace.

Just taking gear does not make you knowledgeable. Actually it’s the opposite in your case since you gain that much fat on a test cycle.
You also said you are addicted to kfc so i am guessing you just take drugs to compensate for your lack of knowledge or adherence or both

 

[RekTest]

i eat in a 500 calories deficit, about 2200-2400
i do count calories in myfitnesspal.
i eat about 160-180g protein daily.

So your 6ft, 196lbs 26% bf (prolly higher) ?
You arent gonna want to hear this, but you prolly have really low muscle mass, if I were you, clean up your bulk and continue. Your talking like, what like 160 to be shredded? At 6ft you are going to be so small, and with the low muscle mass its going to be hard to cut. More muscle mass you have easier cutting is.

If you want to disregard what Im saying,
Keto and Tirz.

Take a deeeeeep dive into nutrition.

 

[jamie9]

Just taking gear does not make you knowledgeable. Actually it’s the opposite in your case since you gain that much fat on a test cycle.
You also said you are addicted to kfc so i am guessing you just take drugs to compensate for your lack of knowledge or adherence or both

i mean im not that addicted. only on the dirty bulk.
I saw that you have to eat big to get big so i ate as much as possible.
which now i see was a mistake, thats why i gained so much fat.
and i agree i did not have a knowledge to start a test and tbol cycle.

 

[mochul]

So your 6ft, 196lbs 26% bf (prolly higher)

Didn’t see his stats at all. I think all he gained from his test cycle was just fat. He took gear didn’t train and just shoved kfc because of the hunger a test cycle gives you.

 

[mochul]

i mean im not that addicted. only on the dirty bulk.
I saw that you have to eat big to get big so i ate as much as possible.
which now i see was a mistake, thats why i gained so much fat.
and i agree i did not have a knowledge to start a test and tbol cycle.

You only gained fat with this stats. If i am correct, you started your cycle at 13% body fat at 78kg at 182cm tall?

 

[jamie9]

So your 6ft, 196lbs 26% bf (prolly higher) ?
You arent gonna want to hear this, but you prolly have really low muscle mass, if I were you, clean up your bulk and continue. Your talking like, what like 160 to be shredded? At 6ft you are going to be so small, and with the low muscle mass its going to be hard to cut. More muscle mass you have easier cutting is.

If you want to disregard what Im saying,
Keto and Tirz.

Take a deeeeeep dive into nutrition.

thanks for the advice.
would you recommend starting another test cycle to build more muscle. during a cleaner bulk?

 

[jamie9]

You only gained fat with this stats. If i am correct, you started your cycle at 13% body fat at 78kg at 182cm tall?

i was 71 kg lean. i gained 18kg half of that was muscle and the other half was fat

 

[jamie9]

Didn’t see his stats at all. I think all he gained from his test cycle was just fat. He took gear didn’t train and just shoved kfc because of the hunger a test cycle gives you.

yes i did do that but i also did train 4 times a week

 

[RekTest]

thanks for the advice.
would you recommend starting another test cycle to build more muscle. during a cleaner bulk?

I would get your nutrition down to a T natty, once you have that then decide if you wanna start a TEST ONLY cycle. 500mg/wk 16wks minimum
Your gonna be fat af for a while, but when you cut next if you do it correctly and research, it will all be worth it.
I was 260, faaaaaaaaaat to becoming 90% shredded at 201 (todays weight) also 6ft. I have a thread around here if you wanna see my journey.

Before I ran cycles, I knew what food to eat etc……. i just dont always follow it lol

 

[mochul]

i was 71 kg lean. i gained 18kg half of that was muscle and the other half was fat

13% is not that lean in body building world and in your case no lean but skinny at your height and weight. when you started your cycle, most of the muscle you gained was newby gains or muscle memory if you took time off. You should have gained way more muscle and less fat if training and diet was on point.
Again, no gear for you until you learn the basics.
If you don’t like what we are telling you then fuck off and do what you want. Nobody should give you advice on gear, specifically with dnp.
If you want to loose weight faster, increase your deficit to 1000 calories. It shouldn’t matter much at your body fat level. When you are at 15%, then take it more slowly. Only safe thing you can add as is effective is semaglutide.

 

[TestyisBesty]

i was 71 kg lean. i gained 18kg half of that was muscle and the other half was fat

Asked for before and after pics earlier? I know you have some. Who cares, black out your face. We can assist you better seeing your base.

 

[jamie9]

I would get your nutrition down to a T natty, once you have that then decide if you wanna start a TEST ONLY cycle. 500mg/wk 16wks minimum
Your gonna be fat af for a while, but when you cut next if you do it correctly and research, it will all be worth it.
I was 260, faaaaaaaaaat to becoming 90% shredded at 201 (todays weight) also 6ft. I have a thread around here if you wanna see my journey.

Before I ran cycles, I knew what food to eat etc……. i just dont always follow it lol

would you recommend i use tirz to get down to 18% bodyfat and then maintain that to build muscle?

 

[mochul]

would you recommend i use tirz to get down to 18% bodyfat and then maintain that to build muscle?

Either glp1 is fine. Reta, tirz or sema. They do the same thing. But you have to learn to eat the proper food. You can easily get over your calorie limit by eating junk food. Glp1 is not a magic bullet that will set your diet straight. It just helps.
18% is still high body fat to gain muscle on. Try to get to your starting body fat level. It should be easy for you since you began at that body fat level

 

[jamie9]

13% is not that lean in body building world and in your case no lean but skinny at your height and weight. when you started your cycle, most of the muscle you gained was newby gains or muscle memory if you took time off. You should have gained way more muscle and less fat if training and diet was on point.
Again, no gear for you until you learn the basics.
If you don’t like what we are telling you then fuck off and do what you want. Nobody should give you advice on gear, specifically with dnp.
If you want to loose weight faster, increase your deficit to 1000 calories. It shouldn’t matter much at your body fat level. When you are at 15%, then take it more slowly. Only safe thing you can add as is effective is semaglutide.

what do you think of sibutramine.
clen and t3 are being sold near me but your guys advice is not to take it.

 

[RekTest]

would you recommend i use tirz to get down to 18% bodyfat and then maintain that to build muscle?

No, I would recommend you do what I said. Learn nutrition natty, bulking. I wouldnt cut if I were in your shoes.
Slow, clean bulk to like 220, then cut.

Clen and (if you dont have thyroid problems) t3 sre ancient times, its like comparing a Ferrari to a camry (clen and t3 to glps)

 

[mochul]

what do you think of sibutramine.
clen and t3 are being sold near me but your guys advice is not to take it.

Why do you want to take sibutramine? It was developed as a appetite suppressant. You have now glp1 which is way more effective.
Clen and t3? Absolutely no. With clen you burn an extra few hunderd calories with a lot of side effects. T3 is not necessary when you are not getting stage lean. Some guys wouldn’t even use it at that stage. Unless you are hypothyroid, just glp1.

 

[jamie9]

No, I would recommend you do what I said. Learn nutrition natty, bulking. I wouldnt cut if I were in your shoes.
Slow, clean bulk to like 220, then cut.

Clen and (if you dont have thyroid problems) t3 sre ancient times, its like comparing a Ferrari to a camry (clen and t3 to glps)

what other modern fatburners would you say are good.
glps and all the things you guys are reccommending are like a grand for 2 pens

 

[mochul]

I wouldnt cut if I were in your shoes.
Slow, clean bulk to like 220, then cut.

He is almost obese. He should at least cut to a healthy level like 15%

 

[RekTest]

what other modern fatburners would you say are good.
glps and all the things you guys are reccommending are like a grand for 2 pens

Dude, nothing. GLPs. Nothing else. You can find it UGL. Other guy in this thread even said so in your country.

Let me say this, nothing compares to glps.

 

[mochul]

what other modern fatburners would you say are good.
glps and all the things you guys are reccommending are like a grand for 2 pens

Boy you are on a gold mine forum. Take your head out of your butt and instead of asking nonsense, search around here to find cheap options.
You can literally buy sema tomorrow and have it delivered to you on Thursday for 50 eur and it will last you a good two month. Not mentioning chinese sources that are several times cheaper