IQ Test

dolfe1 said:
Even so that would not necessarily mean that I am smarter, just means that I have a higher IQ.

dolfe1 said:
................................waiting for Rod..............

Don't want to disappoint you Dolfe so I will post it again. With an IQ of 166 I would have thought you would have gotten it the first time; it's not that hard just read points 1 & 2 below ;) I too doubt that your IQ is 166 that would put you 4.4 standard deviations above the mean, highly unlikely to say the least.

"Mainstream Science on Intelligence


This public statement, signed by 52 internationally known scholars, was active on the information highway early in 1995 following several rather heated and negative responses to Herrnstein & Murray's The Bell Curve. It was first published in The Wall Street Journal, Tuesday, December 13, 1994. An alphabetical listing of the scholars and their home institutions are given at the end of the statement.



Prologue
Since the publication of "The BELL CURVE," many commentators have offered opinions about human intelligence that misstate current scientific evidence. Some conclusions dismissed in the media as discredited are actually firmly supported.

This statement outlines conclusions regarded as mainstream among researchers on intelligence, in particular, on the nature, origins, and practical consequences of individual and group differences in intelligence. Its aim is to promote more reasoned discussion of the vexing phenomenon that the research has revealed in recent decades. The following conclusions are fully described in the major textbooks, professional journals and encyclopedias in intelligence.



The Meaning and Measurement of Intelligence


1) Intelligence is a very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings -- "catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do.

2) Intelligence, so defined, can be measured, and intelligence tests measure it well. They are among the most accurate (in technical terms, reliable and valid) of all psychological tests and assessments. They do not measure creativity, character, personality, or other important differences among individuals, nor are they intended to."

http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/wsj_main.html
 
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WOW- and the general public perceives us as meat heads. We are among the smartest person ever to walk the face of the earth. The standard IQ test (WAIS-III) has a full scale IQ floor (lowest score) of 45 and a ceiling (highest score possible) of 155. The score distribution is based on the Bell curve so 100 is the average IQ score with a standard deviation of 15. 68% of the population will have an IQ between 85-115, 95% of the population will have an IQ between 70-130, and 99% of the population will have an IQ score between 55-145. How odd that the top .01% of intelligent people are posting on the same thread. Meat heads, I think not.
Intell. is realy ones ability to adapt in a specific culture. Gardner has has, I think 9 or 10 different types of intell. When you think about it being able to put a basketball though a hoop is one form and reading and math are others.
BTW, THL glad to hear you are going back to school. Dont be intimidated, you are older and wiser. What are you going back to study???
 
moralanimal said:
BTW, THL glad to hear you are going back to school. Dont be intimidated, you are older and wiser. What are you going back to study???

Computer science. There are several different ways I can go with this so I'm still not set on a specific area. Computer and network security seems interesting and there is a university near me that offers 2 and 4 year degrees in that field. I'm not sure how much demand there would be for that in my area though.
 
THL said:
Computer science. There are several different ways I can go with this so I'm still not on the specific area. Computer and network security seems interesting and there is a university near me that offers 2 and 4 year degrees in that field. I'm not sure how much demand there would be for that in my area though.


only 214??? to think i spent 10 minutes on that :mad: . lol JK i got a 143 :D .
 
crewboss said:
only 214??? to think i spent 10 minutes on that :mad: . lol JK i got a 143 :D .


Geez guys, I thought I did pretty good with a 127. I'm going to take it again later and see if I can do a little better. Hopefully I don't do worse!

Now could someone please post that got a lower score than me? :p

BTW, I'm 5'10", 225lbs, 8% bf, and posess a thick 10 inch cock. There, now
I feel a little better.
 
THL said:
Computer science. There are several different ways I can go with this so I'm still not set on a specific area. Computer and network security seems interesting and there is a university near me that offers 2 and 4 year degrees in that field. I'm not sure how much demand there would be for that in my area though.

good choice thl. whatever you do, don't get a microsoft certification. not worth it, imho. network design and internetworking (e.g. cisco internetworking) are a solid choice. you will work with the hardware/software that connects various lan's (local area networks) without having to deal with the specific operating systems like win98, nt, win2000, xp, etc. network security is always good as there will always a demand for this. another very good-paying job is market data systems. these are systems that banks and trading floors use to do trading. this is what i do these days. let me know if i can help in any way.

btw, are you the one that has a boy who plays guitar? can't remember.
 
Chip Bronson said:
good choice thl. whatever you do, don't get a microsoft certification. not worth it, imho. network design and internetworking (e.g. cisco internetworking) are a solid choice. you will work with the hardware/software that connects various lan's (local area networks) without having to deal with the specific operating systems like win98, nt, win2000, xp, etc. network security is always good as there will always a demand for this. another very good-paying job is market data systems. these are systems that banks and trading floors use to do trading. this is what i do these days. let me know if i can help in any way.

btw, are you the one that has a boy who plays guitar? can't remember.

Security is a good field. I specialize in PKI, but i also do other less sophisticated things such as firewalls and VPNs etc.

Chip, i disagree with you, it certainly adds credit to the IT pro to get the MS certification, and if he learns something such as messaging and directory services, and he learns it well (becomes a subject matter expert in the area), he could easily find a good job.

-OT
 
Chip and Oldtimer: Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. I'll probably go talk to a counseler in the next week or 2 so if I have some questions after that (and I know I will) it would be great to talk to you guys, since you already do it for a living.
 
135

" According to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.

so fuck all ya'll :)!!!!

have a nice day
 
85. but thats ok because me and jenny go together like peas and carrots. that's all I got to say bout that..........11
 
THL said:
Geez guys, I thought I did pretty good with a 127. I'm going to take it again later and see if I can do a little better. Hopefully I don't do worse!

Now could someone please post that got a lower score than me? :p

BTW, I'm 5'10", 225lbs, 8% bf, and posess a thick 10 inch cock. There, now
I feel a little better.
LOL
 
Rod said:
Don't want to disappoint you Dolfe so I will post it again. With an IQ of 166 I would have thought you would have gotten it the first time; it's not that hard just read points 1 & 2 below ;) I too doubt that your IQ is 166 that would put you 4.4 standard deviations above the mean, highly unlikely to say the least.

I am not disappointed, should I be? What did I not get, please specify.

p.s. Funny someone of a lower intelligence questioning someone of a higher intelligence due to improbability! BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :p
 
oldtimer said:
Security is a good field. I specialize in PKI, but i also do other less sophisticated things such as firewalls and VPNs etc.

Chip, i disagree with you, it certainly adds credit to the IT pro to get the MS certification, and if he learns something such as messaging and directory services, and he learns it well (becomes a subject matter expert in the area), he could easily find a good job.

-OT

not sure if it adds credit or not but i'll tell you this. i've seen more guys get great-paying jobs without one. and i've seen too many ms certified guys get really low-paying jobs. why is this? i'll tell you why. it's because the ms certs are a sham. they are a dime a dozen and the companies know this. that's why a ms certified will make 1/2 of what a unix certified guy will make, salary-wise. any half-wit can cram using the exam cram materials and pass the test. a lot of these half-wits have book knowledge with no corresponding real-world knowledge. that's the problem. obviously, having both would be good but many don't. companies will ultimately hire you based upon your resume, not whether or not you have an ms cert.

the other problem is that you get ms certified and the next year they come up with a new operating system and you have to get re-certified. this sucks. you don't have to re-certifiy with unix or cisco.

oh, btw, i happen to be ms certified. so what.
 
I think a comp sci degree would be wasted in security unless you worked for a security research firm. Configuring firewalls, VPN, and encryption gear with canned software or working with embedded devices along those same lines is not really what a computer scientist or computer engineer is trained to do. Sure, you can do it with a comp. sci. or comp. e. degree......but so can a guy who made it through an information technology degree...or a plain business degree for that matter. In these cases, your success is moreso dependent upon your follow on training with the manufacturer's product than your core education.

On the other hand, if you have aspirations of becoming a computational physicist or the like, I would strongly suggest comp sci or mathematics.
 
dolfe1 said:
I am not disappointed, should I be? What did I not get, please specify.

p.s. Funny someone of a lower intelligence questioning someone of a higher intelligence due to improbability! BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :p

You keep saying that an IQ test doesn't measure how smart someone is, that is wrong. To quote you: "Even so that would not necessarily mean that I am smarter, just means that I have a higher IQ."

Scores on IQ tests do tell us how smart someone is. The higher someone scores the smarter they are. The words "intelligence" and "smart" are synonymous. IQ tests measure intelligence (i.e. smarts) quite well (see #2 in my previous post).

An IQ score of 164 would put in you the 99.99945830469488 percentile. The rarity of that would be 1 out of every 184,606 people. That is why I said a standard deviation of 4.4 above the mean an unlikely event. I didn't say it isn't true, I said it was unlikely.

Hope I've been clear. :)
 
Rod said:
You keep saying that an IQ test doesn't measure how smart someone is, that is wrong. To quote you: "Even so that would not necessarily mean that I am smarter, just means that I have a higher IQ."

Scores on IQ tests do tell us how smart someone is. The higher someone scores the smarter they are. The words "intelligence" and "smart" are synonymous. IQ tests measure intelligence (i.e. smarts) quite well (see #2 in my previous post).

An IQ score of 164 would put in you the 99.99945830469488 percentile. The rarity of that would be 1 out of every 184,606 people. That is why I said a standard deviation of 4.4 above the mean an unlikely event. I didn't say it isn't true, I said it was unlikely.

Hope I've been clear. :)

Well, not really. IQ scores measure someones resources and intell. is the ability to adapt in a particular culture and enviornment. What you are taking about is fluid vs crystalized intell. The culture is the key factor- for example- take an African who lives on the plains and has great tracking ability and give him the WAIS he would have a very low verbal IQ and crystalized intell. In his enviornment we would not survive. With how we measure IQ we are "much smarter" but would not make a week in Africa. IQ measures resources. People can do all kinds of things with resources- good, bad, not use them, etc. The unibomber Ted Kazinski (sp?) has an IQ of 142, placing him in the 3rd standard deviation and with a standard error he is in the .01% of the population. He is not so smart b/c he choose to spend the rest of his life in jail.
 
I didn't take this internet one, but I've taken a real IQ test, and scored a 146 which puts me very high. Real IQ tests administered by professionals are different and much longer than the IQ tests on the net.
 

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