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moralanimal said:
Well, not really. IQ scores measure someones resources and intell. is the ability to adapt in a particular culture and enviornment. What you are taking about is fluid vs crystalized intell. The culture is the key factor- for example- take an African who lives on the plains and has great tracking ability and give him the WAIS he would have a very low verbal IQ and crystalized intell. In his enviornment we would not survive. With how we measure IQ we are "much smarter" but would not make a week in Africa. IQ measures resources. People can do all kinds of things with resources- good, bad, not use them, etc. The unibomber Ted Kazinski (sp?) has an IQ of 142, placing him in the 3rd standard deviation and with a standard error he is in the .01% of the population. He is not so smart b/c he choose to spend the rest of his life in jail.
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I view intelligence as mental ability. The ability can be used for good or evil. Have you ever heard the term "evil genius"? Moralanimal, it seems like you are confusing the concept of intelligence with wisdom. IQ tests measure if someone is smart not if they are wise.

"smart -adj. (7) having or showing quick intelligence or ready mental capabilities: ex. a smart student.
wise -adj. (1) having the power of discerning what and judging properly as to what is true or right." Webster's Dictionary

I would say that Ted Kazinski (sp?) was smart but not wise. How long did he evade the FBI? Weren't his bombs elaborately constructed? Didn't he attend and do well at an Ivy League school's graduate math degree program? Did he possess these characteristics: "mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. If he did he was intelligent (i.e. smart). I think he possesed those characteristics. Did he have the power of discerning what is true or right? I think not; he wasn't wise. Ted Kazinski (sp?) was intelligent but not wise.
 
You keep saying that an IQ test doesn't measure how smart someone is, that is wrong. To quote you: "Even so that would not necessarily mean that I am smarter, just means that I have a higher IQ."

Your obsession is overcoming the rational mind here Rod. Looks like another case of selective reading. Have you been hanging out with Neodavid? No I don't keep saying that IQ doesn't measure how smart someone is, IQ measure some kinds of intelligence, not all, therefore as I said before just because I have a higher IQ than someone does not necessarily mean I am smarter, just that I have a higher IQ. I would agree that having a higher IQ then the next person would most likely mean that the person with the higher IQ is smarter.

Scores on IQ tests do tell us how smart someone is. The higher someone scores the smarter they are. The words "intelligence" and "smart" are synonymous. IQ tests measure intelligence (i.e. smarts) quite well (see #2 in my previous post).

An IQ score of 164 would put in you the 99.99945830469488 percentile. The rarity of that would be 1 out of every 184,606 people. That is why I said a standard deviation of 4.4 above the mean an unlikely event. I didn't say it isn't true, I said it was unlikely.

Don't be jealous. :cool:

Hope I've been clear. :)

Hope I've been clear.
 
dolfe1 said:
................................waiting for Rod.............
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"Your obsession is overcoming the rational mind here Rod."

I took "waiting for Rod" as an indication that you wanted to debate the topic. Then I reply and you accuse me of having an obsession. LOL

Whatever Dolfe. :)
 
dolfe1 said:
"waiting for Rod"

I knew you would have an opinion for this thread and I like your posts, that's all.
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Oh I see how it is, I compliment you and no courtesy response from you, I know you read this post you scurvy bastard. And I thought we were brothers! :p
 
dolfe1 said:
Oh I see how it is, I compliment you and no courtesy response from you, I know you read this post you scurvy bastard. And I thought we were brothers! :p
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Sorry Dolfe, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I enjoy your posts as well. :)

Bro, I didn't reply because I didn't want to seem obsessed with the issue. :D
 
wtf is happening to meso? guys apologizing for being out of line, concern for others' feelings, retractions of disrespect and other such gay behavior. i don't know fellas... :rolleyes:

fuck you all in advance... bitches.... ;)
 
Chip Bronson said:
wtf is happening to meso? guys apologizing for being out of line, concern for others' feelings, retractions of disrespect and other such gay behavior. i don't know fellas... :rolleyes:

fuck you all in advance... bitches.... ;)
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Tell me about it Chip, the other day a good bro got all worked up about being called "a complete and utter asshole". Seems like a sissy thing to do to me. :D
 
"10% off on vaseline now get the FOCK back in the closet!"


OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

:D

Chip Bronson said:
wtf is happening to meso? guys apologizing for being out of line, concern for others' feelings, retractions of disrespect and other such gay behavior. i don't know fellas... :rolleyes:

fuck you all in advance... bitches.... ;)
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Rod said:
Tell me about it Chip, the other day a good bro got all worked up about being called "a complete and utter asshole". Seems like a sissy thing to do to me. :D
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what a total fucking wuss, eh rod?... :cool:
 
Chip Bronson said:
what a total fucking wuss, eh rod?... :cool:
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No! It turned out to be a misunderstanding caused by the guy who called the other guy a "complete and utter asshohe". He appoligized the other guy accepted. Now, they are the best of friends. :)

At least that was how I saw it.
 
Rod said:
No! It turned out to be a misunderstanding caused by the guy who called the other guy a "complete and utter asshohe". He appoligized the other guy accepted. Now, they are the best of friends. :)

At least that was how I saw it.
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ain't that precious.... :D what about that cocksucker bernie mack? :mad:
 
Chip Bronson said:
ain't that precious.... :D what about that cocksucker bernie mack? :mad:
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Hes probably hanging out with Cedric "I have to tell everyone Im an entertainer because otherwise no one would know!"

Yeah, this whole gay thing goin on on tv, radio, Meso...lets push that garbage right back in the closet!
 
Chip Bronson said:
wtf is happening to meso? guys apologizing for being out of line, concern for others' feelings, retractions of disrespect and other such gay behavior. i don't know fellas... :rolleyes:

fuck you all in advance... bitches.... ;)
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Yea Rod what the hell is wrong with you! :D
 
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