Is deca superior to eq for strength? Thoughts on my cycle plans...

[Harmswhey]

I'm 31 6foot 215lbs about 13%bf training about 7 years....this is going to be my third cycle... Most recent was 12 weeks test e at 500mg/ week with 6 week tbol kickstart 50mg/day.... I was debating between eq and deca for my second compound this time.... I hear so many mixed reviews on eq i figure to find out how well it works i should try it for myself...so this is my plan 16 weeks of test e a 600mg a week and 500mg eq 14 weeks with 50mg proviron ed all the way thru pct.... im not sensitive to gyno so im thinking i wont need an ai but will have arimidex on hand just in case pct will be 4 weeks clomid and nolva maybe 6 weeks if necessary.

 

[ebkallday]

I'm 31 6foot 215lbs about 13%bf training about 7 years....this is going to be my third cycle... Most recent was 12 weeks test e at 500mg/ week with 6 week tbol kickstart 50mg/day.... I was debating between eq and deca for my second compound this time.... I hear so many mixed reviews on eq i figure to find out how well it works i should try it for myself...so this is my plan 16 weeks of test e a 600mg a week and 500mg eq 14 weeks with 50mg proviron ed all the way thru pct.... im not sensitive to gyno so im thinking i wont need an ai but will have arimidex on hand just in case pct will be 4 weeks clomid and nolva maybe 6 weeks if necessary.

Needing an AI is not just because a person gets gyno. You would be dumb not to use one gyno or not.

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm 31 6foot 215lbs about 13%bf training about 7 years....this is going to be my third cycle... Most recent was 12 weeks test e at 500mg/ week with 6 week tbol kickstart 50mg/day.... I was debating between eq and deca for my second compound this time.... I hear so many mixed reviews on eq i figure to find out how well it works i should try it for myself...so this is my plan 16 weeks of test e a 600mg a week and 500mg eq 14 weeks with 50mg proviron ed all the way thru pct.... im not sensitive to gyno so im thinking i wont need an ai but will have arimidex on hand just in case pct will be 4 weeks clomid and nolva maybe 6 weeks if necessary.

EQ is worthless that low IMO. Also, 20 weeks for EQ is best. Proviron is a waste of your money.

 

[Harmswhey]

Needing an AI is not just because a person gets gyno. You would be dumb not to use one gyno or not.

So many tough guys on here ok buddy

 

[Wunderpus]

So many tough guys on here ok buddy

Well, he's right. Also, he's not being a tough guy.... Just giving you good advice.

You're probably "not gyno prone" because you most likely have been running underdosed test. Just sayin'.

 

[ebkallday]

So many tough guys on here ok buddy

Not being tough fella. You may want to do more research before starting your cycle. E2 control should have been first on your list before your first cycle.

 

[Harmswhey]

Well, he's right. Also, he's not being a tough guy.... Just giving you good advice.

You're probably "not gyno prone" because you most likely have been running underdosed test. Just sayin'.

Well i appreciate the input thats why I'm posting on here... I've ran 2 cycles of test both with great results... you are right i have no way to know if my test was under dosed because i did not get bloods...

 

[Harmswhey]

Not being tough fella. You may want to do more research before starting your cycle. E2 control should have been first on your list before your first cycle.

I understand and i appreciate your advice... the previous 2 cycles i have had great results so i have to think the test was legit but like i said i always have ai on hand before i take anything

 

[dajr225]

Just because you're not gyno sensitive on test cycles doesn't mean deca won't lump you up. Throwing in deca or tren can completely flop that theory. Keeping estrogen in control becomes very important, not just for that, you're dick could quit working too.

 

[Wunderpus]

Any idea what UGL you're planning on running? Some have better history than others.

 

[Harmswhey]

EQ is worthless that low IMO. Also, 20 weeks for EQ is best. Proviron is a waste of your money.

Why do u say proviron is worthless?

 

[Harmswhey]

Any idea what UGL you're planning on running? Some have better history than others.

I have used gp the last 2 times and is what i plan on using again

 

[Harmswhey]

Just because you're not gyno sensitive on test cycles doesn't mean deca won't lump you up. Throwing in deca or tren can completely flop that theory. Keeping estrogen in control becomes very important, not just for that, you're dick could quit working too.

Definitely man i was planning eq because it doesnt convert at the rate that test does but was debating deca as well because i want the strength... i def wouldnt think to run deca without an ai

 

[Wunderpus]

Why do u say proviron is worthless?

It is, it's effects wear off by week 2. It just doesn't do much for you. Not sure what you're expecting from it.

 

[Wunderpus]

Definitely man i was planning eq because it doesnt convert at the rate that test does but was debating deca as well because i want the strength... i def wouldnt think to run deca without an ai

Deca aromatizes at a very low rate, too.

Research time! Have fun!

 

[Harmswhey]

Deca aromatizes at a very low rate, too.

Research time! Have fun!

I know this too bubba they say half the rate of test right?

Deca aromatizes at a very low rate, too.

Research time! Have fun!

Half the rate of test they say right?

 

[Harmswhey]

I know this too bubba they say half the rate of test right?

Half the rate of test they say right?

I understand you are probably an experienced user and its annoying when rookies like myself ask dumb ass questions.. i get it... im simply trying to figure out the stuff im not 100% on which is apparently more stuff than i thought so all of the input is appreciated

 

[Wunderpus]

I know this too bubba they say half the rate of test right?

Half the rate of test they say right?

Your response implied you felt deca aromatized at a much greater rate than EQ. If anything, I think EQ is a bit more (based on personal experience).

 

[Wunderpus]

I would do 600 Test and 600 Deca for your cycle. Start with .5MG Adex EOD and work up as needed. Have you PCT on hand before you start (PHARMA only, no UGL stuff for your PCT or adex.)

 

[Harmswhey]

Your response implied you felt deca aromatized at a much greater rate than EQ. If anything, I think EQ is a bit more (based on personal experience).

Good to know man thanks