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Is deca superior to eq for strength? Thoughts on my cycle plans...
- Thread starter Harmswhey
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Tbol would be fine too, I just try and not recommend things I have no experience with. But, I have heard great stuff about Tbol, try it.
Harmswhey
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That makes sense brotha.... so i have been pinning mon Thursday in the past... i heard it better to pin every 3 days it keeps levels more stable? Whats your opinion on that i didnt think it made much diff?
For EQ/Deca and test, Monday and Thursday works just fine.
SJB78
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IMO I think deca will be better for strength and mass gains. I think when making this decision one must take into account side effect profiles and in this case equipoise will be the better choice. In both cases it comes down to estrogen control which is easier to manage with equipoise. Trying to get the right balance of estrogen/progesterone and prolactin can be difficult whilst using 19 nors like deca and tren however if successful these compounds will be more effective than equipoise.
Im wondering op if you could run them together in a stack which also includes testosterone. Adding eq to testosterone enables a higher androgen count without the harsh sides of testosterone. For example 200-400mg pw of test with 600-800mg pw of eq. You then add 200 to 400mg pw of deca for its therapeutic effects on joints and cartilage which can be compromised on aas and with heavy lifting, as well as its mass and strength building effects. You could also kick start with anadrol on 50mg daily for 3-4 weeks which will help with gains at the start of cycle instead of waiting for the long ester compounds to kick in. This cycle will also cover all aas types as it will consist of a testosterone, 19 nor and a DHT. Anyway food for thought. Actually I may even do this stack myself one day.
Im wondering op if you could run them together in a stack which also includes testosterone. Adding eq to testosterone enables a higher androgen count without the harsh sides of testosterone. For example 200-400mg pw of test with 600-800mg pw of eq. You then add 200 to 400mg pw of deca for its therapeutic effects on joints and cartilage which can be compromised on aas and with heavy lifting, as well as its mass and strength building effects. You could also kick start with anadrol on 50mg daily for 3-4 weeks which will help with gains at the start of cycle instead of waiting for the long ester compounds to kick in. This cycle will also cover all aas types as it will consist of a testosterone, 19 nor and a DHT. Anyway food for thought. Actually I may even do this stack myself one day.
Proviron would be a fine add to your cycle for increasing your free T levels(in humans) and in turn increase protein synthesis(in rats) I believe.
You won't get any muscle building benefits from it. I can use Proviron without using an AI during blasts and it helps tremendously with the E2 related sides.
mands
You won't get any muscle building benefits from it. I can use Proviron without using an AI during blasts and it helps tremendously with the E2 related sides.
mands
I here it helps with tren sides as well. I haven't ran it yet but was thinking about it for this reason.
It does for me ebkallday.
I just noticed OP wanted to run Proviron during PCT. I would strongly disagree with doing so.
mands
Also to answer the OP original question which is better for Strength? Deca or EQ? Hands down DECA or EQ!!!
mands
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Harmswhey
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Thanks for the input brotha.... i just ordered my gear today... the plan is 16 weeks 600mg test e 600mg eq divided into 2 doses mon and thurs... tbol kickstart 50mg ed split am pm doses for 5 weeks... i have clomid nolva and hcg as well as arimidex on hand... never used hcg but since im doing 16 weeks thought it was a good idea... im not very knowledgeable in hcg so i will have to do some research on dosing and when to take it
SJB78
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With the arimidex you could start off on 0.25 eod to be safe as test and eq will aromatize. Even though its at a lower rate the eq will convert. Better to be safe than get gyno or high blood pressure. If you have it use it (the arimidex).
This is looking like its going to be my next cycle
It's a classic mass oriented cycle. You can strategically reduce the bloat that can come with these steroids by managing your E2 and eating a clean diet. I ran the stack as a 2 or so week blast and liked it. Good luck brother, you'll enjoy it.
SJB78
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@mands i noticed your statement about proviron. I would like to add it to my test deca dbol cycle as i got given some and thought why not use it. I want to use it specifically for its shbg effects and freeing up test during cycle. My question is will i have to lower my arimidex dosage if i do add it. My adex dose was going to be 0.5mg eod. Will adding proviron make my estrogen level too low? Im planning on doing this cycle in a month. Sorry to hijack but i asked this a few days ago but got very little response to this question. Dosages are test e 800, deca 500 and dbol 40mg ed and proviron 25mg ed.
Harmswhey
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Sounds good bubba...
Harmswhey
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How about the 600mg of both should i run more eq than test?
SJB78
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Test 400 eq 600 to 800
Harmswhey
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Right on fellas
No you will
Not need. The reduction if there is one it's minimal at best
It's def. preference.. But I was just as strong from eq as I was on deca, it just took longer. My best cycle I used both, 900 mg eq and 500mg deca..
So OP just take the best of both worlds lol
Just a big eq fan because primo is way to often bunk
