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Is deca superior to eq for strength? Thoughts on my cycle plans...

Wunderpus said:
I would do 600 Test and 600 Deca for your cycle. Start with .5MG Adex EOD and work up as needed. Have you PCT on hand before you start (PHARMA only, no UGL stuff for your PCT or adex.)
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This is prob a dumb question but how do i know what stuff is pharma?
 
For what reason are you running proviron? Im asking as i got given some pharma proviron and am running it in my next cycle for a specific reason which is not related to estrogen control. Some people will say its useless. If you are using it for the control of estrogen then it will not be efficient for this purpose. My interest in it is its shbg binding ability which enables testosterone to be less bound more available. Ive never ran eq. Funnily enough Dan Duchaine wrote in the underground steroid handbook that he thought deca and eq were similar compounds which we now know is not true as deca is a 19 nor testosterone and eq is not. The reason he thought this was because they act very much the same in terms of results. That being said though you must think about the differences. Deca can raise prolactin which can cause deca dick and can cause gyno through a different mechanism of action compared to the testosterones. Deca can be quiet beneficial to tendons which can be damaged due to steroid use. Eq is a relatively safe alternative to testosterone due to its lower conversion rate so the gains on eq can have a much harder and vascular appearance. I think in terms of strength and gains they will be similar so one must make a decision based both compounds' side effect profile. Have fun....
 
SJB78 said:
For what reason are you running proviron? Im asking as i got given some pharma proviron and am running it in my next cycle for a specific reason which is not related to estrogen control. Some people will say its useless. If you are using it for the control of estrogen then it will not be efficient for this purpose. My interest in it is its shbg binding ability which enables testosterone to be less bound more available. Ive never ran eq. Funnily enough Dan Duchaine wrote in the underground steroid handbook that he thought deca and eq were similar compounds which we now know is not true as deca is a 19 nor testosterone and eq is not. The reason he thought this was because they act very much the same in terms of results. That being said though you must think about the differences. Deca can raise prolactin which can cause deca dick and can cause gyno through a different mechanism of action compared to the testosterones. Deca can be quiet beneficial to tendons which can be damaged due to steroid use. Eq is a relatively safe alternative to testosterone due to its lower conversion rate so the gains on eq can have a much harder and vascular appearance. I think in terms of strength and gains they will be similar so one must make a decision based both compounds' side effect profile. Have fun....
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Thanks SJB that was a very beneficial comment.... The reason i want to take proviron was the reason u stated as well as keeping high libido... also i feel like my muscles had a hard dense look while taking 50mg ed with 500mg/ test e... maybe it was just me but i felt like i looked dry
 
How about this....nothing is superior to EQ or primo for quality muscle that you keep...

Want to look bloated and massive for a few weeks use dnol deca test and all that other bullshit

There are no short cuts, hard work equals great gains, if you want to keep them..well, as stated above
 
tubesox said:
Wunderpus i love you bro, but I respectfully disagree
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Disagree on the cycle or the pharmacy grade ancillaries?

I'll assume cycle, which is understandable. It's personal preference, I think EQ shines more on a cut, and deca on a bulk. That's my experience, though. H
 
Harmswhey said:
I'm thinking 600/test 600/eq 16 weeks?
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This is a fine option.

If you have no issue with front loading an oral, I would. That long half life is gonna take a while for EQ to get going. When it does, you will know. The vascularity and hunger cannot be matched. Frankly I miss EQ, I had to take a break from it, we were developing too strong of feelings.

Start with some anadrol 50mg's/ day, pre workout (hour or so) for 3 or so weeks.


By the way, I've never had the moon face or water gain from deca. Could be from proper e2 control, diet, luck, who knows? It makes me BIG though, seriously big.
 
Wunderpus said:
This is a fine option.

If you have no issue with front loading an oral, I would. That long half life is gonna take a while for EQ to get going. When it does, you will know. The vascularity and hunger cannot be matched. Frankly I miss EQ, I had to take a break from it, we were developing too strong of feelings.

Start with some anadrol 50mg's/ day, pre workout (hour or so) for 3 or so weeks.


By the way, I've never had the moon face or water gain from deca. Could be from proper e2 control, diet, luck, who knows? It makes me BIG though, seriously big.
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I actually have some tbol on hand was gonna do 50mg ed for 5 weeks to kickstart... anadrol is way stronger correct? I dont know much about it
 
Tbol would be a good kicker if it's legit tbol. No bloat, good pumps and aggression. I have problems with deca and tren. The sweating is ridiculous, bad sleep, horrible acne, and unexpected erectile dysfunction, as well as bad mood swings, and gyno flare ups. It just seems hard for me to keep estrogen in the right spot on 19 nors. I'm running test and eq right now and love it. Gonna throw in some dbol this week. With these compounds I rarely need an ai.
 
dajr225 said:
Tbol would be a good kicker if it's legit tbol. No bloat, good pumps and aggression. I have problems with deca and tren. The sweating is ridiculous, bad sleep, horrible acne, and unexpected erectile dysfunction, as well as bad mood swings, and gyno flare ups. It just seems hard for me to keep estrogen in the right spot on 19 nors. I'm running test and eq right now and love it. Gonna throw in some dbol this week. With these compounds I rarely need an ai.
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Thanks for the info brotha
 
do it just as you planned,500eq is not a low dose.....dont use deca any more,i like eq better..
 
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