Is it worth it to use QSC oils?

[readalot]

Not good for someone. I love small ones. I wish I could help them all.

heal their wounds and take away the pressure and pain.

 

[biggerben69]

Does Stan only sell on Meso?
He cannot post on the thread because look at his messages.
As he emailed him?

Let's do this...I know he's busy as all get out but if he's see's I tagged him he'll be to curious NOT to have a looksee.

I'll lay it out the sordid relationship that @Stanfordpharma1 and I have had over the years here at meso. Firstly, though... @MackDaddy, at least pretend to have some starch in that noodle you call a spine. You trash something that the man takes great pride in at least have the decency to tag him. I did it for you.

Stan has been the #1 source at meso for what....7 or more years running now? He's paid for more testing than any other ugl on the planet. Raws and finished product. I had a couple of vials of some Stanford Tren Hex a few months back. It was part of a bunch of ugl gear that I bought on some boards classified section. Before that, I last used Stanford back in 2019. A member picked up a cycle for me as a welcome home gift after being tucked away for 10 short months. The nerve of my sentencing judge. We first met in 2008 and I could tell it was going to be a rocky relationship after he hit me over the head with a 60 month sentence. Some folks just lack a sense of humor.

Anyway, Stan heard the order was for me and he gave the young man a healthy discount. I thought that was quite nice of him? Relative to that judge anyhow.

About 6 months after I got home back then, Stan, @Millard, and myself were accused of conspiring to run off a popular source at the time because that source was getting into our wallets with all the biz he was taking. What's more is that we were also accused by that source of selling rec drugs to meso members. That lowlife drug dealer had the nerve to lump Millard in with a couple of other low life drug dealers(one reformed, obviously).

Another source got into the private emails of a member who had ripped him off so he passed around the guys private emails and Stan and I happened to be mentioned in some of those emails.

Karma has a way of leveling the playing field(and then some!). The source was TGI who while out on bail for, among other things, operating UGL and possession of 20 plus kilos of raw steroid powder, got drunk and crashed his motorcycle killing his partner in life and crime(wife). I don't wish that kind of thing on anyone...well, maybe just a few people..but they are special cases.

Mackdaddy, I've had few of my posts deleted in the QSC thread. It was that or some kind of ban. I don't dislike all trannies. Just the ones that talk the way this pos talks to meso members.

I was going to go into some other things but just remembered something you said. It was something to the effect of you were considering putting down the needle as things weren't working out the way you had hoped they would.

I can't understand, but more importantly, I can't trust a guy who would hang up his spurs just like that? Its a lifestyle. Its not whatever it is to you. I could never just walk away from what we do.

They've locked me away for 5 years. We found a way to get our shit in the institution and buried that shit in Horticulture. I've got a pic on my furlough from Oregon to a federal halfway house in CA with a syringe in my shoulder and one high and to the side booty shot. Pic was taken by crazy Desiree who flew from Ct cuz I had a layover. She got us a room for an hour and brought me gear(this was 2012) to pin even BEFORE I pinned her!

Poor Desiree. Her body was found in a part of Ct she never would've gone to on her own. That's a story for another time.

 

[readalot]

I'm subscribed. This will be enlightening.

 

[ebkallday]

Let's do this...I know he's busy as all get out but if he's see's I tagged him he'll be to curious NOT to have a looksee.

I'll lay it out the sordid relationship that @Stanfordpharma1 and I have had over the years here at meso. Firstly, though... @MackDaddy, at least pretend to have some starch in that noodle you call a spine. You trash something that the man takes great pride in at least have the decency to tag him. I did it for you.

Stan has been the #1 source at meso for what....7 or more years running now? He's paid for more testing than any other ugl on the planet. Raws and finished product. I had a couple of vials of some Stanford Tren Hex a few months back. It was part of a bunch of ugl gear that I bought on some boards classified section. Before that, I last used Stanford back in 2019. A member picked up a cycle for me as a welcome home gift after being tucked away for 10 short months. The nerve of my sentencing judge. We first met in 2008 and I could tell it was going to be a rocky relationship after he hit me over the head with a 60 month sentence. Some folks just lack a sense of humor.

Anyway, Stan heard the order was for me and he gave the young man a healthy discount. I thought that was quite nice of him? Relative to that judge anyhow.

About 6 months after I got home back then, Stan, @Millard, and myself were accused of conspiring to run off a popular source at the time because that source was getting into our wallets with all the biz he was taking. What's more is that we were also accused by that source of selling rec drugs to meso members. That lowlife drug dealer had the nerve to lump Millard in with a couple of other low life drug dealers(one reformed, obviously).

Another source got into the private emails of a member who had ripped him off so he passed around the guys private emails and Stan and I happened to be mentioned in some of those emails.

Karma has a way of leveling the playing field(and then some!). The source was TGI who while out on bail for, among other things, operating UGL and possession of 20 plus kilos of raw steroid powder, got drunk and crashed his motorcycle killing his partner in life and crime(wife). I don't wish that kind of thing on anyone...well, maybe just a few people..but they are special cases.

Mackdaddy, I've had few of my posts deleted in the QSC thread. It was that or some kind of ban. I don't dislike all trannies. Just the ones that talk the way this pos talks to meso members.

I was going to go into some other things but just remembered something you said. It was something to the effect of you were considering putting down the needle as things weren't working out the way you had hoped they would.

I can't understand, but more importantly, I can't trust a guy who would hang up his spurs just like that? Its a lifestyle. Its not whatever it is to you. I could never just walk away from what we do.

They've locked me away for 5 years. We found a way to get our shit in the institution and buried that shit in Horticulture. I've got a pic on my furlough from Oregon to a federal halfway house in CA with a syringe in my shoulder and one high and to the side booty shot. Pic was taken by crazy Desiree who flew from Ct cuz I had a layover. She got us a room for an hour and brought me gear(this was 2012) to pin even BEFORE I pinned her!

Poor Desiree. Her body was found in a part of Ct she never would've gone to on her own. That's a story for another time.

Well said! Good to see you again Ben!

-EBK

 

[MackDaddy]

Let's do this...I know he's busy as all get out but if he's see's I tagged him he'll be to curious NOT to have a looksee.

I'll lay it out the sordid relationship that @Stanfordpharma1 and I have had over the years here at meso. Firstly, though... @MackDaddy, at least pretend to have some starch in that noodle you call a spine. You trash something that the man takes great pride in at least have the decency to tag him. I did it for you.

Stan has been the #1 source at meso for what....7 or more years running now? He's paid for more testing than any other ugl on the planet. Raws and finished product. I had a couple of vials of some Stanford Tren Hex a few months back. It was part of a bunch of ugl gear that I bought on some boards classified section. Before that, I last used Stanford back in 2019. A member picked up a cycle for me as a welcome home gift after being tucked away for 10 short months. The nerve of my sentencing judge. We first met in 2008 and I could tell it was going to be a rocky relationship after he hit me over the head with a 60 month sentence. Some folks just lack a sense of humor.

Anyway, Stan heard the order was for me and he gave the young man a healthy discount. I thought that was quite nice of him? Relative to that judge anyhow.

About 6 months after I got home back then, Stan, @Millard, and myself were accused of conspiring to run off a popular source at the time because that source was getting into our wallets with all the biz he was taking. What's more is that we were also accused by that source of selling rec drugs to meso members. That lowlife drug dealer had the nerve to lump Millard in with a couple of other low life drug dealers(one reformed, obviously).

Another source got into the private emails of a member who had ripped him off so he passed around the guys private emails and Stan and I happened to be mentioned in some of those emails.

Karma has a way of leveling the playing field(and then some!). The source was TGI who while out on bail for, among other things, operating UGL and possession of 20 plus kilos of raw steroid powder, got drunk and crashed his motorcycle killing his partner in life and crime(wife). I don't wish that kind of thing on anyone...well, maybe just a few people..but they are special cases.

Mackdaddy, I've had few of my posts deleted in the QSC thread. It was that or some kind of ban. I don't dislike all trannies. Just the ones that talk the way this pos talks to meso members.

I was going to go into some other things but just remembered something you said. It was something to the effect of you were considering putting down the needle as things weren't working out the way you had hoped they would.

I can't understand, but more importantly, I can't trust a guy who would hang up his spurs just like that? Its a lifestyle. Its not whatever it is to you. I could never just walk away from what we do.

They've locked me away for 5 years. We found a way to get our shit in the institution and buried that shit in Horticulture. I've got a pic on my furlough from Oregon to a federal halfway house in CA with a syringe in my shoulder and one high and to the side booty shot. Pic was taken by crazy Desiree who flew from Ct cuz I had a layover. She got us a room for an hour and brought me gear(this was 2012) to pin even BEFORE I pinned her!

Poor Desiree. Her body was found in a part of Ct she never would've gone to on her own. That's a story for another time.

Well the reason I am considering hopping off for good is, I am tired of wasting money. I have probably spent 2k by now on these different sources just to get bunk gear. I would absolutely love to use gear and experiment. But If everytime now Im just getting scammed Im done. My plan is mabye to now try to get a hefty TRT script from a real doctor like 350mg a week and have heard of clinics prescibing like anavar or deca. Thats the plan now because as cool as it would be to pursue bodybuilding it isnt going my way.

 

[iris]

Let's do this...I know he's busy as all get out but if he's see's I tagged him he'll be to curious NOT to have a looksee.

I'll lay it out the sordid relationship that @Stanfordpharma1 and I have had over the years here at meso. Firstly, though... @MackDaddy, at least pretend to have some starch in that noodle you call a spine. You trash something that the man takes great pride in at least have the decency to tag him. I did it for you.

Stan has been the #1 source at meso for what....7 or more years running now? He's paid for more testing than any other ugl on the planet. Raws and finished product. I had a couple of vials of some Stanford Tren Hex a few months back. It was part of a bunch of ugl gear that I bought on some boards classified section. Before that, I last used Stanford back in 2019. A member picked up a cycle for me as a welcome home gift after being tucked away for 10 short months. The nerve of my sentencing judge. We first met in 2008 and I could tell it was going to be a rocky relationship after he hit me over the head with a 60 month sentence. Some folks just lack a sense of humor.

Anyway, Stan heard the order was for me and he gave the young man a healthy discount. I thought that was quite nice of him? Relative to that judge anyhow.

About 6 months after I got home back then, Stan, @Millard, and myself were accused of conspiring to run off a popular source at the time because that source was getting into our wallets with all the biz he was taking. What's more is that we were also accused by that source of selling rec drugs to meso members. That lowlife drug dealer had the nerve to lump Millard in with a couple of other low life drug dealers(one reformed, obviously).

Another source got into the private emails of a member who had ripped him off so he passed around the guys private emails and Stan and I happened to be mentioned in some of those emails.

Karma has a way of leveling the playing field(and then some!). The source was TGI who while out on bail for, among other things, operating UGL and possession of 20 plus kilos of raw steroid powder, got drunk and crashed his motorcycle killing his partner in life and crime(wife). I don't wish that kind of thing on anyone...well, maybe just a few people..but they are special cases.

Mackdaddy, I've had few of my posts deleted in the QSC thread. It was that or some kind of ban. I don't dislike all trannies. Just the ones that talk the way this pos talks to meso members.

I was going to go into some other things but just remembered something you said. It was something to the effect of you were considering putting down the needle as things weren't working out the way you had hoped they would.

I can't understand, but more importantly, I can't trust a guy who would hang up his spurs just like that? Its a lifestyle. Its not whatever it is to you. I could never just walk away from what we do.

They've locked me away for 5 years. We found a way to get our shit in the institution and buried that shit in Horticulture. I've got a pic on my furlough from Oregon to a federal halfway house in CA with a syringe in my shoulder and one high and to the side booty shot. Pic was taken by crazy Desiree who flew from Ct cuz I had a layover. She got us a room for an hour and brought me gear(this was 2012) to pin even BEFORE I pinned her!

Poor Desiree. Her body was found in a part of Ct she never would've gone to on her own. That's a story for another time.

Thank you

 

[iris]

And now that we are at it, might as well ask:

What does everyone think about the QSC "leaky vials" situation, from earlier?

Various people there have dismissed it.
I cannot personally judge, because idk.

Anyone has any thought about this, that may align with /differ from what was said there, by others?

 

[bigboy420]

if ur concerned about a litle bit of rubber in your muscle take a look at these modern women. Got to have the equivalent of at least 200 rubber stoppers in their tits alone.

And to think some guys are afraid to inject a piece of something you could only see if ur eyes were so good you could see colours.

Crazy bro crazy

Well the reason I am considering hopping off for good is, I am tired of wasting money. I have probably spent 2k by now on these different sources just to get bunk gear. I would absolutely love to use gear and experiment. But If everytime now Im just getting scammed Im done. My plan is mabye to now try to get a hefty TRT script from a real doctor like 350mg a week and have heard of clinics prescibing like anavar or deca. Thats the plan now because as cool as it would be to pursue bodybuilding it isnt going my way.

What bro xD

 

[TA13579]

And now that we are at it, might as well ask:

What does everyone think about the QSC "leaky vials" situation, from earlier?

Various people there have dismissed it.
I cannot personally judge, because idk.

Anyone has any thought about this, that may align with /differ from what was said there, by others?

I have to say the leaking vials has made me take a step back and do more research on various vendors. I'm now thinking I will just spend the money on pharma 1ml ampules as completely reduces any sterility/quality concerns.

I am also concerned about oil leaks when in transit. The last thing I need is to get caught up in some LE bullshit because oil is leaking from a package.

 

[iris]

I have to say the leaking vials has made me take a step back and do more research on various vendors. I'm now thinking I will just spend the money on pharma 1ml ampules as completely reduces any sterility/quality concerns.

I am also concerned about oil leaks when in transit. The last thing I need is to get caught up in some LE bullshit because oil is leaking from a package.

Thank you for your reply.

I only asked this here, because I saw those pictures and, given the topic, it seems appropriate.
They did not get too much of a reaction.
One person responded downplaying it and that was the end of it.

I was just curious whether anyone else had something to say but refrained from doing so, there.
That is something that can happen, sometimes.

BTW, I am not saying that the replies that guy got were wrong.
Even if they were, I wouldn't know.
Just trying to see if there is any further discussion to be had, about the condition he received the vials in.
That's all.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Ghoul gave thumbs up to the replies, on the main thread.
Maybe he can chime in here, too.

 

[iris]

Reposting here.
The source has replied.
If anyone, like me, suspected a bit of BS from op.....:

@MackDaddy , I vaguely remember our conversation. In all fairness, I get so many emails and pm's, etc a day it's not easy to remember everything. I wasn't dismissive like you made me seem in your thread. I offered to pay for testing. I have a policy of paying for it. What would you expect me to do? Paying for all testing and going from there is everything. I've had people do blood work and come back low, test the product and or complain using the feels system and every single time they're wrong. In your case, every source you've ever used is bunk. I've had other sources get in contact with me saying not to deal with you. You're a scammer. If I test a batch and it comes back good, you order that product that is tested and say it's not, then all I can say is send it to jano. There's no way I'm gonna ruin my reputation so I can underdose your two hundred dollar order (don't actually remember what your order cost, but I know it was small). Anyways, I don't mean any disrespect and I'm not calling you a scammer, but take it from my point of view. I get many scam attempts a day. I can't, and won't, just take someone's good word for something. I work hard at proving my product is quality. You need to prove otherwise. And... I'll even pay for it.

 

[readalot]

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I didnt mean it like that solved my issue. Im saying Testing wont do anything. Their is no way to fix my problem other than trying more and more sources. I mean I am done with this thread as in im tired of this leading no where.

Dude. The vendor offered to pay for HPLC testing of his product? Thanks for wasting those minutes I'm not getting back.

 

[Ghoul]

Thank you for your reply.

I only asked this here, because I saw those pictures and, given the topic, it seems appropriate.
They did not get too much of a reaction.
One person responded downplaying it and that was the end of it.

I was just curious whether anyone else had something to say but refrained from doing so, there.
That is something that can happen, sometimes.

BTW, I am not saying that the replies that guy got were wrong.
Even if they were, I wouldn't know.
Just trying to see if there is any further discussion to be had, about the condition he received the vials in.
That's all.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Ghoul gave thumbs up to the replies, on the main thread.
Maybe he can chime in here, too.

It was surreal to watch the recipient of those vials, Syntax, kind of register a complaint about the shitty crimps and (possible) leaks, but redirect his fury in a "safe" direction at the people who asked for higher quality stoppers because of previous leaking incidents, along with the poor healing quality of the rubber used.

It was a combination of anger, wanting QSC to fix this, but being so utterly terrified of being cut off by QSC for complaining, he resorted to the insanity of attacking the folks who were addressing the clearly poor quality previous stoppers.

To top it off, instead of calling him out on the bizarre bullshit of "YOUR complaints about the stoppers didn't matter but MINE do, and this poor crimping is all YOUR fault. It's definitely not QSC's fault, I love them very much but hate those reddit guys." Then an army of morons cheered him on because he said "new users" and "reddit".

As if poor QSC was bullied into changing stoppers and in the rush couldn't crimp properly. What?? Give me a fucking break.

 

[iris]

It was surreal to watch the recipient of those vials, Syntax, kind of register a complaint about the shitty crimps and (possible) leaks, but redirect his fury in a "safe" direction at the people who asked for higher quality stoppers because of previous leaking incidents, along with the poor healing quality of the rubber used.

It was a combination of anger, wanting QSC to fix this, but being so utterly terrified of being cut off by QSC for complaining, he resorted to the insanity of attacking the folks who were addressing the clearly poor quality previous stoppers.

To top it off, instead of calling him out on the bizarre bullshit of "YOUR complaints about the stoppers didn't matter but MINE do, and this poor crimping is all YOUR fault. It's definitely not QSC's fault, I love them very much but hate those reddit guys." Then an army of morons cheered him on because he said "new users" and "reddit".

As if poor QSC was bullied into changing stoppers and in the rush couldn't crimp properly. What?? Give me a fucking break.

Right.
Nevermind f*****g Reddit.
My question would be why were those vials closed like that?
For anyone else seeing them, they would read that it is not a problem, whatsoever.
So you know for a fact that is the case.
The kind of replies he got were, for you, appropriate.

Edit: well, yes they were on point, because you did not object to them and maybe gave thumbs up. So that answers it.
However, had YOU been the recipient of those vials, would you have been cool with it?
Obviously, you know how to deal with them, so you would never have brought that up on the QSC thread.
Correct?

 

[Tbaz192]

oh meso. Full of interesting things.

SST sources I can’t speak for.

But Stan. Having used his gear. Never had an issue. Honestly the only source I’ve had a pleasant experience with throughout. 100mg of his Tren a week has me worked up like no other. I’ve also posted labs on his stuff and other sources.

As far as OP. Looking like a Korean guy situation. pulls labs and they come back being off.
But won’t send for testing which will prove everything. And if it’s underdosed. You’ll get taken care of by the source. Simple as that. 3 days post labs if I’m not mistaken definitely isn’t peak concentration so they’ll come back lower.
Shit sucks. Youre buying from sources you don’t know or have any sort of personal relationship with. It’s the name of the game, there’s plenty of sources on here who are quite legit lol.
And then some that have major issues. I’m not naming names. Read up and listen to others.

There’s some solid people responding.

 

[bubba618]

And now that we are at it, might as well ask:

What does everyone think about the QSC "leaky vials" situation, from earlier?

Various people there have dismissed it.
I cannot personally judge, because idk.

Anyone has any thought about this, that may align with /differ from what was said there, by others?

I had a couple of Text C vials from last New Year's special (4 kits for $160) with that crimp error, but I examined them and there was no evidence of leaks. Pinned 'em more than 6 months ago and zero problems. If there were a problem, I probably would have just pitched the couple of vials affected.

For that matter I've seen it suggested by a number of members that buyers filter all QSC oils into higher quality containers with much better stoppers as a matter of practice. Of course, that always leads into the "you might as well homebrew" discussion which I plan on digging into soon, but that's off-topic.

 

[Dirthand]

Try Creatine

SHBG- 13 nmol/L, believe me man I did everything right, researched everything you can think of. I think steroids just arent for me.

 

[iris]

I had a couple of Text C vials from last New Year's special (4 kits for $160) with that crimp error, but I examined them and there was no evidence of leaks. Pinned 'em more than 6 months ago and zero problems. If there were a problem, I probably would have just pitched the couple of vials affected.

For that matter I've seen it suggested by a number of members that buyers filter all QSC oils into higher quality containers with much better stoppers as a matter of practice. Of course, that always leads into the "you might as well homebrew" discussion which I plan on digging into soon, but that's off-topic.

Thank you Bubba, for you kind and considerate response.
And yes, I have also seen that everyone filters it all again.
Wise thing to do, imo.
Glad to know it was all OK, for you.

 

[Ghoul]

I had a couple of Text C vials from last New Year's special (4 kits for $160) with that crimp error, but I examined them and there was no evidence of leaks. Pinned 'em more than 6 months ago and zero problems. If there were a problem, I probably would have just pitched the couple of vials affected.

For that matter I've seen it suggested by a number of members that buyers filter all QSC oils into higher quality containers with much better stoppers as a matter of practice. Of course, that always leads into the "you might as well homebrew" discussion which I plan on digging into soon, but that's off-topic.

A couple of points.

If you can't crimp a vial properly, or use a decent stopper, or prevent vials with visible floaters from reaching customers, what's going on with all the things you can't see? No shortcuts there I'm sure right? You're injecting this shit into your body. I could brew a vial with cooking oil, not sterilize shit, and dribble a little piss into the pot and you're not likely to feel anything.

Hardcore IV drug users are brewing their shit in a dirty spoon and mainlining it, bypassing the immune system, and 99.9% nothing happens from the injection, but cumulative damage, not just from the drug, almost certainly is.

It's a big leap for most to go from drug possessor to drug manufacturer. So filtering is reasonable insurance without going from pathetic (in the eyes of the law) user in need of help to unindited felon. "Brew" may sound like you're making beer, but you're one argument with your partner, or friend, away from drinking prison made Pruno.

They say you can get any level of quality from China you want, as long as you're willing to pay for it. In my mind. another 50¢ a vial would put an end to all this drama. It's absurd when QSC is so good with far more complex products like peptides and now orals.

 

[TA13579]

I had a couple of Text C vials from last New Year's special (4 kits for $160) with that crimp error, but I examined them and there was no evidence of leaks. Pinned 'em more than 6 months ago and zero problems. If there were a problem, I probably would have just pitched the couple of vials affected.

For that matter I've seen it suggested by a number of members that buyers filter all QSC oils into higher quality containers with much better stoppers as a matter of practice. Of course, that always leads into the "you might as well homebrew" discussion which I plan on digging into soon, but that's off-topic.

Were the vials wrapped in plastic in such a way to prevent a leak even if one would get crushed or break? Is the stealth good? I'm terrified of having a package leak in transit, because I live in a rural community where the cops are bored with nothing to do. They'd probably send a swat team and bust my door down over some vials.

I still might order some Tirzepatide GLP1 from QSC. For oils, I still don't know what vendor to choose yet as I haven't ordered anything for years. There is one vendor here that sells 1ml glass pharma ampules from India, but not sure how easy that would get through customs.