is my doctor a dumb cunt or is she right???

[hazel99]

I have aching nips. am not on any AAS. but will be soon. started taking 1mg every day finasteride in september. noticed slight aching nips for one or two days about three months in and lesser quality boners as well. i wouldnt go off fin because im going to start Test cycle very soon and i also quit taking diamorphine on a very regular basis so i figured coming off the opiates would probably help a little with the nips. i didnt see a point in going on and off finasteride when im planning to start my Test cycle soon.

In January started taking 500mcg GHRP and 500mcg mod grf 1-29 per day. I realize this raises prolactin. 1 week in my nips have been puffy and really aching for 2 days now. no lactation. i went to doc and lied and told her that i did a test cycle from sep - dec and that i needed AI or SERM. she orders me a testosterone test and when i tell her i think my estrogen should be checked she has a little flipout on me for thinking i know anything about my health and tells me that theres no reference range or test (???) for estrogen in men. she goes on to say that there can be test for estradiol and prolactin among other things and im like, ok, so youre getting hung up on terminology (saying estrogen vs estradiol in my case) and she only gives me the lab requisition for testosterone blood test. no prolactin or E2 or anything else, for whatever reason (probably cuz shes a cunt). but anyways, she says if my Test levels are high it could be making my nipples hurt and she really emphasizes theres no way for her to interpret estrogen results in men. i play along and ask her if my Test levels are high, will I get prescribed medication (like nolvadex or an ant-AI), and she says nope, and that i'll have to get a reference to an endo. so basically shes not gonna help me out at all.

so basically i just wanted to confirm that this chick doesnt know what the fuck shes talking about??? right?? im thinkin of just going back to see the testosterone results for the fuck of it, and just paying for bloodwork from a private lab in USA (im in Canada). and then self-treating with SERMS and Anti-AI bought online. i was hoping to have the doctor help me out so i didnt have to buy potentially bunk shit off the internet. I'm thinking of ordering Ralox from research chemical company (i know these arent reliable), or just getting Nolvadex from a canadian UGL or trying to source overseas pharma (but i need it sooner rather than later). without seeing proper bloodwork im pretty sure my estrogen is just high from the Propecia (that she had no problem prescribing without checking bloods) and that any prolactin issues i can take care with high dose B6 p-5-p and mucuna puriens (l-dopa). i want to nip it in the bud and start my test cycle ASAP.


apologies for length

but really hate being treated like a know nothing idiot by the docs any time i try to take care of my own health. the medical system in Canada is super archaic. the doctor even got annoyed with me for bringing up more than one medical issue during my visit. it was at a walk-in clinic cuz i dont have a family doctor. my issues took all of 3 minutes to address and they were treating me like i was really imposing on them. she got really annoyed with me when i questioned her in the slightest and this is a very common theme with physicians, i've found. my old family doctor retired but he was awesome. always willing to listen to my concerns and treat me as a sentient being with my own capability for thought and reasoning rather than a shit receptacle as most doctors seem to like to treat their patients as.

 

[T_verde77]

Female hormone panel test is what u need....

 

[greenddog1]

Drop the finasteride. You want hair or boobs? If you had researched finasteride, one of the side effects include enlarged or painful breasts. I hardly believe prolactin is your problem. Find a GP or a uro instead of a walk in clinic doc. As far as starting a cycle, do the research first. You're not ready.

 

[hazel99]

Female hormone panel test is what u need....

lollllllllll

Drop the finasteride. You want hair or boobs? If you had researched finasteride, one of the side effects include enlarged or painful breasts. I hardly believe prolactin is your problem. Find a GP or a uro instead of a walk in clinic doc. As far as starting a cycle, do the research first. You're not ready.

if the gyno issues are from high estro because excess T that would be converted to DHT is being converted to estro now instead, it makes sense that an AI or SERM would help. i have researched the fuck out of AAS and am pretty damn certain i am ready to use at this point. Def not going to drop Fin. I'm not an impotent hypochondriac and I know of the side effects of finasteride and am going to stay on it because I'll be supplementing T soon. Ill find a way to get full bloodwork done and use it to keep DHT in an acceptable range for my purposes. One can use an AI to keep estro in check, and one can use a 5ar inhibitor to keep DHT in check. If there were huge groups of men out there dosing Anti-AIs without having periodic bloodwork done, the legions of forum users complaining of post-Aromasin syndrome would equal whats going on with Propecia. I understand the implications.

I don't see why Prolactin elevation from constant high end dosing of prolactin elevating peps like GHRP2 couldnt contribute to the nipple issues I'm having. I'm not saying its the sole reason but keeping prolactin in check will surely help. I will know all of this when I get proper bloodwork.

I'm in Canada and getting bloodwork done on a whim isn't as easy as it sounds. I usually have to come up with elaborate lies to tell doctors to get the scripts and lab work done that I want without paying out of my ass at a private clinic or naturopath meant only for rich people. Getting a family physician is next to impossible where I'm from. The endo this walkin clinic doc might refer me to probably knows even less than me and/or will not see eye to eye with my goals. It's just the nature of the situation here. I will try again tomorrow with a different walk in clinic and see if I cant walkout with a script for Nolvadex at least.

and thanks for the condescending tone with you assuming i didnt research Fin. in response may i tell you kindly to suk my dik? thanks . pepperin my angus as we speak

 

[T_verde77]

lollllllllll



if the gyno issues are from high estro because excess T that would be converted to DHT is being converted to estro now instead, it makes sense that an AI or SERM would help. i have researched the fuck out of AAS and am pretty damn certain i am ready to use at this point. Def not going to drop Fin. I'm not an impotent hypochondriac and I know of the side effects of finasteride and am going to stay on it because I'll be supplementing T soon. Ill find a way to get full bloodwork done and use it to keep DHT in an acceptable range for my purposes. One can use an AI to keep estro in check, and one can use a 5ar inhibitor to keep DHT in check. If there were huge groups of men out there dosing Anti-AIs without having periodic bloodwork done, the legions of forum users complaining of post-Aromasin syndrome would equal whats going on with Propecia. I understand the implications.

I don't see why Prolactin elevation from constant high end dosing of prolactin elevating peps like GHRP2 couldnt contribute to the nipple issues I'm having. I'm not saying its the sole reason but keeping prolactin in check will surely help. I will know all of this when I get proper bloodwork.

I'm in Canada and getting bloodwork done on a whim isn't as easy as it sounds. I usually have to come up with elaborate lies to tell doctors to get the scripts and lab work done that I want without paying out of my ass at a private clinic or naturopath meant only for rich people. Getting a family physician is next to impossible where I'm from. The endo this walkin clinic doc might refer me to probably knows even less than me and/or will not see eye to eye with my goals. It's just the nature of the situation here. I will try again tomorrow with a different walk in clinic and see if I cant walkout with a script for Nolvadex at least.

and thanks for the condescending tone with you assuming i didnt research Fin. in response may i tell you kindly to suk my dik? thanks . pepperin my angus as we speak

I was being serious mate. do some research and u will see

 

[hazel99]

I was being serious mate. do some research and u will see

i seeeeeee

thank you for the tip

 

[T_verde77]

i seeeeeee

thank you for the tip

Yup

 

[rigs03]

Finasteride is some scary ass shit

 

[D-Ballin]

Get a new doctor.

 

[Tyler81]

You went to a walk-in clinic and you got shitty service. What do you expect? Those walk-in clinic doctors are either super new fresh out of med school or shitty doctors who dont have their own practice. A lot of them are just there to prescribe antibiotics and write notes for students to get them out of exams. I used to use walk-ins for prescriptions for cialis. "Doc I cant get an errection..." heres some cialis. Great thanks peace.

Either get a real doctor who seems open-minded (youll need to shop around... not sure if you live in a small town or what but there are family doctors around decent sized cities you just have to shop around) or get a referral to an endo.
You can use this walk-in clinic doctor to get the referral.

The endo will at least understand estradiol and probably test you for it.

 

[Izk]

Finasteride is some scary ass shit

i never cycle without it, its really not.

 

[MR10X]

My Urologist checked my E2 when i asked him when he was checking my Test levels
TT 1580 high
FT 26.7 high
E2 17 low
was not using an AI

 

[Dr JIM]

lollllllllll



if the gyno issues are from high estro because excess T that would be converted to DHT is being converted to estro now instead, it makes sense that an AI or SERM would help. i have researched the fuck out of AAS and am pretty damn certain i am ready to use at this point. Def not going to drop Fin. I'm not an impotent hypochondriac and I know of the side effects of finasteride and am going to stay on it because I'll be supplementing T soon. Ill find a way to get full bloodwork done and use it to keep DHT in an acceptable range for my purposes. One can use an AI to keep estro in check, and one can use a 5ar inhibitor to keep DHT in check. If there were huge groups of men out there dosing Anti-AIs without having periodic bloodwork done, the legions of forum users complaining of post-Aromasin syndrome would equal whats going on with Propecia. I understand the implications.

I don't see why Prolactin elevation from constant high end dosing of prolactin elevating peps like GHRP2 couldnt contribute to the nipple issues I'm having. I'm not saying its the sole reason but keeping prolactin in check will surely help. I will know all of this when I get proper bloodwork.

I'm in Canada and getting bloodwork done on a whim isn't as easy as it sounds. I usually have to come up with elaborate lies to tell doctors to get the scripts and lab work done that I want without paying out of my ass at a private clinic or naturopath meant only for rich people. Getting a family physician is next to impossible where I'm from. The endo this walkin clinic doc might refer me to probably knows even less than me and/or will not see eye to eye with my goals. It's just the nature of the situation here. I will try again tomorrow with a different walk in clinic and see if I cant walkout with a script for Nolvadex at least.

and thanks for the condescending tone with you assuming i didnt research Fin. in response may i tell you kindly to suk my dik? thanks . pepperin my angus as we speak

You come here and ask for advice yet already have all the answers.

Worse yet the disrespect you have shown for a physician you're LYING TO is unfathomable!

People of your ilk CANT BE HELPED, and those who try are in for a grave disappointment.

GTFOOH ya moron!