Is NPP really safe? 11x more damaging to blood vessels than test

[TRT@40]

111x

And more damaging to the brain. As I get old, I don't want to put myself at higher risks of debilitating diseases of the brain. I would not want this for any member of the community

 

[tengtren]

duhh. are you a 12 year old.
how old is Nasser?

I believe Nasser el sonbaty is 14

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Why do we have any studies back up that tren is worse for the heart than test or deca? Judging by the sides tren is the worst but with this mindset I get more sides on test than deca...
The point is what’s going on in the background

 

[brutus79]

Why do we have any studies back up that tren is worse for the heart than test or deca? Judging by the sides tren is the worst but with this mindset I get more sides on test than deca...
The point is what’s going on in the background

I just base it on the fact that test is used for hormone balance in humans, deca is used for joint relief in some anti aging settings and tren is used to fatten cows before they slaughter them. I then factor in how I feel on it, the horrible things it does to me physically and emotionally and I stopped doing it despite the rampant improvements physique wise. For me the trade off isn't worth it.... if i was 20 maybe- but not now.

 

[Vomiit]

If I run deca or npp I feel great for about four weeks and then BOOM I get splitting migraines when my BP rises and eventually my neck seizes and I can't get out of bed. Half a dozen times I tried both and I have this outcome every single time... that shit is poison to me. I use hgh for joint relief because it doesn't cripple me and it isn't masking- it is actually making new cells! Yay!

I know im out here replying to a 2k18 thread but migraines and neck seizes ay? Did you do anything to try and combat it? My bp is normal however i am getting the same sides 8 weeks in

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Well Ive only ran two cycles one at 6 months and im running one right now that will be 4 and have had no issues, i get regular blood tests too. Over time it probably will but then again aas isnt safe so if your worried about safety do sarms or test only. Im here for a good time not a long time haha

 

[brutus79]

I know im out here replying to a 2k18 thread but migraines and neck seizes ay? Did you do anything to try and combat it? My bp is normal however i am getting the same sides 8 weeks in

Honestly I just stay away from nandrolone. No matter what ester I have horrible sides related to headaches and neck pain that don’t start until a month or more after first pin. Fuck that shit anyway. I have gains that stuck better from high dose eq or test/hgh cycles- and the gh is way better in the joint pain relief category anyway

 

[Live_Evil]

To hell with nandrolone or any 19nor for that matter.

Test and primo are my shit, and I'll throw in anavar here and there when I want god like strength gains.

I'd probably be willing to try some EQ, but at this point test and primo treat me so well, I don't really care to try anything else.

 

[brutus79]

To hell with nandrolone or any 19nor for that matter.

Test and primo are my shit, and I'll throw in anavar here and there when I want god like strength gains.

I'd probably be willing to try some EQ, but at this point test and primo treat me so well, I don't really care to try anything else.

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it should be the golden rule with hormones

 

[Theworm]

Guess I’m an outlier, I love deca. I love the strength on it, I feel great mentally, have more libido, and gain nice lean muscle. Ran it 600 with trt a few times and no sides... most I like how easy it is on my hair, been blasting and cruising for 20 years now and still have about 95% of my hair at age 42. Also I look young (maybe collagen production?) and not the heavy androgen old guy look. Hard to explain.

The neurotransmitters issues bother me and the endothelial dysfunction do as well, so in my older age I’m going to stick with one 14 week blast a year with nandrolone. But it’s been my favorite second to test of course

 

[Cashton]

Guess I’m an outlier, I love deca. I love the strength on it, I feel great mentally, have more libido, and gain nice lean muscle. Ran it 600 with trt a few times and no sides... most I like how easy it is on my hair, been blasting and cruising for 20 years now and still have about 95% of my hair at age 42. Also I look young (maybe collagen production?) and not the heavy androgen old guy look. Hard to explain.

The neurotransmitters issues bother me and the endothelial dysfunction do as well, so in my older age I’m going to stick with one 14 week blast a year with nandrolone. But it’s been my favorite second to test of course

I with ya’ I love deca, and the gains that come with it, I get next to no side effects, sometimes it hard to cum but this 600deca 500test cycle I’m on right now I haven’t had that problem yet and I’m making good progress. Got some dianabol (dbol/adrol) from a friend in a trade so I’m gonna take a few weeks of that too.

 

[RomanMVP]

Guess I’m an outlier, I love deca. I love the strength on it, I feel great mentally, have more libido, and gain nice lean muscle. Ran it 600 with trt a few times and no sides... most I like how easy it is on my hair, been blasting and cruising for 20 years now and still have about 95% of my hair at age 42. Also I look young (maybe collagen production?) and not the heavy androgen old guy look. Hard to explain.

The neurotransmitters issues bother me and the endothelial dysfunction do as well, so in my older age I’m going to stick with one 14 week blast a year with nandrolone. But it’s been my favorite second to test of course

Nope, you're not an outlier, you're gonna find alot of guy, including me, agree with you. Have always loved deca, have cycled it many times. Never any problems.