Is this a low IGF-1 reading?

[bigtyivier2k2]

Ive been taking 5iu in the AM of Goodlyfe HGH for the last few months and decided to test IGF-1 so the morning of my test I did a whole vial injection on empty stomach and went to do the blood work fasted obviously.

Got the results back and IGF-1 was only 509 ng which seems kinda low since the morning of I did a whole vial. I was expecting around 800.

Thoughts?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

IGF is built up from rHGH injections over weeks prior to the draw date.

I believe atleast 2 weeks.

You are thinking of GH serum is reflected same day.

 

[Type-IIx]

It is very high and reflects good GH response.

 

[Type-IIx]

IGF is reflected built up weeks prior to the draw date.



I believe atleast 2 weeks.

You are thinking of GH serum is reflected short term.

Correct. The increase to IGF-I peaks at week 6, and begins to diminish between months 4 - 5, demonstrated by a decrement (-Δ) in IGF-I of 11.82% & by month 9, -42.73% at a constant rhGH dose.

GH serum is a shit measure, though, that should never be relied on for verifying product authenticity even as a binary test because it is similarly increased by GH secretagogues (e.g., Ghrelin mimetics, GHRH analogues).

 

[bigtyivier2k2]

Whats the right way to measure IGF-1 to get an idea of how good the HGH are using is in terms of quality HGH ?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I personally feel like there is almost no point. IGF response can differ on bulking or cutting.

If I am cutting, I may run 5-7u. Bulking maybe 3-4

 

[Chips7]

Correct. The increase to IGF-I peaks at week 6, and begins to diminish between months 4 - 5, demonstrated by a decrement (-Δ) in IGF-I of 11.82% & by month 9, -42.73% at a constant rhGH dose.

GH serum is a shit measure, though, that should never be relied on for verifying product authenticity even as a binary test because it is similarly increased by GH secretagogues (e.g., Ghrelin mimetics, GHRH analogues).

Following your write, how much time we need to break between run of hgh to restore the sensitivy of our igf-1 after constant hgh dose ?

Like 6 month ON / 1 month OFF or more ?

 

[Type-IIx]

Following your write, how much time we need to break between run of hgh to restore the sensitivy of our igf-1 after constant hgh dose ?

Like 6 month ON / 1 month OFF or more ?

Sorry brother but you'll have to look forward to my book, Bolus' practical section that describes this in detail. Can't divulge too much. The website & bookstore is coming along, it'll be there soon.

 

[Type-IIx]

Whats the right way to measure IGF-1 to get an idea of how good the HGH are using is in terms of quality HGH ?

HP/LC or GC/MS methods are what are used to verify rhGH quality (e.g., Jano).

IGF-I (serum, blood) measurement is used to assess your GH response, and if you have an accurate base-line, you can determine dose/response as reflected by ΔIGF-I.

Further reading:

Guide: How to Establish your Base-Line IGF-I (Serum) in Order to Determine Dose/Response (ΔIGF-I) to Agents that Increase IGF-I (e.g., rhGH)

Establishing a Base-Line Serum IGF-I Value Author: Type-IIx Intent: (1) To help users establish a base-line serum IGF-I value In order to form a meaningful basis for comparison of serum IGF-I changes to base-line. (2) To help prospective clients (i.e., Comprehensive Coaching [training +...

thinksteroids.com

Factors that Diminish GH Response (↓Δ IGF-I); The Purpose of the Serum IGF-I Test: A Revision (2.0) [Author: Type-IIx]

This writing is intended to replace and supersede The Serum IGF-I Test: Its... (version 1.0; Nov 23 2021). The Serum GH is utterly useless for any purpose we'd be interested in. The Serum IGF-I test is what's used to determine GH response (Δ IGF-I). Factors that diminish GH response (↓ Δ...

thinksteroids.com

 

[songsofpyramids]

Sorry brother but you'll have to look forward to my book, Bolus' practical section that describes this in detail. Can't divulge too much. The website & bookstore is coming along, it'll be there soon.

As someone just starting their first run of rhGH using your protocols and loving it and the results thus far I simply can’t wait for your book.

Will your book lay out the safest possible protocols? Also, will you lay out a good titration schedule? I decided on following genotropin’s package insert suggested dose (0.04mg/kg/week) and move up at .1iu a week to mitigate sides.

 

[Type-IIx]

As someone just starting their first run of rhGH using your protocols and loving it and the results thus far I simply can’t wait for your book.

Will your book lay out the safest possible protocols? Also, will you lay out a good titration schedule? I decided on following genotropin’s package insert suggested dose (0.04mg/kg/week) and move up at .1iu a week to mitigate sides.

The book will equip the reader to do his or her own risk/reward (tradeoff) assessments, and give examples of different protocols oriented towards the objective of rhGH use (e.g., fat loss, muscle gain, recovery from intensive exercise, "anti-aging," etc.).

Titration is pretty individual, tbh, I don't think I should address it in the manner that you propose. This is because after a user has titrated up based on tolerability, that same user can stop taking rhGH for considerable time (months to years) and resume at that maximally tolerable dose more often than not without substantial side effects.

 

[songsofpyramids]

The book will equip the reader to do his or her own risk/reward (tradeoff) assessments, and give examples of different protocols oriented towards the objective of rhGH use (e.g., fat loss, muscle gain, recovery from intensive exercise, "anti-aging," etc.).

Titration is pretty individual, tbh, I don't think I should address it in the manner that you propose. This is because after a user has titrated up based on tolerability, that same user can stop taking rhGH for considerable time (months to years) and resume at that maximally tolerable dose more often than not without substantial side effects.

Cannot wait for the book. Very interesting about the titration schedule. I assumed I would have to ramp up again after pausing use.

 

[MadaFacor]

The book will equip the reader to do his or her own risk/reward (tradeoff) assessments, and give examples of different protocols oriented towards the objective of rhGH use (e.g., fat loss, muscle gain, recovery from intensive exercise, "anti-aging," etc.).

Titration is pretty individual, tbh, I don't think I should address it in the manner that you propose. This is because after a user has titrated up based on tolerability, that same user can stop taking rhGH for considerable time (months to years) and resume at that maximally tolerable dose more often than not without substantial side effects.

I have lots of questions. When is it released?

 

[brutalbuilt]

yeah gh serum is more reliable imo

anything 30 or above means you have quality gh

 

[xrayphoton13]

I have lots of questions. When is it released?

I'm curious too. I saw him post on another forum that it would be out early 2023 but that was a year ago now

 

[Type-IIx]

I have lots of questions. When is it released?

Within, optimistically, 2 months' time. I believe. I am confident. But I cannot promise.

It will, I promise, be sold from Ampouletude: Home of Type-IIx

 

[AlexDavis43]

yeah gh serum is more reliable imo

anything 30 or above means you have quality gh

what dose & duration? how long since last injection was blood drawn?