Is This Proper Dosing?

[Rido]

And, it's a little simplistic, but lets say double that (300mg) puts you at 1800. It probably won't even be that much but many/most of the reference ranges have 1200 as the upper normal limit. 1800 is pretty darn close 1200.

1800 is close to 1200?

Ok

300mg is still not typical trt dose.

 

[hometeam]

1800 is close to 1200?

Ok

300mg is still not typical trt dose.

Well don't get me wrong... 1800 is really high for a natty person. But in the bodybuilding world where people are regularly putting on 20+ lbs in a 3 month cycle 300mg/week is a sissy cycle - not really a cycle not really TRT - with gains that can easily be achieved naturally it would just take a few months longer. And not worth the money, risk, and shutting down your HTPA.

But, you do you. Not everyone wants to be a body builder. You don't happen to be a pro soccer player or cyclist where gains aren't really what you want from a cycle, do you?

 

[Rido]

Well don't get me wrong... 1800 is really high for a natty person. But in the bodybuilding world where people are regularly putting on 20+ lbs in a 3 month cycle 300mg/week is a sissy cycle - not really a cycle not really TRT - with gains that can easily be achieved naturally it would just take a few months longer. And not worth the money, risk, and shutting down your HTPA.

But, you do you. Not everyone wants to be a body builder. You don't happen to be a pro soccer player or cyclist where gains aren't really what you want from a cycle, do you?

Some of us enjoy the endorphin and the happiness from it. I have never enjoyed liftingn after I tore my chest and herniated my disc.

20lbs of what? Alot of water weight? Maybe the first cycle you could. People weight values on different things in life. I was tired of being pissed off all the time and irritable. Trt has mellowed me out alot.

Even if I could obtain the gains naturally. Which my gains slowed down alot. I hated going to the gym.

The endorphin release during lifting has been a game changer for my life

My libido was also shot. It boosted it.

My wife and I make a decent living and this has made both of our lives better.


Is it worth 2k a year for labs and to be watched over by a doctor?
Absolutely. Even if I had to stop this cycle I know I am covered.

 

[hometeam]

Some of us enjoy the endorphin and the happiness from it. I have never enjoyed liftingn after I tore my chest and herniated my disc.

20lbs of what? Alot of water weight? Maybe the first cycle you could. People weight values on different things in life. I was tired of being pissed off all the time and irritable. Trt has mellowed me out alot.

Even if I could obtain the gains naturally. Which my gains slowed down alot. I hated going to the gym.

The endorphin release during lifting has been a game changer for my life

My libido was also shot. It boosted it.

My wife and I make a decent living and this has made both of our lives better.


Is it worth 2k a year for labs and to be watched over by a doctor?
Absolutely. Even if I had to stop this cycle I know I am covered.

My first cycle was about 20 years ago, and I'm revealing my age. I'd been weight training daily since about 13 yrs old, was an elite high school and college athlete.

Started out with 500 sustanon, the greek organon pharma vial stuff. Liked it so much I added these 50mg winstrol tabs after about a month... the blue Chinese stuff that was all the rage back then. After about a month of that tren was all the rage, fina pellets and conversion kits were easy to get, so I added 70mg tren ace per day for 2 months.

Now I can't be certain of that dose because of the brewing, but ultimately it was a 4 month cycle starting with half a gram of anabolics and ending with about a gram total of 3 different compounds the last couple months. You can imagine I blew up. I went from being a 160 lb beanpole who had such a ectomorph metabolism I could eat all day whatever I want and couldn't put on a lb to save my life (like a lot of people are at 20yrs old) to 195lbs and not an ounce of that was fat. You can also imagine with tren and winny there's no bloat either.

So I PCT'd off, ended up at 190 and very lean, and never did another cycle again for 15 years. And the muscle stayed with me. I got married, had a kid, lost my hair, got a dad bod, then decided to go back on again. Muscle memory made it very easy to get back to my 20 yr old body. And now I've surpassed it.

Believe me, if I did a 300mg cycle it would've been a waste and more harm than good. But there are some real noobs out there who have no idea how to train, eat, or use needles and probably should start out just above trt so they can figure some stuff out. You probably are that noob. But a guy like Ironman, if he's a vet and 250+ lbs of granite, he'll probably need 300 just to maintain.

 

[Nikolay Petrov]

The more often you pin the more stable your bloods will be which is why i'd like to pin more than once or twice a week.

I'm not familiar with many testosterone products, I was mainly used Omnadren (Sustanon) for my cycles, which is a combination of 4 esters. Basically when one stops working, the next one starts. I've pinned 250mg per week with 1 time a week, 2 times a week and EOD and I didn't notice difference. I guess if it's a TRT dose of like 125mg, the 2 times a week will be more than enough. I'm also considering pinning in the abdomen with insulin injections, I've read somewhere that it doesn't raise estrogen that much, not to mention how easy and perfect for small dosages such as 125mg that is...

I just realised that you want to cruise with 300mg. I was the same But my blood pressure is kicking me in the head and I'm starting to worry. So I finally decided to try with 125mg per week and maintain my levels at the high range so I can be healthy. I'm also 100+kg I also hope I won't lose much weight I've been on the high end of the range (40nmol, 1200ng) and I was feeling awesome. Why don't you try it for a few weeks?

Super high testosterone = high blood pressure, estrogen and sometimes even prolactin, low LH/FSH and sperm volume, erectile dysfunction, basically a fucking nightmare