Is this Proviron fake?

[kakaboom!21]

Do you believe that explanation?

It could be true. I don't want to say it's not fake because it could be, and I wouldn't want to take responsibility of unintentionally misleading a forum member into taking something I'm not 100% sure about.
There's a seller on here, @TurkishPharmacySteroids
He has connections to local warehouses and can help you understand the situation. If you bought product from him, I would for sure believe this explanation.

Saving $4,20 x 100.000 doesn't make sense to you?

Wasn't aware 100k packages of fake Bayer proviron were floating around, while Proviron is a mediocre drug in bodybuilding used for only one specific purpose and is extremely cheap to make. AGAIN, not saying no one is doing that in the US/EU, because it's much easier to make fake product in a UGL rather than simply freaking go out and buy it in ANY pharmacy WITHOUT prescription. Do you get what I'm saying? If he bought it from Turkey directly, there's very high chance it's real.
I would 100% agree with you on primo or Sust or Deca, as people would be buying tons of it and it would make a significant profit to produce fakes like that.

Trying to juxtapose original vs counterfeit product via external characteristics soothes the boomer soul but new hoes playin' new tricks that pass all these checks, and you're buying into a dangerous delusion by coming to any conclusion without labtesting the internals, whether that's the API, composition of excipients or variance between samples.

It's his choice... Testing 1-2 boxes of dirt cheap proviron (unless he bought tons of it) for $100 would seem more difficult than simply requesting a reship from the seller if it'd been a mistake or simply getting rid of it and shopping elsewhere, more reliable. Heck, Proviron is literally in my closet I would be happy to give it away for free as I have no purpose of using it.

 

[kakaboom!21]

I have been comparing the photos of the box of @kakaboom!21 proviron's with mine and I think my box is fake. There is a translation error because the word "oral" does not exist in Turkish.

@kakaboom!21, could you upload a picture of the other side of the box?

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1. Oral is a Turkish word as well, it's on many pill packs that I've bought at local pharmacies. Example below. Old proviron boxes (ones I bought before my first cycle) had "oral" on them.
2. The braille thing confused me as well, but you have it on the front of the packaging. Didn't you say that the pack has been identified in the app? (İlaç Takip Sistemi or İTS in App Store). If it was verified, I would only question expiration date on the blister. I simply cannot tell you how many times I've seen these small differences myself while shopping in foreign pharmacies.

 

[Liska]

Wasn't aware 100k packages of fake Bayer proviron were floating around, while Proviron is a mediocre drug in bodybuilding used for only one specific purpose and is extremely cheap to make.

Far more than that, I was talking about just a single batch by just one counterfeit manufacturer - you're severely underestimating the scale of the pharma (counterfeit) industry. Consider that Proviron (Mesterolone) is a brand name so popular and thus valuable that it's fallen prey to so called genericide, just like Primobolan (Metenolone), Dianabol (Methandienone) and Viagra (Sildenafil): "the process by which a brand name loses its distinctive identity as a result of being used to refer to any product or service of its kind."

 

[kakaboom!21]

Far more than that

Dam, haven't thought of that Good point

 

[deckroid3]

Didn't you say that the pack has been identified in the app? (İlaç Takip Sistemi or İTS in App Store).

Yes. I used that app through a Turkish government website (http://www.its.gov.tr/its/ilac_sorgula (www.its.gov.tr/its/ilac_sorgula)). And I remember that the result, from the codes on the package, were that it was proviron and that the expiration date (and the batch number) was the one that was on the package. I don't know how secure this information can be because I think it's very easy to copy that information from a real package and put it in a fake one. Today I tried to verify it again but the website no longer works and I think the Turkish government now requires that you identify yourself in order to use that application.

I have also used the phone app but it does not work. The app always tells me to try again later.

 

[niclor]

Errato, mi ho appena comprato nuovi Proviron e Rimobolan dalla farmacia. Le date di scadenza sono 2024-2026.
Erano esauriti, ma ora non più.

22 SET 2022- L'AIFA ha comunicato la revoca a seguito della rinuncia all'AIC/AIP, da parte delle società BAYER SPA, ARISTO PHARMA GMBH dei medicinali:
• PROVIRON 50 mg compresse 20 compresse AIC 02193855;
• NEBIVOLOLO ARISTO, AIC 0381342, confezioni varie
Per questi medicinali, l'AIFA ha contestualmente concesso lo smaltimento delle scorte, con termine non superiore a 180 giorni dalla pubblicazione della relativa determinazione in Gazzetta Ufficiale.

 

[deckroid3]

22 SET 2022- L'AIFA ha comunicato la revoca a seguito della rinuncia all'AIC/AIP, da parte delle società BAYER SPA, ARISTO PHARMA GMBH dei medicinali:
• PROVIRON 50 mg compresse 20 compresse AIC 02193855;
• NEBIVOLOLO ARISTO, AIC 0381342, confezioni varie
Per questi medicinali, l'AIFA ha contestualmente concesso lo smaltimento delle scorte, con termine non superiore a 180 giorni dalla pubblicazione della relativa determinazione in Gazzetta Ufficiale.

That revocation is for the 50 mg proviron, not the 25 mg one.

 

[niclor]

Tale revoca riguarda il proviron da 50 mg, non per quello da 25 mg.

Posso assicurarvi che da quei dati qui in Italia Proviron è stato ritirato da tutte le farmacie e in ogni formato. Allora sei libero di non credere

 

[Realwood]

That’s crazy man that’s a REAL good fake if it’s fake. Real Bayer is supposed to be the only good Proviron too. All the Proviron I’ve tried from pharma blisters has done nothing. Ever. I’ve tried numerous sources too but never got actual Bayer. I say it’s prob real and I’d definitely try it.

 

[deckroid3]

@kakaboom!21, I have compared your package and mine on that side that appears in the photo you have uploaded. If you enlarge this image you will notice that the quality of the print of the Bayer logo is much lower in my box than in yours. The marks on the cardboard to open the package are also of lower quality. I think there are already several things that indicate that my package could be fake.

 

[kakaboom!21]

I have also used the phone app but it does not work. The app always tells me to try again later.

Just scanned mine brother, here's a screenshot.
If you look very closely, in the gov app the picture looks more like yours - it has the word "oral" on it.

Yes, you could certainly copy the numbers, but copying a QR code (which I scanned) is much harder, if the QR code system is advanced enough.
If you can scan the QR code later and it's verified, there's a very high chance it's not fake and actually what the seller is saying is true.
I've shown your pics to a few people here and they said it doesn't look fake, though they've seen tons of fake rimos and provirons.
If it is fake, it's some next level production.

 

[kakaboom!21]

@kakaboom!21, I have compared your package and mine on that side that appears in the photo you have uploaded. If you enlarge this image you will notice that the quality of the print of the Bayer logo is much lower in my box than in yours. The marks on the cardboard to open the package are also of lower quality. I think there are already several things that indicate that my package could be fake.

Could be, doesn't mean it is. My proviron packaging is 11.26 exp, yours is 2024. They've changed packaging 3 times in the past few years, including the word "oral". Don't get me wrong I'm not saying you should take it, just pointing out things I see.

 

[deckroid3]

Yes, you could certainly copy the numbers, but copying a QR code (which I scanned) is much harder, if the QR code system is advanced enough.

Why do you say that it is more difficult to copy a QR code than to copy the numbers? To copy a QR code you simply have to print it again just as you would with the numbers.

 

[deckroid3]

Could be, doesn't mean it is. My proviron packaging is 11.26 exp, yours is 2024. They've changed packaging 3 times in the past few years, including the word "oral". Don't get me wrong I'm not saying you should take it, just pointing out things I see.

Indications that it could be fake:
- The expiration date and the batch number of the blister is not the same as that of the package.
- The printing quality of the Bayer logo is much lower.
- The quality of the marks on the cardboard of the package to open it is lower.

I can't be sure it's fake because I haven't analyzed the contents of the pills, but it's highly suspicious.

 

[kakaboom!21]

Indications that it could be fake:
- The expiration date and the batch number of the blister is not the same as that of the package.
- The printing quality of the Bayer logo is much lower.
- The quality of the marks on the cardboard of the package to open it is lower.

I can't be sure it's fake because I haven't analyzed the contents of the pills, but it's highly suspicious.

I compared blisters and yes yours is probably fake.
My apologies for not seeing it sooner. The packaging could be legit but blister clearly isn't.
Here's 3 things that are different on the original Proviron.
1. Edges of each pill on the blister. (yours doesn't have them at all)
2. The print of yours on the blister is messier and done differently
3. Pills in your pics seem more greenish or yellowish, could also be the light but the blister itself says it all.

 

[deckroid3]

I compared blisters and yes yours is probably fake.
My apologies for not seeing it sooner. The packaging could be legit but blister clearly isn't.
Here's 3 things that are different on the original Proviron.
1. Edges of each pill on the blister. (yours doesn't have them at all)
2. The print of yours on the blister is messier and done differently
3. Pills in your pics seem more greenish or yellowish, could also be the light but the blister itself says it all.

The mobile camera seems to change the color, but the pills are really white.

 

[120nmol]

This is the proviron that I have

 

[deckroid3]

This is the proviron that I have
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Looks authentic. Did you get it at a pharmacy?

 

[120nmol]

Looks authentic. Did you get it at a pharmacy?

Ye from turkish local pharmacy

 

[deckroid3]

Ye from turkish local pharmacy

in a turkish pharmacy? Well, I think your proviron doesn't look like the photos posted by @kakaboom!21.