exphysiologist88
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Yes, now I have. I'm mostly at ironmag and the complaints are only about price there.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Is World Pharma Legit?
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Yes, now I have. I'm mostly at ironmag and the complaints are only about price there.
Then who asked you to come here today? You all came from the same place, clearly somebody asked you to come here.
chrisotpherm
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It is obvious that many have come over to defend or verify, I'm honest and admit I have. I can't verify through documentation of the validity of AP lab, just speak from personal use and experience that WP does provide great prods. I will leave it at that.
regular
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Going to go ahead and repost this from the AP/BD thread.
WP/AP/BD falsely represent UGL products as something other than UGL. In creating this false distinction they fetch a higher premium for their products which is a scam. Shills enable and promote this ongoing scam. We are in opposition of this practice. I do not understand why anyone would inject something into their body that comes from a source who is dishonest.
Bottom line, you're either a shill getting a break on the price of your gear for hyping their products on the board or you don't mind getting charged outrageous prices for UGL products. It's obvious which scenario is more likely.
WP/AP/BD falsely represent UGL products as something other than UGL. In creating this false distinction they fetch a higher premium for their products which is a scam. Shills enable and promote this ongoing scam. We are in opposition of this practice. I do not understand why anyone would inject something into their body that comes from a source who is dishonest.
Bottom line, you're either a shill getting a break on the price of your gear for hyping their products on the board or you don't mind getting charged outrageous prices for UGL products. It's obvious which scenario is more likely.
I've been here for some time and did not come from IM, I post there anymore as much as I post here. I just noticed this thread and all the familiar names and decided to weigh in. Anyone on the web can find complaints about sources if they look enough, I've seen it about Naps, Z, EA and others. I'm only sure of my experiences.
Thats not a scam it's advertising, it is like asking more for a GMC than a Chevy, nothing else. Scamming is when you do not receive your goods. Everyone that asks WP gets a break on his gear, this is a known fact. And yes I don't mind shelling out a little more for something I know is dosed correctly. UGL or not.
I would like to know why you call everyone who doesn't think like you a "shill".
regular
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They are involved in an ongoing scam by misleading the community which you are aware of and are attempting to minimize. Representing a product as something more than UGL and charging 3-5x more than other UGLs is a scam that only new guys who don't know any better fall for and shills such as yourself enable and promote.
Using your analogy buying AP/BD products from WP is like paying for a BMW and getting a Honda in return except the owner has no idea he really has a Honda and he thinks he is driving a BMW. Everyone who knows better is asking themselves why both parties are doing this.
I believe you're a shill because you showed up attacking everyone in this thread defending WP at all costs while acknowledging that they are being dishonest and then attempting to minimize that dishonestly. I don't see why anyone would inject something into their body from a source which is dishonest.
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Look up shill in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that he has a close relationship with that person or organization.
"Shill" typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that he is an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) for whom he is secretly working. The person or group who hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members to purchase the goods or services (or accept the ideas being marketed). Shills are often employed by professional marketing campaigns. "Plant" and "stooge" more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually a part of the organization he is planted in, such as a magician's audience, a political party, or an intelligence organization (see double agent).[citation needed]
Shill? I had to look that one up, it's terminology I'm not familiar with. Nothing could be further from the truth actually as I have no ties to and do not work for WP. Sorry brother but you got me wrong. There isn't anything more I can say about that because there is nothing more. I wait for a sale and order, that simple, because I cannot afford those prices. When I do buy however I always get what I order and it is legit. Like I said before I'm not here to build a customer base, just to share my experience.
Pericles and myself had words and that I guess is what you are talking about in regards to "attacks and defending at all costs". As I recall this an unmoderated forum and you pretty much can say what you want, kinda like you are doing. I've been through this thread and there are only a few of you actually driving the traffic here. One member said they had been taken that's all and some links to some boards where put up. While there were complaints they looked kinda dated. I'm sure that if you looked you could find links to boards where there are guys saying the opposite. But then they would be shills in your book too. I guess?
Are we only entitled to your opinion?
Look up shill in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that he has a close relationship with that person or organization.
"Shill" typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that he is an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) for whom he is secretly working. The person or group who hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members to purchase the goods or services (or accept the ideas being marketed). Shills are often employed by professional marketing campaigns. "Plant" and "stooge" more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually a part of the organization he is planted in, such as a magician's audience, a political party, or an intelligence organization (see double agent).[citation needed]
Shill? I had to look that one up, it's terminology I'm not familiar with. Nothing could be further from the truth actually as I have no ties to and do not work for WP. Sorry brother but you got me wrong. There isn't anything more I can say about that because there is nothing more. I wait for a sale and order, that simple, because I cannot afford those prices. When I do buy however I always get what I order and it is legit. Like I said before I'm not here to build a customer base, just to share my experience.
Pericles and myself had words and that I guess is what you are talking about in regards to "attacks and defending at all costs". As I recall this an unmoderated forum and you pretty much can say what you want, kinda like you are doing. I've been through this thread and there are only a few of you actually driving the traffic here. One member said they had been taken that's all and some links to some boards where put up. While there were complaints they looked kinda dated. I'm sure that if you looked you could find links to boards where there are guys saying the opposite. But then they would be shills in your book too. I guess?
Are we only entitled to your opinion?
regular
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You showed up yesterday vigorously defending world pharma / asia pharma and have not made a single post about any other topic. With world pharma's reputation for offering free gear in exchange for positive feedback on the boards why wouldn't anyone suspect you to be anything other than a shill?
Pericles
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This^ Look, WP products may be very good UGL products, but I get excellent products for 1/4 of the price.
The scamming/shilling is when WP reps come onto this board and try and argue that WP is better than the much lower priced UGLs. M Jasper even came on one day and claimed that WP was "FDA approved."
Come on, most gear we use was never meant for humans. Thus it will never get FDA approval. Yes, there are risks involved in dealing w/ them, but the bottom line is that WP sells UGL products and tries to paas them off as HG for a 500% markup.
chrisotpherm
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I say it is what it is and let those people make their own decisions. We can sit here and argue about price, quality, legitimacy, but at the end of the day people will choose what they want or spend money on.
Not really true, but you know what I'm tired of arguing with you guys. I have a different perspective than you and I respect yours because you defend your beliefs.
tommyguns
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Re: this sucks !!- is this juice related?
Years ago I established a baseline for my PSA, this is something all men should do regardless of AAS use. Have some labs done and see if it is elevated, BPA is more common as we age and can be treated easily with medication.
I'm not a rep and don't get free stuff, I just don't.
I'm glad we can agree that the gear is good at least. The price is really high, no one posting here has said any different.
I think most of my posts have been about the gear being legit and me never being scammed. Nothing else, except some jousting with you. That happens when jacked alphas like us get excited.
regular
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The title of the thread was "Is World Pharma Legit?"
The answer is no. They falsely represent their products as something more than what they really are. Even the shills admit that they are misrepresenting their products.
regular
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I stand corrected. You showed up yesterday and have made 15 world pharma related posts and 1 non world pharma related post.
First of all, I'm sorry you were scammed but to say I asked anyone to support WP is absolutely false. I haven't asked anyone to come here or post anything in relation to WP.
As far as modding, Millard asked me to help out and I could not devote the time as I have several other large sites I admin on.
Bigkarch
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its amazing what some will compromise or put up with for the all mighty dollar and/or free gear
regular
New Member
Why? You got any $170 AP UGL tren you want to vouch for?
chrisotpherm
New Member
Lol. This is getting good. Play on. Lol.
regular
New Member
Shill, why do you consider world pharma to be 100% legit when they sell UGL products which they represent as FDA approved?
