Isotretinoin (accutane) while on cycle

Sounds like you have a good bit of experience running it also. I still have oily skin at 44 lol. Zero acne but some minor blackheads on sides of nostrils. Not noticeable unless in a magnifying mirror but I still hate the general oil production.

I’ve considered going hard on the Accutane for the minimum time required to dry me out for good. However, I am almost certain that oral steroids will turn those oil glands on full blast for me no matter how dry I get from Accutane.

My question is does this not happen to you or others? Am I an outlier here?

You're suffering from hyperseborrhea. I only learned this is a medical condition in the last few years. I just thought it was "normal" oily skin type.

A lifetime of 2 showers a day or hair becomes intolerably oily. Always oily upper back skin. Glasses sliding off nose. Worse, it speeds male pattern balding since scalp sebum transports DHT around the scalp, and strangles hair follicles by preventing oxygen from reaching them. I had been telling derms about my scalp pain for years, often followed by hair loss in the affected area, and none of them ever mentioned hyperseborrhea as a possibility, dismissing it because the loss followed the normal androgenic pattern, More evidence you need to be your own medical advocate,

Testosterone supercharges it.

Accutane shrinks sebum glands, permanently if you're successful at going through a high dose course.

As in my nose shrunk, visibly, significantly, around the 4 month mark. That's how fucking big those glands get.

I don't go into this too much since it seems to be rare, but curing the hyperseborrhea is almost even better than getting rid of acne.

It's amazing to go a full day with hair staying normal, and not getting oily within a few hours of a shower.

The good news is at least your skin is likely in much better shape thanks to all the natural oils protecting it over the decades.
 
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I've always dealt with some level of back and shoulder acne, AAS set the bacne on fire though. Experiencing how well it works, how easy the sides have been to deal with (for me), knowing. what I know now, even without the AAS I would've done this a long time ago.

A couple gelcaps twice a day for 5 months, dry lips, in exchange for the improvements I've seen has been well worth it. The anti-photoaging effects, nose shrinkage, not having greasy hair 6 hours after a shower, along with the clearing skin and (odds are) only having to do this once is definitely worth it for me.
Hey brother just want to say I very much appreciate your input! The various topics I've found your posts there always worth reading! I have so much more to think about now in a fantastic way.
 
Up to 170mg ED now, zero persistent sides (had a slight sore throat for 2 days but might not be related). That's my maximum dose now as I currently weigh 85 kg.

So for me it was 14 days on 10mg, then reading Ghouls experiences, deciding to go for a cure and upping dosage as quickly as possible.

This is my protocol for eliminating sides:

Two doses. One dose in the morning (80mg) straight after waking and 2nd dose (90mg) 3hrs before bed.

1x slice of cheese.
5-10 almonds.
80mg Accutane dose.
300ml water with 5g of pink Himalayan salt.
Wait 1hr then another 700ml of water.

Not sure if the low sides is due to the above but if I only drink 300ml with the Accutane dose then a headache appears about 2hrs afterwards. Adding the initial salt and 700ml 1hr later prevents the headache from appearing.

So far no joint pain and no dry lips.

All acne cleared in the fist 7 days. I only had 40 spots total on shoulders/upper biceps...

... but I have a bald head and living in Thailand it was constantly covered in an annoying thin layer of grease. Not having a greasy head anymore has been worth the Accutane course alone.

Rez
 

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Up to 170mg ED now, zero persistent sides (had a slight sore throat for 2 days but might not be related). That's my maximum dose now as I currently weigh 85 kg.

So for me it was 14 days on 10mg, then reading Ghouls experiences, deciding to go for a cure and upping dosage as quickly as possible.

This is my protocol for eliminating sides:

Two doses. One dose in the morning (80mg) straight after waking and 2nd dose (90mg) 3hrs before bed.

1x slice of cheese.
5-10 almonds.
80mg Accutane dose.
300ml water with 5g of pink Himalayan salt.
Wait 1hr then another 700ml of water.

Not sure if the low sides is due to the above but if I only drink 300ml with the Accutane dose then a headache appears about 2hrs afterwards. Adding the initial salt and 700ml 1hr later prevents the headache from appearing.

So far no joint pain and no dry lips.

All acne cleared in the fist 7 days. I only had 40 spots total on shoulders/upper biceps...

... but I have a bald head and living in Thailand it was constantly covered in an annoying thin layer of grease. Not having a greasy head anymore has been worth the Accutane course alone.

Rez

No dry lips is amazing brother!

Interestingly my dry lips have started to go away as I approach the end of my accutane use, which I wasn't expecting.
 
No dry lips is amazing brother!

Interestingly my dry lips have started to go away as I approach the end of my accutane use, which I wasn't expecting.
They've lost a bit of stretch... as in they could crack if that lack of stretch got worst but so far so good. Doesn't feel like I need any lip balm yet :)
 
Thank you so much for the voice of reason. Either play with the stuff and get nothing for long term effectiveness or do it right, get the total dosage needed in within 6mths just like doctors say. Sure there are piles of people on here that know way more than some old doctor and decades of evidence and testing however I'm going to stick with @Ghoul and the medical industry since I feel safer in that direction
So these decades of evidence have to do with isotret in conjuction with.. whatever youre putting in your body?

Everyones iso usage on here is very much off label and in no way recommended by doctors. If youre sticking to the medical industry's opinion, you wouldn't be ordering drugs from sketch overseas parmacies.
Also Ive been scribed full 6 month courses of the stuff twice in my twenties, and it always comes back on cycle. I'll stick to the smallest dose of this powerful and side effect -ridden drug while on.
 
So these decades of evidence have to do with isotret in conjuction with.. whatever youre putting in your body?

Everyones iso usage on here is very much off label and in no way recommended by doctors. If youre sticking to the medical industry's opinion, you wouldn't be ordering drugs from sketch overseas parmacies.
Also Ive been scribed full 6 month courses of the stuff twice in my twenties, and it always comes back on cycle. I'll stick to the smallest dose of this powerful and side effect -ridden drug while on.
Did you say 10-20mg every 2-3 days works for you?

Tempted to try 10mg every two days to see if it outperforms tret cream, which is a pain to plaster all over my back daily and not 100% effective. Also have low BMD so if I take accutane it would 100% need to be low dose.

Acne flairs are far worse when switching from cruise -> blast and visa versa but can be sustained during a cycle, too.
 
So these decades of evidence have to do with isotret in conjuction with.. whatever youre putting in your body?

Everyones iso usage on here is very much off label and in no way recommended by doctors. If youre sticking to the medical industry's opinion, you wouldn't be ordering drugs from sketch overseas parmacies.
Also Ive been scribed full 6 month courses of the stuff twice in my twenties, and it always comes back on cycle. I'll stick to the smallest dose of this powerful and side effect -ridden drug while on.

I always debate whether it's worth tearing down "feels" arguments since it never gets anywhere with a Tren jacked poster, but for the benefit of everyone else I will.

Those "sketch" pharmacies are usually the same sources, Sun Pharma, Intas, and the same FDA approved oil filled gel capped Accutane generics you get from your local pharmacy.

Not the dry tabs of isotretinoin you get from your drug dealer, a form that's never been approved, for good reasons.

Crying about the sides and suggesting a relapse free outcome isn't possible sounds like you're pretty bitter from an acne scarred youth, and you're belligerent enough you probobly fall into the large group who didn't comply very well with the initial prescribed treatment.

After forty fucking years we have a "little" data to work with.

The TLDR is:

~Sides are predictable, manageable, and reversible, with very rare exceptions. Not the nightmare inducing shit pussy's would have us believe from their memories as a traumatized 13 year old.

~High cumulative dose = Much lower chance of relapse.

-Lower, "standard" dose from decades ago=much higher rate of relapse.

Almost all problematic acne is rooted in shifting hormone levels. Everyone *is* different, but this, more than almost any other medical treatment happens to be better suited to dealing with an AAS induced condition, hormones fluctuating like going through puberty, than almost any other.

There aren't any doctors advising the high dose protocol we're discussing, you're right there.

Except for all these doctors.






I think you meant no one's advocating YOUR protocol, except for some guys at the gym.

The only point you're right about is none of this is applicable to those using extrogenous hormones to reach supraphysiological levels.....except these girls bringing their Testosterone up 15,000% from physiologic:

(where, once again it's clear large cumulative dose=much lower chance of relapse, even as they keep pinning steroids)

 
So these decades of evidence have to do with isotret in conjuction with.. whatever youre putting in your body?

Everyones iso usage on here is very much off label and in no way recommended by doctors. If youre sticking to the medical industry's opinion, you wouldn't be ordering drugs from sketch overseas parmacies.
Also Ive been scribed full 6 month courses of the stuff twice in my twenties, and it always comes back on cycle. I'll stick to the smallest dose of this powerful and side effect -ridden drug while on.
I was taking just 10mg ed while on cycle but read a few posts of guys on here on high dose with minimal sides. So thought I'd go for a cure.

I'm currently on 170mg ed with zero sides. I only actually felt sides on the 10mg. My guess is the body just feels shit on the initial introduction of the compound.

I guess we do what ever works best for us on an individual basis.

There's no real right or wrong, but building a database (forum) of personal experiences is of great value.
 
I was taking just 10mg ed while on cycle but read a few posts of guys on here on high dose with minimal sides. So thought I'd go for a cure.

I'm currently on 170mg ed with zero sides. I only actually felt sides on the 10mg. My guess is the body just feels shit on the initial introduction of the compound.

I guess we do what ever works best for us on an individual basis.

There's no real right or wrong, but building a database (forum) of personal experiences is of great value.

+1 on 10mg ED was worse for me. I thought "I'm never going to be able to handle 30mg".....turned out to be 180mg I couldn't handle lol.
 
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