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golfer34

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I picked up some GW and I've been on it for 15 days at 20mg Ed. From my research and talking to people, I found that it's a very fast acting SARM. The problem is that I haven't noticed anything to this point. At the very least I should have endurance through the roof at this point, right? Anyone have similar issues? Any thoughts?
 
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Never heard of them. Perhaps may be worth trying anther research chemical company such as ironmaglabs or superior peptides.
 
Rocks Off said:
Been hanging out over at Evo or EF have you?
Your good buddy Dylan Gemelli tell you how great sarms are, and especially how g2g sarms1 is?
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Don't really want to throw stones. Just looking for input on my issue with the product and be pointed in the right direction.
 
golfer34 said:
Don't really want to throw stones. Just looking for input on my issue with the product and be pointed in the right direction.
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It's alright, you don't have to tell us the scumbag who told you sarms were legit. We know. Let's put it this way, you've been on a substance for two weeks at the maximum recommended dosage and you haven't felt any of the supposed effects of said substance. Right? So, to point you in the right direction I would say the right direction is the trash bin. You bought a bill of goods and found out the hard way. Lesson learned.
 
golfer34 said:
From my research and talking to people, I found that it's a very fast acting SARM.
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GW-501516 is not a SARM. SARMs act on the androgen receptor, as the name implies. GW does not.

It sounds like your research came from those trying to sell you something. Do not confuse independent inquiry with being marketed to.
 
golfer34 said:
I picked up some GW and I've been on it for 15 days at 20mg Ed. From my research and talking to people, I found that it's a very fast acting SARM. The problem is that I haven't noticed anything to this point. At the very least I should have endurance through the roof at this point, right? Anyone have similar issues? Any thoughts?
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I don't believe in Sarms,I was banned from Evo for it if that helps with your Sarms experience.
I would put that sarms cash into more chicken breast's or real gear.
 
My "research" was mostly with people that have used GW. I wasn't necessarily sold it. I chose to try it based on user rather than the reps that pump it
 
golfer34 said:
So what's the deal with Gemelli? It seems you've had bad interactions with him. What was the issue?
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Listen man, before you go forth buying anything, be it sarms, aas, or pro hormones you need to research...a lot. And then after you research you need to research some more. And then you need to research some more. Cuz right now it seems like you're very uneducated on a lot of things. Firstly being you not understanding who Dylan Gemelli-The Human Vag-is. But that's ok, stick around here, read...a lot, ask questions when you have them, participate in topics when you have something to add. Keep your money in your wallet cuz people like The Human Vag are always looking to take it from you by selling you a bridge in Arizona.
https://thinksteroids.com/community...melli-and-certain-associates-fraud.134360899/
 
You could not pay me to use GW.

The dose at which it was shown to be carcinogenic as fuck in rats is WAY too close to what people are using (once you do the rodent to human dose conversion by dividing by 6.2 such that 1mg/kg rat equals .16mg/kg humam). Something around 45mg/day, IIRC.

Yeah, yeah, rats aren't humans, but there's a reason development was stopped. If you think some YouTube guru/supp shop scammer's opinion is worth more than the scientists who were researching the drug, you're fucked in the head.

At any rate, why bother screwing with SARMs/PPARMs? Drugs like AAS, thyroid hormones, and beta agonists have robust research behind them showing proven results and a well defined safety profile.
 
vgc said:
The dose at which it was shown to be carcinogenic as fuck in rats is WAY too close to what people are using (once you do the rodent to human dose conversion by dividing by 6.2 such that 1mg/kg rat equals .16mg/kg humam). Something around 45mg/day, IIRC.
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What is your citation for the "rodent to human dose conversion"? Is this like the human to dog years conversion? :)
 
Always 2 sides to every issue, this debate has full scientific research behind it, here you go guys: http://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer

Sometimes we forget we are in the steroid world, and there are innate risks in everything we do - especially in our industry. No one discusses the cancer dangers of tren, or liver cancer dangers of anadrol, but we are jumping on 1 particular drug as dangerous because it's a "hear-say" argument.

Oral Steroids and cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15849280
We report two very different cases of adult male bodybuilders who developed hepatocellular adenomas following AAS abuse. The first patient was asymptomatic but had two large liver lesions which were detected by ultrasound studies after routine medical examination. The second patient was admitted to our hospital with acute renal failure and ultrasound (US) studies showed mild hepatomegaly with several very close hyperecogenic nodules in liver, concordant with adenomas at first diagnosis. In both cases the patients have evolved favourably and the tumours have shown a tendency to regress after the withdrawal of AAS.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15495253
"Thirty-six FA cases and 97 non-FA cases with both nonhematologic disorders and acquired aplastic anemia (non-FA AA) were identified. The most common androgens were oxymetholone, methyltestosterone, and danazol. Hepatocellular carcinomas (HCC) were more often associated with oxymetholone and methyltestosterone, while adenomas were associated with danazol. Tumors were reported in six patients who received only parenteral and not oral androgens. FA patients were younger than non-FA patients when androgen use was initiated, and the FA patients developed tumors at younger ages. Non-AA patients were treated with androgens for longer periods of time, compared with FA and non-FA AA patients. All patients on anabolic androgenic steroids are at risk of liver tumors, regardless of underlying diagnosis."
 
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