Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[rpbb]

You see, the way @janoshik lost his credibility to begin with, @mands brought facts backed by proof. It's nice to speculate these things, makes for interesting conversation, but it's just speculation

And we still don't have a fallback for hgh testing. Frankly, I'm sick of this drama that was started when @mands And @Dr JIM started their attempt at testing generic hgh. As far As I'm concerned, everyone acted like over emotional idiots, including myself. And what came of it at the end was no way to get generic hgh tested, which doesn't serve the community at all. So if anyone has any bright ideas regarding that, it would be great. Keeping this war with jano going is childish bullshit

 

[MindlessWork]

And we still don't have a fallback for hgh testing. Frankly, I'm sick of this drama that was started when @mands And @Dr JIM started their attempt at testing generic hgh. As far As I'm concerned, everyone acted like over emotional idiots, including myself. And what came of it at the end was no way to get generic hgh tested, which doesn't serve the community at all. So if anyone has any bright ideas regarding that, it would be great. Keeping this war with jano going is childish bullshit

If Jano has cleaned up his act and has produced verifiable test results that are in line with what is expected then maybe it is indeed time to move on. But with what transpired with Analyzer and the return of Jano then that needs to be addressed as well.

 

[AnTabolic73]

If Jano has cleaned up his act and has produced verifiable test results that are in line with what is expected then maybe it is indeed time to move on. But with what transpired with Analyzer and the return of Jano then that needs to be addressed as well.

Only he can answer that. And no one will believe him either way. His return is correlated with his ban being over. And then someone suggested he make a thread to contain him from posting all over the place. As far as his apology and meso discount, you have to ask him why he did that I dunno.

 

[MindlessWork]

Only he can answer that. And no one will believe him either way. His return is correlated with his ban being over. And then someone suggested he make a thread to contain him from posting all over the place. As far as his apology and meso discount, you have to ask him why he did that I dunno.

Ahh forgot that he was banned...and waiting till it was lifted. That means he was so eager to get business here and after that fiasco with @mands he still doesn't deserve the business of Meso members or even AL.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Ahh forgot that he was banned...and waiting till it was lifted. That means he was so eager to get business here and after that fiasco with @mands he still doesn't deserve the business of Meso members or even AL.

AL? Anabolic lab?

I doubt @Millard even considered him. But imagine that. 3 tests for the price of one from simec essentially.

 

[MindlessWork]

AL? Anabolic lab?

I doubt @Millard even considered him. But imagine that. 3 tests for the price of one from simec essentially.

Yep Anaboliclab. With SIMEC testing, the results are more trustworthy and reliable than from what Jano and his EC buddies been doing. I do remember Millard did make a mention of considering trying Jano's service but held back because of the thing that happened with Mands' testing.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Yep Anaboliclab. With SIMEC testing, the results are more trustworthy and reliable than from what Jano and his EC buddies been doing. I do remember Millard did make a mention of considering trying Jano's service but held back because of the thing that happened with Mands' testing.

I highly doubt Millard ever considered using Jano. The labs AL use have to be accredited, and Jano certainly isn't.

 

[MindlessWork]

I highly doubt Millard ever considered using Jano. The labs AL use have to be accredited, and Jano certainly isn't.

Yes that’s fair enough.

 

[Millard]

Yep Anaboliclab. With SIMEC testing, the results are more trustworthy and reliable than from what Jano and his EC buddies been doing. I do remember Millard did make a mention of considering trying Jano's service but held back because of the thing that happened with Mands' testing.

Not true. AnabolicLab never considered using any unaccredited analytical laboratory. It was never an option.

 

[ickyrica]

Yep Anaboliclab. With SIMEC testing, the results are more trustworthy and reliable than from what Jano and his EC buddies been doing. I do remember Millard did make a mention of considering trying Jano's service but held back because of the thing that happened with Mands' testing.

Please stop inferring that EC has any any type of cozy relationship with Jano. You have absoloutley zero clue about who is who and what is going on behind closed doors. If you have relevant evidence suggesting such a relationship by all means, please inform the group but until that day comes please stop throwing shit against a wall to see what sticks.

Kind of like how you don't like it when everyone says you like to molest children. You dig?

 

[mands]

He's also been very critical of your work and knowledge of hgh testing. If we use your logic, you would have similar reason to smear him, as you say he has to "eliminate" analyzer.

Actually that logic doesn't exist as Jim and I paid out of our pockets for testing and our time. We didn't charge a single dime to any single member here.

mands

 

[mands]

And we still don't have a fallback for hgh testing. Frankly, I'm sick of this drama that was started when @mands And @Dr JIM started their attempt at testing generic hgh. As far As I'm concerned, everyone acted like over emotional idiots, including myself. And what came of it at the end was no way to get generic hgh tested, which doesn't serve the community at all. So if anyone has any bright ideas regarding that, it would be great. Keeping this war with jano going is childish bullshit

I am working on something as we speak and will keep everyone posted.

mands

 

[rpbb]

I am working on something as we speak and will keep everyone posted.

mands

i would just as soon drop all the stuff that happened in that whole situation, and move forward with the hgh testing situation. I'm not very happy with how I and alot of people behaved during that whole endevour, the bottom line is that it damaged the community because we lost sight of the fact that we are here for harm reduction. We lost the ability to have hgh tested, and seem to concentrate on a bunch of petty childish bullshit.

Jano's personality sucks (I'm guilty of that as well, and I'm working on it). But he's doing alot of testing on other boards, and they seem to be ok with it (not to mention, I think alot of people are going off his testing on the blacktops). so if I have the need to have any hgh tested, I'd be more than comfortable using the guy

 

[AnTabolic73]

Actually that logic doesn't exist as Jim and I paid out of our pockets for testing and our time. We didn't charge a single dime to any single member here.

mands

How altruistic.

Regardless, I could see why @Dr JIM would attack jano credibility as jano has been very vocal about dr jim knowledge and credibility.

I am working on something as we speak and will keep everyone posted.

mands

This would be great. All the speculation can stop, and then we can all move forward.

 

[mands]

i would just as soon drop all the stuff that happened in that whole situation, and move forward with the hgh testing situation. I'm not very happy with how I and alot of people behaved during that whole endevour, the bottom line is that it damaged the community because we lost sight of the fact that we are here for harm reduction. We lost the ability to have hgh tested, and seem to concentrate on a bunch of petty childish bullshit.

Jano's personality sucks (I'm guilty of that as well, and I'm working on it). But he's doing alot of testing on other boards, and they seem to be ok with it (not to mention, I think alot of people are going off his testing on the blacktops). so if I have the need to have any hgh tested, I'd be more than comfortable using the guy

There are more than a few guys here that feel as you do. And I've never said he doesn't know what he's doing. He's actually very knowledgeable. It's the fact a person like him will cut corners and lie(obviously) when his back is to the wall. Do you really want someone like that a part of what we are trying to do here?

Would you feel the same way and be saying you were "comfortable" using him if he had pulled this fiasco with you personally?

mands

 

[janoshik]

There are more than a few guys here that feel as you do. And I've never said he doesn't know what he's doing. He's actually very knowledgeable. It's the fact a person like him will cut corners and lie(obviously) when his back is to the wall. Do you really want someone like that a part of what we are trying to do here?

Would you feel the same way and be saying you were "comfortable" using him if he had pulled this fiasco with you personally?

mands

We've taken steps to prevent that from ever happening again over a year ago, Sir.

Pictures of every sample received are provided to the customers and all the raw data are stored, backed up and provided upon request.

We think we are more open about the procedures we use than any other analytical laboratory we've encountered and we have demonstrated the fact that we use legitimate pharmacopoeia issued standards, not improvisation during out work.

 

[rpbb]

There are more than a few guys here that feel as you do. And I've never said he doesn't know what he's doing. He's actually very knowledgeable. It's the fact a person like him will cut corners and lie(obviously) when his back is to the wall. Do you really want someone like that a part of what we are trying to do here?

Would you feel the same way and be saying you were "comfortable" using him if he had pulled this fiasco with you personally?

mands

mands, I understand completely why you feel the way you do, and I have tremendous respect and thanks for what you have done for the community. And I'm not sticking up for the guy, he's going to have to do that for himself. But for the time being, I'm trying to find a good source for generic hgh, and for the time being, until something better comes along, I will use his testing as one (not all) of the data points when I make a buying decision

 

[Sdryx]

We've taken steps to prevent that from ever happening again over a year ago, Sir.

Wow, the lying conman says he’s “taken steps” to make it all better.

I feel at ease now knowing that a PROVEN liar made me a promise. NOT!

 

[mands]

How altruistic.

Regardless, I could see why @Dr JIM would attack jano credibility as jano has been very vocal about dr jim knowledge and credibility.



This would be great. All the speculation can stop, and then we can all move forward.

The fact of the matter is this... All else aside he can't be trusted.

Some things that you DO NOT know is that I had a few very well respected members here and at PM that were convinced his elaborate story was true.

@Buck1973 @muscle96ss just to name a couple. These guys talked to me daily about him and ensured me how great he was and how I should believe him. I almost did for a while and then we actually had several civil conversations. But, I knew something wasn't right.

Hell I almost met up with Buck in his hometown to train and talk about it. But, time didn't permit. That's how big this thing was to me.

Since then muscles has apologized to me and that takes a great man to do so when they actually mean it. Thank you big guy.

As far others that tried to convince me, I will be waiting for their apology.

mands, I understand completely why you feel the way you do, and I have tremendous respect and thanks for what you have done for the community. And I'm not sticking up for the guy, he's going to have to do that for himself. But for the time being, I'm trying to find a good source for generic hgh, and for the time being, until something better comes along, I will use his testing as one (not all) of the data points when I make a buying decision

I respect you as well bud.

The only thing that I have a problem with is that you are very respected and when you say you are going to use his testing it muddies the waters in my opinion.

We can agree to disagree here and no hard feelings my way.

mands

 

[janoshik]

Wow, the lying conman says he’s “taken steps” to make it all better.

I feel at ease now knowing that a PROVEN liar made me a promise. NOT!

We don't see how pictures of the sample and raw data for blind samples are not objective data that can be independently verified by our customers, Sir.