Josh Bridgman arrested

[ivandragovich]

And with MILLIONS of users, and thousands of seizures a year, that puts the risk for users in some context.

Possession of less than 28 grams of steroids is a Class a misdemeanor, not a felony. In addition, for a first offender, the law requires PROBATION for the felony of delivering 28g or less, which means the penalty for misdemeanor if possession wound be even less.

And indeed it is, If not dismissed or diverted by agreeing to treatment, in the overwhelming majority of cases that charge is dealt with by giving deferred adjudication, and after keeping your nose clean, it's dismissed and no criminal conviction is recorded.


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I was just quoting what Josh was saying in the podcast brother. Yes you would be correct.

 

[Ghoul]

I was just quoting what Josh was saying in the podcast brother. Yes you would be correct.

It's all good. Obviously the trooper was an asshole, Josh was an idiot, and this will all be dispensed with by a fine I'm certain.

You can watch Texas felony court proceedings on Judge Stephanie Boyd's youtube channel, where first offenders who are charged with dealing in much higher quantities of hard drugs, who are first offenders, routinely get deferred adjudication, so you know this is a nothing burger by comparison.

 

[songsofpyramids]

Judge Stephanie Boyd's youtube channel

I love that shit so much. She’s great to watch.

 

[Ghoul]

I love that shit so much. She’s great to watch.

Amazing how many idiots throw away the gift of deferred adjudication by committing some new serious crime shortly after being let go.

"Do you understand you can be sentenced up to 99 years if you commit a new offense while on deferred adjudication for this felony?".

"Yes your honor"

Back 2 months later for armed robbery.

 

[bnp2]

In Texas, possession of less than 28 grams of steroids is a Class a misdemeanor, not a felony. In addition, for a first offender, the law requires PROBATION for the felony of delivering 28g or less, which means the penalty for misdemeanor if possession is presumed less.

And indeed it is, If not dismissed or diverted before it ever gets to court by agreeing to conditions, in the overwhelming majority of cases that charge is dealt with by giving deferred adjudication, and after keeping your nose clean for a period of time, it's dismissed and no criminal conviction is recorded.


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How do they even measure grams if it's suspended in a glass vial? Probably weigh the vial too? I know i got caught with thc in a jar and they weighed the whole freaking jar and called it X amount. Way more than what it actually was lol.

 

[malfeasance]

I was just quoting what Josh was saying in the podcast brother. Yes you would be correct.

I gave the podcast in question a listen. He insists that it was a felony charge and that he has been deported twice because of it.

I felt a little sorry for the guy listening to it (he had gone through some other issues around the same time).

Plus they would not accept anything but cash from him, no 10% to a bonding company, so he had to cough up $25k. When he told them he had the $25k, they basically laughed at him and said whatever, and through him back in the cell to be ignored for another four hours.

His legal fee to his attorney, who would have surely told him if the charge was a misdemeanor, was also $25k, which sounds more like a felony retainer than a misdemeanor retainer.

He said that deportations have cost him another $2500.

 

[malfeasance]

In Texas, possession of less than 28 grams of steroids is a Class a misdemeanor, not a felony. In addition, for a first offender, the law requires PROBATION for the felony of delivering 28g or less, which means the penalty for misdemeanor if possession is presumed less.

And indeed it is, If not dismissed or diverted before it ever gets to court by agreeing to conditions, in the overwhelming majority of cases that charge is dealt with by giving deferred adjudication, and after keeping your nose clean for a period of time, it's dismissed and no criminal conviction is recorded.


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He was not charged with a misdemeanor. Your post is missing context and is therefore meaningless.

What you have written is sort of true, but you have not given enough information in your post.

I am guessing that you do not know more information, or you would have included it so that your post would not be so misleading. Surely you are aware that most posters here think a vial of testosterone is 250mg/ml and so 2500 mg total, which is 2.5 grams, well under 28 grams, right? You are aware that this is how they would understand your post? Maybe this is how you understood the law in Texas after using Google and looking at some law firm's web site.

The normal understanding here about steroid dosages in mg and grams is not the way that they measure the weight of drugs in Texas for charges and penalties.

They literally weigh it.

28 grams brings it under an ounce of weight (28 grams was not chosen at random, 28.3495 is an ounce).

They cannot weigh the testosterone and ester. They weigh all of it, including adulterants and pollutants. That is written right into the statute.

So, yes, possession of less than an ounce is a misdemeanor, but that is not 2800 mg of steroid dosage. It is literally the weight of your stash of steroids on a scale. It does not take much to get your testosterone cypionate and tren and so on over one ounce on a scale.

He was charged with a felony, not a misdemeanor.

No, he is not headed to hard time in prison, but this has been traumatizing for him and has many repercussions in his life. Give his very short podcast on the subject a sympathetic listen.

Yeah, he was stupid to admit his crime to the cop, but, like I said, it is hard not to feel sorry for him once you listen to the whole story.

Try to be more objective about things and stop trying to minimize everything related to steroids and the law. Even a glance at the statute you are so confidently describing would have revealed the full truth to you.

 

[malfeasance]

Just to be 100% clear, from the definitions in Texas law:

"Adulterant or dilutant" means any material that increases the bulk or quantity of a controlled substance, regardless of its effect on the chemical activity of the controlled substance.

 

[malfeasance]

Yeah, grapeseed oil, BA, BB . . . fillers in capsules, etc. Weigh it all.

It would be hard to imagine that any arrest in Texas for steroids would actually be for a misdemeanor once you read the statute.

 

[malfeasance]

Sec. 481.117. OFFENSE: POSSESSION OF SUBSTANCE IN PENALTY GROUP 3.

(a) Except as authorized by this chapter, a person commits an offense if the person knowingly or intentionally possesses a controlled substance listed in Penalty Group 3, unless the person obtains the substance directly from or under a valid prescription or order of a practitioner acting in the course of professional practice.

(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is a Class A misdemeanor if the amount of the controlled substance possessed is, by aggregate weight, including adulterants or dilutants, less than 28 grams.

(c) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the third degree if the amount of the controlled substance possessed is, by aggregate weight, including adulterants or dilutants, 28 grams or more but less than 200 grams.

(d) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the second degree, if the amount of the controlled substance possessed is, by aggregate weight, including adulterants or dilutants, 200 grams or more but less than 400 grams.

(e) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the first degree punishable by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for life or for a term of not more than 99 years or less than five years, and a fine not to exceed $50,000, if the amount of the controlled substance possessed is, by aggregate weight, including adulterants or dilutants, 400 grams or more.

 

[malfeasance]

That 5-99 years, by the way, subsection (e) is not even one pound for those who do not speak metric. And no distribution, just possession.

I have not looked at all the first offender sort of stuff available in Texas for 400 grams or more of weight, and I am not going to so so, but it would be difficult to argue that the potential punishment available is not serious, and any given steroid user may not be eligible for first offender or other conditional sentencing for any myriad of reasons, including criminal history or other crimes that brought the steroid possession to light.

 

[malfeasance]

I listened to the podcast prior to looking at the statute, so I might be wrong, but I think he said he was charged under subsection (d), 200-400 grams, felony of the second degree.

This is the same treatment as delivery of 5-50 pounds of marijuana (or marihuana, as Texas calls it).

It is also the same level of felony as delivering a controlled substance to a child. Yeah, seriously, see below:

Sec. 481.122. OFFENSE: DELIVERY OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE OR MARIHUANA TO CHILD.

(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly delivers a controlled substance listed in Penalty Group 1, 1-A, 1-B, 2, or 3 or knowingly delivers marihuana and the person delivers the controlled substance or marihuana to a person:

(1) who is a child;

(2) who is enrolled in a public or private primary or secondary school; or

(3) who the actor knows or believes intends to deliver the controlled substance or marihuana to a person described by Subdivision (1) or (2).

(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that:

(1) the actor was a child when the offense was committed; or

(2) the actor:

(A) was younger than 21 years of age when the offense was committed;

(B) delivered only marihuana in an amount equal to or less than one-fourth ounce; and

(C) did not receive remuneration for the delivery.

(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree.

(d) In this section, "child" means a person younger than 18 years of age.

(e) If conduct that is an offense under this section is also an offense under another section of this chapter, the actor may be prosecuted under either section or both.

 

[malfeasance]

Hopefully he gets some sort of conditional discharge slap on the wrist.

BUT

He has already had quite a bit of disruption and consequences in his life. He also describes it as a traumatic experience so far, and I believe him.

 

[TurboJet]

Y'all see that woman that got busted selling fake/"counterfeit" semaglutide on the news? Some of the local compounders were buying from her too...

 

[TurboJet]

Here's a link to the article.
Tn Arrest

Tennessee woman accused of selling fake weight loss drugs as counterfeit concerns grow

The woman was accused of selling counterfeit versions of popular weight loss drugs, including Ozempic and Wegovy. Experts say fakes have exploded in the U.S.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[malfeasance]

Y'all see that woman that got busted selling fake/"counterfeit" semaglutide on the news? Some of the local compounders were buying from her too...

Here's a link to the article.
Tn Arrest

Tennessee woman accused of selling fake weight loss drugs as counterfeit concerns grow

The woman was accused of selling counterfeit versions of popular weight loss drugs, including Ozempic and Wegovy. Experts say fakes have exploded in the U.S.

www.nbcnews.com

There was a thread here somewhere about that.

She was dealing, though.

Bridgman is just a possession case.

 

[lamehack]

listened to part of the podcast, guy has clearly lowish IQ. i mean he comes or lives in Dubai(don't recall details) where he understands that weed possession(in UAE) = beheading, but steroids legal. ok - so this should ring a bell that each country has different laws. also going 20mph over is getting pulled over territory in essentially every fucking country in the world. you maybe go over 10mph over in usa on a good day. UK also has fucking mph this must ring a bell.
curious how this will end, but my guess is the days driving with weed and gear in the usa are over i would imagine.
also not sure he had more then 28g of gear, unless they weigh the glass/vial as well? he mentioned 6d of gear left, and even with bac water this should not hit it. 28g of juice is prob around 2.5-3 vials with no glass. unless they weighted the real weed as well and added it.
i dont know but maybe that tren does eat away brain cells?